TCG Theorymon Exercises - Week 12

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The Yoshi

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Hey everyone. After seeing the VG Theorymon exercises done by [member]Bippa[/member], I decided it would be interesting to see views of various members of how a certain aspect of the TCG can be improved, such as a card or a part of the TCG in general.

Rules:

1) Say what's on your mind, but don't troll. People can tell that advice is legit, even if they don't agree with it.

2) Say as much as you want! There's no limit on how many aspects you would like to see changed, and that shouldn't hold you back from providing multiple pieces of advice.

3) If you disagree with a member, don't flame or I will get [mod]Glaceon[/mod] in here and Ice Beam you all.

So here's the card we'll be working on.

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Make your changes assuming you could take the card, use Wite-Out on anything you wanted, and change it. Begin!
 
If Floral Scent worked for all cards instead of just Pokemon, there is one deck that would really love this card.
 
Poison Powder would be more usable if it only required 1 grass and a DCE. With that, it could fit with cards that do more if the defending Pokemon is affected by a Special Condition. You could then use the ability to search out said Pokemon if necessary, and use a Switch. If alex's edit was applied also, it could just search out its own Switch.
 
Poison Powder could've added in a Burn condition and upped the damage to 90.
 
Yes, Poison powder could have added Burn. Poison Burn Powder. :p

Pretty nice HP. BAD BAD BAD retreat. Drop one colorless on that and on the attack and raise the attack to 80. Makes it utterly somewhat playable. Chain Venasaur ftw.
 
The only deck this could ever work with is Accelgor/Gothitelle w/Mew EX. Even in that it is absolutely terrible.
 
Fixing his attack doesn't help, he's a bench sitter. Even if it burned or did 80 base damage, it wouldn't be worth it. Change his name to Ivysaur and his Stage 2 to Stage 1. Then he's somewhat playable.
 
priestkalim said:
Fixing his attack doesn't help, he's a bench sitter. Even if it burned or did 80 base damage, it wouldn't be worth it. Change his name to Ivysaur and his Stage 2 to Stage 1. Then he's somewhat playable.
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That's way too strong. Dragon Call Gabite has the same effect but only for dragon type; it single-handedly turns Garchomp Altaria from a tier 2 deck at best to a tier 1`deck. And that doesn't even search out all of the Pokemon in the deck! Now imagine that it searched out every Pokemon. Every deck would be forced to run it-it would be a bigger staple than something like Mewtwo ever was.

Alright, so first of all 4 retreat is way too much. I'd say cut that down to 2, making it actually possible to retreat the thing without Darkrai/Switch. Then why not buff it to 150 hp. let's it live a few more things such as 30 snipe + Dark Claw Darkrai. Now there is the problem in setting up: I'd actually want to change its pre-evolved forms for this. Give Bulbasaur the attack Ascension, search the deck for Ivysaur and evolve it for {C}. Then give Ivysaur an Ability that allows you to search for a Venusaur when you play Ivysaur onto Bulbasaur, now its pathetically easy to get Venusaur out t2. That should be good. Might be a bit OP, we could remove Ivysaur's ability or put a drawback on it such as discarding a card.
 
See, Gabite is good because it evolves into a usable thing too. Ivysaur with this ability would be for all decks what Sunflora was for Grass decks. Good, but not ridiculously broken. Searching one Pokemon a turn at best relieves the stress of the Supporter lines.

2 is the worst possible number you could have picked for its retreat. 1 is a viable manual retreat, 3 is Heavy Ball. 2 is neither.
 
priestkalim said:
See, Gabite is good because it evolves into a usable thing too. Ivysaur with this ability would be for all decks what Sunflora was for Grass decks. Good, but not ridiculously broken. Searching one Pokemon a turn at best relieves the stress of the Supporter lines.

2 is the worst possible number you could have picked for its retreat. 1 is a viable manual retreat, 3 is Heavy Ball. 2 is neither.
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Except Sunflora was very good-its just there were never any good grass Pokemon to search out. Had it searched a type like fire, it would have been broken-and even then its not as good as you want Venusaur to be since many decks run multiple types of Pokemon. Also you wouldn't want 3 or 4 with Ivysaur having the ability to search it out, that would be pretty pointless. 2 lets it retreat with a DCE. Obviously 1 or 0 is better, but look at Venusaur and tell me it looks like a 1 or 0 retreat.
 
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