Substitute N for Caitlin?

DarkraiGuy

DarkraiGuy

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So ima just start with the reason concerning this thread being made,
Next saturday my league is having a tournament, I have 1 N and 3 proxy N's. Yes easy solution buy N so i ordered 3 (the last in stock) off of toy wiz http://www.toywiz.com on sunday through pay pal and got the pay pal email noting the transaction. I am yet to hear back from toy wiz (today being tuesday) and am fine waiting another day to hear back saying my order has been processed and shipped.. I natuturally forsee the worst outcome being complications arise and i am unable to get them in time (the low quantity of N cards around) and if that is the outcome here is the question of this thread.

Would Caitlin be the best substitute for N in a Darkrai Hydragion deck? In the case where running 4 N's is not available and it is still necessary to have 3 more supporters in place of those 3 missing N cards for this upcoming tournament? Thank you
 
If you already run max Juniper maybe add one Caitlin and a couple Colress. Caitlin's ok-ish in my opinion but I think Colress is usually pretty good.
 
I don't really like this supporter, but in my opinion Hugh is the closest card to N. Like N you can make the opponent's hand go down to 5 after a turn from tropical beaching or juniper-ing(?).
If I were to choose a supporter to choose for the 3 empty spots I would choose Colress. Your bench is usually clogged with a damaged darkrai, 2 hydreigon, a sableye, and a Virizion EX...so Colress would make the most sense as the supporter of choice.
 
Elbow said:
I don't really like this supporter, but in my opinion Hugh is the closest card to N. Like N you can make the opponent's hand go down to 5 after a turn from tropical beaching or juniper-ing(?).
If I were to choose a supporter to choose for the 3 empty spots I would choose Colress. Your bench is usually clogged with a damaged darkrai, 2 hydreigon, a sableye, and a Virizion EX...so Colress would make the most sense as the supporter of choice.
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yeah colress in a good call, i forgot about him because i don't have any :( time to make some trades at league! thanks:p also what is Virizion EX doing as a tech? I play Mewtwo and Giratina EX
 
DarkraiGuy said:
Elbow said:
I don't really like this supporter, but in my opinion Hugh is the closest card to N. Like N you can make the opponent's hand go down to 5 after a turn from tropical beaching or juniper-ing(?).
If I were to choose a supporter to choose for the 3 empty spots I would choose Colress. Your bench is usually clogged with a damaged darkrai, 2 hydreigon, a sableye, and a Virizion EX...so Colress would make the most sense as the supporter of choice.
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yeah colress in a good call, i forgot about him because i don't have any :( time to make some trades at league! thanks:p also what is Virizion EX doing as a tech? I play Mewtwo and Giratina EX
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As long as you run max blend you can move the blend and with Virizion's ability your pokemon are immune to special conditions.
 
Generally in Darkrai/Heidreigon people replace 4 of the darkness energy with blend FPGD and add in 1/2 Virizion EX because then the darkrai's and Heidreigon don't get Laser-Banked for the KO, like in TDK
 
Elbow said:
Generally in Darkrai/Heidreigon people replace 4 of the darkness energy with blend FPGD and add in 1/2 Virizion EX because then the darkrai's and Heidreigon don't get Laser-Banked for the KO, like in TDK
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Thats a good tech.. Wish i did trade mine 2 weeks ago:( ill check troll&toad for it. Can i use the attack to search for 2 energy? being the blend energy or does it have to basic grass?
 
DarkraiGuy said:
Elbow said:
Generally in Darkrai/Heidreigon people replace 4 of the darkness energy with blend FPGD and add in 1/2 Virizion EX because then the darkrai's and Heidreigon don't get Laser-Banked for the KO, like in TDK
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Thats a good tech.. Wish i did trade mine 2 weeks ago:( ill check troll&toad for it. Can i use the attack to search for 2 energy? being the blend energy or does it have to basic grass?
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Any grass works, like blend and prism energies. Its mainly a bench-sitter and might only attack to get 2 other blend energies out on the field and moving around, but its none the less an excellent tech.
 
Elbow said:
DarkraiGuy said:
Thats a good tech.. Wish i did trade mine 2 weeks ago:( ill check troll&toad for it. Can i use the attack to search for 2 energy? being the blend energy or does it have to basic grass?
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Any grass works, like blend and prism energies. Its mainly a bench-sitter and might only attack to get 2 other blend energies out on the field and moving around, but its none the less an excellent tech.
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Virizion-EX can't get Blend or Prism energy out of your deck.
 
Pokewiz1999 said:
Elbow said:
Any grass works, like blend and prism energies. Its mainly a bench-sitter and might only attack to get 2 other blend energies out on the field and moving around, but its none the less an excellent tech.
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Virizion-EX can't get Blend or Prism energy out of your deck.
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Ohh i see. Well that will still help when someone decides to Put Darkrai to sleep or Paralyze him -_- as i always say, Darkrai is the sleep pokemon, when he goes to sleep he is in his happy place and feels no obligation to wake up for me.
Virizion would be a great tech! Not sure if i wanna buy $20 for it just yet. I'll see how i do next Saturday without him. Considering i just spent $70 on Mew cards for my Mew collection
 
You could also run Keldeo instead of Virizion because with Darkrai (and Hydreigon) you can Rush In if your active has a status condition, putting it on the bench and curing it, then retreat Keldeo for free with a Darkness Energy on it back to whatever you want.

Also, never substitute N for Caitlin. N is a hand refresh or disruption card. Caitlin does neither of those; in fact, Caitlin does almost nothing at all, giving you hand disadvantage, and less search power than Skyla or, almost always, Juniper.
 
Dark Void said:
You could also run Keldeo instead of Virizion because with Darkrai (and Hydreigon) you can Rush In if your active has a status condition, putting it on the bench and curing it, then retreat Keldeo for free with a Darkness Energy on it back to whatever you want.
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But you would still take 10-30 damage from poison which, even though it's a little damage, can be game changing.
 
Wait... you ordered Ns from toywiz? They have it on the site for $7! You do know that on ebay you can get 3 Ns for $7 (or less) right?

As for the discussion, it's not a terrible substitute give our lack of draw supporters.. do you run Bicycle?
 
Dark Void said:
Also, never substitute N for Caitlin. N is a hand refresh or disruption card. Caitlin does neither of those; in fact, Caitlin does almost nothing at all, giving you hand disadvantage, and less search power than Skyla or, almost always, Juniper.
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N came in the mail all good there. It was an emergency swap

DarkPkmnTrainer said:
Wait... you ordered Ns from toywiz? They have it on the site for $7! You do know that on ebay you can get 3 Ns for $7 (or less) right?

As for the discussion, it's not a terrible substitute give our lack of draw supporters.. do you run Bicycle?
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Yeah :( too late now haha but i will be on ebay more now.. I have bad history with pokemon and ebay but to get some collector cards i will have to go there. Toywiz has always been there for me so i will support them still. But yeah it was a horrible deal on N

Pokewiz1999 said:
Dark Void said:
You could also run Keldeo instead of Virizion because with Darkrai (and Hydreigon) you can Rush In if your active has a status condition, putting it on the bench and curing it, then retreat Keldeo for free with a Darkness Energy on it back to whatever you want.
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But you would still take 10-30 damage from poison which, even though it's a little damage, can be game changing.
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Whichever I can get come game day i will play, SHould i switch out GiratinaEX for the Ke
ldeo or Virizion?
 
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