Ruling Special Steel Uugh!

[Rayquaza 187]

ok me and a friend got into a huge dispute on how special steel energies work...he insist that if his active pokemon with the S.steel energy does recoil damage to itself its reduced by the amount of S.steel energies attached to his pokemon?The S.energy says done by attacks,...wouldnt the recoil damage be considered an effect not a attack?i dont know i think hes wrong can anyone help???(if a pokemon has S.steel energy and is on the bench is it reduced as well?)

 

[-Just me-]

ok me and a friend got into a huge dispute on how special steel energies work...he insist that if his active pokemon with the S.steel energy does recoil damage to itself its reduced by the amount of S.steel energies attached to his pokemon?
Yes
The S.energy says done by attacks,...wouldnt the recoil damage be considered an effect not a attack?
An effect would be to put damage counters(that is not reduced), straight damage IS reduced
I don't know I think hes wrong can anyone help??
(if a pokemon has S.steel energy and is on the bench is it reduced as well?)Yes, Metal energy also works in benched pokemon

Answers in bold.

 

[Chairman Kaga]

ok me and a friend got into a huge dispute on how special steel energies work...he insist that if his active pokemon with the S.steel energy does recoil damage to itself its reduced by the amount of S.steel energies attached to his pokemon?

Your friend is right.

The S.energy says done by attacks,...wouldnt the recoil damage be considered an effect not a attack?

No. Most of the recoil attacks say "[Pokemon] does [X] damage to itself." If it says it "does damage", then it's damage, not an effect.

Since Metal Energy doesn't state that only damage from your opponent's attacks is reduced, it reduces any damage it takes, including damage it does to itself.

(if a pokemon has S.steel energy and is on the bench is it reduced as well?)

Yes. Metal Energy doesn't say the Pokemon has to be active to get the effect.

 

[George2FRESH]

Another thing..

Sneasel's (DP) attack "Feint Attack" says it's not affected by weakness resistance, or any other effects on the defending pokemon. So does this mean it's NOT affect by Special Metal energy?

Reason I ask is because at my BR, my opponent had a Metagross Ex on his bench w/ 2 Spec. Metal Energies on it.

I brought out Sneasel and used Feint Attack on it, but he and everyone else there said it reduced it by 20 meaning it did nothing. Were they wrong? If they were, that would have changed the whole outcome of the match.

 

[Chairman Kaga]

Sorry to inform you, but you got screwed.

Metal Energy creates a continuous effect on the Pokemon it's attached to. Feint Attack (and anything similar, like Swift) would ignore it.

Q. If I use the Swift attack and the opponent has a Metal Energy attached to the defending Pokémon, does the Metal Energy reduce the amount of damage or do the conditions of the Swift attack override the Metal Energy effect?
A. Swift will override the Metal energy card effect [on the opponent]. (Jan 18, 2001 WotC Chat, Q68b; Jan 25, 2001 WotC Chat, Q18)

 

[George2FRESH]

SEE ! wow! Funny thing, Metagross Ex had 20 hp left and I had 2 prize cards left. That would have been my game.

So many people in my area think that just because I was new at the BR that I'm new at the game. About 9 of them said it reduced it.

Some of them tried to play Battle Frontier on Darkrai, or Scramble when I had more prize cards. My opponent even used Telepass when he had an active out with Cess. Crystal.

Cheaters, jees. Thanks man for your help.