The Future Combos of Blastoise and Emboar

[YoshiUchiha]

This is for tcg format PLS-On. I've been wanting to do a deck of the future combos of Blastoise (PLB). I will start with Blastoise and then Emboar:

Combo 1: Black Kyurem-EX (PLS). Now this is the most popular choice for Blastoise. With this, you can do 200 damage with one attack. An amazing pokemon, yet held back by Druddigon (FLF).

Combo 2: Keldeo-EX (LTR) Now who wouldn't think of using Keldeo with Blastoise. You can use Rush-In to bring Keldeo active and Secret Sword isn't a bad attack, but Mewtwo-EX and Yveltal-EX hold Keldeo back.

Combo 3: Seismitoad-EX (FRF). Seismitoad can do 30 damage for 2 colorless energy. Terrible till you realize it also cuts off item cards. Since item cards are so important, imagine the devastation of your opponent.

Combo 4: Mewtwo and Yveltal both EX. Works with both of them. Attach energy to do a lot of damage. Done and simple.

Combo 5: Pyroar (FLF). No damage from basic pokemon. Can 2 hit KO any pokemon when has muscle band attached (excluding M-kanga and M-chari-X).

Combo 6: Any Charizard-EX (FLF) (XY Promos). Lets face it Flashfire loves Emboar.

Feel free to post your combos. I would love to see what you come up with.

 

[pokedan24]

For Blastoise

-Mega Blastoise EX: Really good once you get it set up. It's like a nightspear on steroids. You can easily hit those magic numbers and set it up so that even a mere Blastoise EX can finish the job. If you can find the room for max potions and energy retrievals, you can tank as well.
-Kyurem EX (PLB): Like Charizard EX, you can hit 170 with a muscle band without even having to retreat. Not to mention outrage making opponents think twice.
-Kyurem (PLF): I mean, it's a water pokemon with two decent attacks. I think even without plasma support, it's a pretty solid card.
-Mega Kangaskhan: Sure, you'd be better of using Mega Blastoise, but it's nice to have other options.

Emboar
-Delphox: Might be the new go to card for Emboar decks once Rayquaza rotates. Built in draw is amazing combined with emboars ability. The attack is also good and can hit magic numbers with the right cards.
-Reshiram EX: Same logic as Kyurem EX above. Fliptini can reduce the odds of Reshiram hurting himself.
-Reshiram (blue flare): A solid non EX option that only gives up one prize and gets past safeguarders.
-Blaziken (new): Attach a silver bangle and you're taking out any active EX or any non EX bench sitter.
-Magmortor (new): Can do 160 if Electriver is benched. Just attach a muscle band and you're good to go.
-M Kangaskhan: Same reason it works with blastoise.

(though I think a lot of the fire examples would work better with a blacksmith engine than Emboar, especially the evolutions)

 

[Mora]

But... Noo...

Emboar will simply never be good because of Blastoise. When it comes to filling colorless energy requirements, Blastoise will always a better choice than Emboar simply because Blastoise has all the options. Keldeo and Black Kyurem are obviously prime examples. Emboar has essentially nothing except for maybe Reshiram BW. Not Rayquaza. The only reason Rayboar was ever a thing was because it was second best to Eels, and even then if I recall correctly, the BKEX v/s RayEels matchup was slightly in BKEX's favor.

As for Blastoise, any of Blastoise's potential partners all suffer the same fatal flaw: They're not Black Kyurem/Keldeo. Unfortunately, it simply doesn't get better than vanilla 200 damage... unless ya know it was like vanilla 230 damage... but then that would just be ridiculous.

 

[Mr.Muffin]

Emboar
-Delphox: Might be the new go to card for Emboar decks once Rayquaza rotates. Built in draw is amazing combined with emboars ability. The attack is also good and can hit magic numbers with the right cards.
-Reshiram EX: Same logic as Kyurem EX above. Fliptini can reduce the odds of Reshiram hurting himself.
(though I think a lot of the fire examples would work better with a blacksmith engine than Emboar, especially the evolutions)

Protection Cube. No fliptini.

 

[Elbow]

Emboar
-Delphox: Might be the new go to card for Emboar decks once Rayquaza rotates. Built in draw is amazing combined with emboars ability. The attack is also good and can hit magic numbers with the right cards.
-Reshiram EX: Same logic as Kyurem EX above. Fliptini can reduce the odds of Reshiram hurting himself.
(though I think a lot of the fire examples would work better with a blacksmith engine than Emboar, especially the evolutions)

Protection Cube. No fliptini.

