Stage 1 and 2 EX's?

Mora

Mora

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When, if at all, will we see evolving EX's? I'm sure by now, everyone's noticed that with the focus being on Basic Pokémon, all of the current EX's are Basics. In the classic ex sets, there was a combination of Basic and Evolution ex's, so one would think that at some point, we might get a few. On the other hand, the more recent LEGEND mechanic used only Basic Pokémon. Arguably, this is because most, if not all, "legendary" Pokémon are Basics; however, the EX's seem to be following suite with this theme; all EX's at this point are "legendries" and therefore are Basics. At this rate, odds are slim we'll see any EX's that require evolution, but then again, how could Pokémon resist not changing up the game a little.

Also, I'd like to do a little speculation here. If EX's have more HP than non, and Stage 2's have more HP than Basics, will Stage 2 EX's have more HP than Basic EX's? Will they be even more overpowered? How will the "Evolves from" evocon fit onto a full artwork Stage 2 EX? If they make Stage 2 EX's, will they even be playable in this format dominated by quick attackers that are played directly from the hand with little to no set up required? Thoughts?
 
I don't think this will ever happen. I can't even imagine it. If there were stage two EX's, I would guess they would have 220ish hp, though.
 
Well,now cards have topped the 290 mark with Kyurem but with a tool,so you never know in the future:p
 
I really do not think there will be any evolved EXs. But if there were, I would guess they wouldn't have more than 200 hp or else they would possibly just be so overpowered.
 
^Right there. They'd be incredibly overpowered, (seeing as the Basics are right now), and we still have plenty of Legendaries to go through. I wish they made the Basic EXs a little weaker so we had room for Stage 2 EXs, but unfortunately it is not the case right now.
 
http://www.pokemontradingpost.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PowerKeepers-97

This is a card I have and play in my deck!!! Awesome card!! And it's obviously a stage two!!
 
Mora said:
all of the current EX's are Basics. In the classic ex sets, there was a combination of Basic and Evolution ex's
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Generally, it's a good idea to read the OP before posting :p
 
stevenw131 said:
http://www.pokemontradingpost.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PowerKeepers-97

This is a card I have and play in my deck!!! Awesome card!! And it's obviously a stage two!!
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This card is outdated and not in the current format.
 
stevenw131 said:
http://www.pokemontradingpost.com/proddetail.asp?prod=PowerKeepers-97

This is a card I have and play in my deck!!! Awesome card!! And it's obviously a stage two!!
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Out of format, and besides, the old ex cards weren't that great.
 
Mora said:
They were good for their format, weren't they?
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The majority of the ex cards were bad. Look at all of them, then compare all of them with the cards in that format.
 
o0Flint0o said:
Out of format, and besides, the old ex cards weren't that great.
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Some of them were, some of them weren't.

The ones in the Ruby/Sapphire set were notoriously bad.

But you can't say that Blastoise FRLG, Steelix UF, Medicham EM, Manectric DX, Espeon UF, Flareon DS, Banette LM, Flygon LM, and Delcatty CG were bad. Not at all while many of them were featured in very high tier decks in their heyday (not to mention many of them are Stage 1s/Stage 2s!). Please don't say things that are false.

dmaster out.
 
o0Flint0o said:
The majority of the ex cards were bad. Look at all of them, then compare all of them with the cards in that format.
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The majority of cards are bad. Period. >70% of any given set is just filler, so your statement is pretty much invalidated. Besides, there were some pretty game breaking ex's back in the day.
 
i think it wouldnt matter to the collectors out there but for players that would mess a lot of things up....
 
pokemonjoe said:
The majority of cards are bad. Period. >70% of any given set is just filler, so your statement is pretty much invalidated.
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Don't be so sure. Some cards take time for people to find an excellent strategy for them, or some cards in one set find their calling along with cards from a future set. You have to consider the possibilities.
 
PumpedAaron said:
Don't be so sure. Some cards take time for people to find an excellent strategy for them, or some cards in one set find their calling along with cards from a future set. You have to consider the possibilities.
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There is no amount of time that can find an excellent strategy in this card: http://pokebeach.com/scans/dark-explorers/24-slowbro.jpg, or this card: http://pokebeach.com/scans/dragons-exalted/103-slaking.jpg. Granted, those are somewhat of gimmick cards, but just look at these filler cards: http://pokebeach.com/scans/dragons-exalted/107-bibarel.jpg, http://pokebeach.com/scans/dragons-exalted/112-braviary.jpg, or most other cards in any set. Or, let's look at a set on a whole. I looked at the Emerging powers scans, and I found less than 10 cards I would consider playing in a deck. You're welcome to try and think of an excellent strategy using Watchog or Cinccino, just don't expect to be taken seriously. You can deny it all you want, but Pokemon plans it this way. By lowering the amount of useful cards in a given set, there is a lower chance of us pulling what we want, meaning we buy more packs, meaning Pokemon gets more money. It's a fairly simple marketing technique.
EDIT: Just realized my links aren't working. The cards were Slowbro DE, Slaking DE, Bibarel DRX, and Braviary DRX. (in order)
 
pokemonjoe said:
There is no amount of time that can find an excellent strategy in this card: http://pokebeach.com/scans/dark-explorers/24-slowbro.jpg, or this card: http://pokebeach.com/scans/dragons-exalted/103-slaking.jpg. Granted, those are somewhat of gimmick cards, but just look at these filler cards: http://pokebeach.com/scans/dragons-exalted/107-bibarel.jpg, http://pokebeach.com/scans/dragons-exalted/112-braviary.jpg, or most other cards in any set. Or, let's look at a set on a whole. I looked at the Emerging powers scans, and I found less than 10 cards I would consider playing in a deck. You're welcome to try and think of an excellent strategy using Watchog or Cinccino, just don't expect to be taken seriously. You can deny it all you want, but Pokemon plans it this way. By lowering the amount of useful cards in a given set, there is a lower chance of us pulling what we want, meaning we buy more packs, meaning Pokemon gets more money. It's a fairly simple marketing technique.
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(Doods, we're going a little off topic, aren't we? I'm pretty sure that's the strategy of every TCG; to make more money doing that.)
 
o0Flint0o said:
The majority of the ex cards were bad. Look at all of them, then compare all of them with the cards in that format.
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Edit: Sorry, misread that.

I said they were good for their format, not ours.
 
o0Flint0o said:
(Doods, we're going a little off topic, aren't we? I'm pretty sure that's the strategy of every TCG; to make more money doing that.)
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Exactly my point. Pokemon designs it so most of the cards are bad, so we buy more packs.
OP: I honestly don't think they will make stage 1 or 2 EX's. You never know, but it's unlikely.
 
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