One of my friend's insisted that the video game had more strategy to it... I beg to differ. What's your opinion on the subject?
TCG - More strategy involved than the games?
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As both a card and game player, I would have to say that both do require alot of strategy to be awesome at.
I would have to say that you really can't compare the two in terms of strategy. The games require prediction and the element of surprise. The TCG requires you to know your opponent's deck and how a certain card works with another.
I would have to say that you really can't compare the two in terms of strategy. The games require prediction and the element of surprise. The TCG requires you to know your opponent's deck and how a certain card works with another.
I have played both since their release, and I would agree with your friend. In my opinion, the games involve more strategy, mostly because of the vast number of Pokemon types and moves in the game. However, the trading card game also has an immense depth, and should not be underestimated in terms of strategy.
I would say like everyone else, that both are very based on strategy. I play the card game more than the actual game, but I know the game has a lot to it with EV training the perfect natures and whatnot. Both can be looked at equally in those terms.
They are both very different. TCG requires you knowing how to play you deck, how to play against your opponent's deck, and how to read your opponent's facial expressions. The video games makes you need to know how to predict your opponent's moves, and stuff like that. The difference is that in the TCG, there are millions of different moves you are going to need to make because of the millions of different senarios. The video games have fewer possible senarios.
tcg is alot harder.
z-man said:
lol I don't really know if the thats is part of it. xD
...the video games have more strategy...
...the TCG is more along the lines of whoever has the most money to spend on it wins...
...but if everyone had access to the same cardpool in the TCG like the games do with available pokemon... both would have about the same amount of startegy involved...
...the TCG is more along the lines of whoever has the most money to spend on it wins...
...but if everyone had access to the same cardpool in the TCG like the games do with available pokemon... both would have about the same amount of startegy involved...
Hmmm. I didn't mean the actual playing of the TCG. The playing of it has very little skill whatsoever, I was more referring to deck strategy and set-up. Ask somebody who's never played TCG before, and make them do a serviceable deck. It won't happen. With the video games, it's kind of hard to go wrong. There's very many ways you can improve yourself, but you can't go TOO wrong. And a lot of the strength of your battalion comes from getting up levels! 
That said, you have to be quite knowledgeable in the games, I guess.
That said, you have to be quite knowledgeable in the games, I guess.That's why a $10 deck won worlds in a season where there were $300 decks running around all over, huh?burnpsy said:
Even though there aren't as many decks as teams in the video games, there are more problems that you could have to work around in the tcg. Leveling up, and EVing and team building isn't that hard. Deck building... there are so many engines and stuff to work with, that you'll really have to start thinking. Unlike in the video games, you can't just throw any-old cards into a TCG deck. You have to have combos, and good engines. In the Video Games, you can pull together any 6 pokemon into a team, and still be able to win. In game, tcg is much harder.
z-man said:That's why a $10 deck won worlds in a season where there were $300 decks running around all over, huh?burnpsy said:
Leveling up, and EVing and team building isn't that hard. Deck building... there are so many engines and stuff to work with, that you'll really have to start thinking. Unlike in the video games, you can't just throw any-old cards into a TCG deck. You have to have combos, and good engines. In the Video Games, you can pull together any 6 pokemon into a team, and still be able to win. In game, tcg is much harder.
...in the TCG, there's also the possibility of winning with a random deck, but just like the games, everyone gets owned if they face a seasoned player...
...oh and for the bolded parts... the games need combos or you just lose... and the TCG still allows you to win with random pokemon, I don't see anything against that in the rules ^_^
...and to the first paragraph: "...for every rule there's an exception."-Gym Leader Wattson, Pokemon Anime...
I agreed what Z said.
I believe that TCG is much more harder than you thought. Find a counter, deck engine, and getting the card for deck is tough. TCG requires alot of skill, strategy, and luck to win.
I believe that TCG is much more harder than you thought. Find a counter, deck engine, and getting the card for deck is tough. TCG requires alot of skill, strategy, and luck to win.
Hmm, not rly. I've seen a starter deck beat the most expensive deck. Also Lunasol beats LBS in worlds. $10 deck beat $200 or more (LBS).burnpsy said:
I believe that's not true. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.burnpsy said:
What random pokemon? A friend brought that up, magikarp deck. Wanna know the combos, magikarp and 59 water energies, thats awesome. No, TCG is much more harder than that. >_>burnpsy said:
Okay, cool. Stop using periods in beginning please, its annoying.burnpsy said:
Games can be hard but not harder than TCG.burnpsy said:
Be careful cause I really like to poke back.
Elite_Riku said:
...yeah, same here... but still... most of your responses were the exact same thing... you claim it's hard to counter everything in the TCG, but the games have just as much of a problem countering everything...
...stop fooling yourselves, there's the exact same amount of strategy in both...
...let's stop talking about difficulty...
burnpsy said:
Okay, your post is pointless. My post above you explains everything. Yet, I didnt say its hard to counter everything. >_>
Stop fooling myself? I'm expressing my thoughts and you can stop beginning irritating.
Depends on how deep you get in strategy. for real competitive play, both strategies are amazingly complex. but they are different. due that, you cant compare the difficulty level between both. A good strategist that plays awsome tcg but doesnt know well the game mechanichs of video game, would horribly loose and viceversa. But, if you consider the breeding part, EV, HV, items, attacks choosing, the number of types (almost twice than tcg), damage calculations, and a long etc., the game has a lot more variables to take care than the tcg.