Victini NVI was reprinted in LT...

 

[Mr.Muffin]

Protection Cube. No fliptini.

Victini NVI was reprinted in LT...

I was saying that if you attach a Protection Cube to Reshiram you don't have to worry about the flip. It is give or take. Do you want to take up a 1-3 spot in your deck for protection cube, or 1-2 fliptini which isn't 100% that you will get what you want.

 

[Carpey]

Victini NVI was reprinted in LT...

I was saying that if you attach a Protection Cube to Reshiram you don't have to worry about the flip. It is give or take. Do you want to take up a 1-3 spot in your deck for protection cube, or 1-2 fliptini which isn't 100% that you will get what you want.

I actually use Reshiram but not with Emboar, and Fliptini is actually better. The Protection Cube means you can't use Muscle Bands, and it's not fun to waste 4 energy on a 2HKO. Also even if you do flip tails on the recoil, there's a good chance you were about to get 1-shotted anyways.

Back to the topic. I have tried Emboar with a number of different things, but you really just can't beat BKEX with any of the fire attackers. Also Blastoise has a somewhat usable attack and Squirtle's Shell Shield (say that 5 times fast ) is a great ability.

Seismitoad EX seems like it has some potential, but not with Blastoise. Seismitoad could easily just fit in another deck or maybe even a deck of its own because of the 2 Colorless attack cost.

 

[cardgjammer]

My combo: Blastoise + Kyurem-EX(PLB)-No need for electric energies-just focus on Waters. Low health? Use Kyurem's Outrage w/ Muscle Band attached to do up to 220 damage before Kyurem-EX is KO'd. Energies too low? Is Giga Frost, Flare grunts, and/or other ways that discard energies troubling you? Use Kingdra w/ your last water energy attached to it to reverse that problem by putting all Energies in discard back in deck with the potential of a KO and prize draw, then repeat until opponent is crushed...

 

[socery]

MIltank because it won nats, maybe we should try it with blastoise.

 

[Mora]

MIltank because it won nats, maybe we should try it with blastoise

But Miltank only attacks for one Energy... I'd put it with Empoleon maybe. But of course, that's another topic.

 

[skullvarnish]

I'm actually considering building Blastoise or Emboar/Yveltal EX. But the main issue us that it becomes too easy for the opponent to come attack with their own Yveltal or Mewtwo and just revenge KO.

 

[Mora]

I'm actually considering building Blastoise or Emboar/Yveltal EX. But the main issue us that it becomes too easy for the opponent to come attack with their own Yveltal or Mewtwo and just revenge KO.

Don't just load all your Energies onto one Yveltal. Try to always have a Mewtwo or Yveltal powered up on the Bench. That way you can revenge their revenge KO. Win the Mewtwo war, as it were. I had a Mewtwo with only one Energy, and my opponent had a Deoxys Active with no Energy. I attached an Energy, Energy Switch, Muscle Band, Laser, took a KO on the Deoxys to win the game. The truth is it has gotten a lot easier to revenge KO things like Mewtwo and Yveltal, but remember that the same goes for you.

 

[skullvarnish]

I'm actually considering building Blastoise or Emboar/Yveltal EX. But the main issue us that it becomes too easy for the opponent to come attack with their own Yveltal or Mewtwo and just revenge KO.

Don't just load all your Energies onto one Yveltal. Try to always have a Mewtwo or Yveltal powered up on the Bench. That way you can revenge their revenge KO. Win the Mewtwo war, as it were. I had a Mewtwo with only one Energy, and my opponent had a Deoxys Active with no Energy. I attached an Energy, Energy Switch, Muscle Band, Laser, took a KO on the Deoxys to win the game. The truth is it has gotten a lot easier to revenge KO things like Mewtwo and Yveltal, but remember that the same goes for you.

Heh, you made me want to build it even more now. How consistent will it be without Beach and Level Ball?

 

[Mora]

Heh, you made me want to build it even more now. How consistent will it be without Beach and Level Ball?

Probably not sadface. But I'm not an expert on that; I've never played that deck before. I've been doing a lot of testing with Virizion Mewtwo though. I'm definitely sure all things Blastoise will take a hit loosing Beach (and Level and Heavy Ball), but people have always tried to play Blastoise without Beach and had success with it, and I think people will continue to do so.