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Vilegar

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4 Spiritomb AR
4-3-3-1 Gengar (SF Gastly, 2 SF/1 TM Haunter, 2 SF/1 Prime Gengar,1 Lv.X)
2-2-2 Vileplume UD
2 Uxie
1-1-1 Machamp SF
1 Azlef
1 Unown Q

T/S/S~19

4 Pokemon Collector
3 Bebe's Search
3 BTS
2 PONT
2 Twins
2 Copycat
1 Seeker
1 Professor Juniper
1 Palmers Contribution

Energy~13

6 Psycic
3 Rescue
2 Rainbow
2 Warp

Strategy:
Set up with Spiritomb to get a Vileplume ASAP, to get trainer lock going. Then a Gengar, to start attacking. Twins is for if I get behind on prizes, and the Blaziken FB Lv.X is for Dialga, and for Reshiboar (Luring Flame Emboar up, and then they have to waste 4 energy to retreat). Rainbow energy also helps with Magnezone, because when I attach, it reduces my HP to 100, forceing them to attack and risk Fainting Spell. Devoluter is my Gyarados counter, using Seeker to pick up Vileplume so I can play it. I don't have Gengar Prime, as a counter, otherwise I would put it in with Devoluter.

I think this deck is a bit cluncky, and want it to run smoother. I also kinda want to put Darkrai/Cressilia Legend in, but I don't know if thats a good idea. Please help! If you find anything that needs work, please don't hesitate to say so.

EDIT#1: Made update #1!
 
Hello!
I used to play Vilegar and this looks like it could use some help. I'll start with your Gengar line. I personally don't like 3-3-3-1, as it isn't very consistent for starts. The extra Gastly is there in case you don't get the Spiritomb start so you can get the trainer lock going and it also helps get going faster. I suggest taking out the Devolutor since you can't even use them, while adding a 1-1 line of Haunter SF. I don't personally like Blaziken as a Dialga counter because it can just get sniped as soon as it touches the field. Machamp is better in almost all cases. I suggest taking out the Blaziken and Professor Juniper for a 1-1-1 Machamp SF line (SF-TM-SF.) One Copycat isn't going to help very much, so take out one Rescue Energy and one Pokemon Collector for two. You may even chose to use Looker's Investigation instead of Copycat.

Hope this helps!
 
Do you have any ideas for Gyarados counters? I can attempt to get a Gengar Prime, but I don't even think that Gengar Prime is a great of a counter.

And I have Blaziken in there for Luring Flame up Emboar, as a side bonus to Dialga. Emboar variants is played heavily in my area, along with Gyarados. I have Blaziken in ther because when I Luring Flame up their Emboar, they have to waste 4 Energy just to retreat, and with almost no recovery because of trainer lock, that wastes 2 Reshiram attacks, 1-2 RDL attacks depending on how many Energy discarded, and 1-2 Flare Blitz Emboar attack, again depending on amount of Energy attached. So Blaziken does have more upsides in my mind, at least for my area.

But I think I will take your advice on the everything else. I like the changes you made to Gengar linups. Do you have any thoughts on the Darkrai Cresselia Legend?
 
Vileplume itself is a potent Gyarados counter, as Gyarados has a hard time setting up with trainer lock on. Blaziken can help with that but the main thing, is that Blaziken is really fragile. You only have one shot to do damage with it.
 
I used to play Gyarados, and I know that Vileplume itself isn't enough for a decent counter. Especially with the T1 Supporter thing, Gyarados is a much bigger threat. And now that I think about it, Machamp can kill everything that Blaziken can. I think I will put Machamp in. Thanks!

I'll edit after I get some more insight. Thanks Azelf Master.
 
4 Bebe's? I know consistency and whatever, but try this.
-3 Bebe's Search
+2 PONT, refreshing your hand is key to success considering you will need a Broken Time Space ASAP, and you may get some other nifty stuff.
+1 Copycat, I can see you getting a lot of cards with these late game.
This might help too.
-1 Seeker
+1 Unown Q I think another will be of use, in case 1 is prized, you don't have to waste a bench space on Azelf.
 
I think you should take out the de-evolutors for copycats because first of all you will not be able to use them easily.Also since this is a battle road you will not be facing that many g-dos' so it isnt a good idea to cost yourself consitancy to tech agaisnst a deck that you may not even play.For example at my last BR I didnt even face any deck twice.
 
@VY Yes but I also think that it would increase the chance of him starting and getting donked with it.
So, Take out 1 Juniper for another Copycat as they could both be prized at the same time, but with 2, you have a better chance of actually getting in it...
 
Thanks! I need to keep at least 1 Juniper in, because late game my hand gets really clogged with stuff thats useless (i.e Spiritomb and BTS). I will take that Devoluters out, because I guess it does waste consistency. And probably add 2 PONT and 1 Copycat.

I am not going to add 1 Unown Q, because at Regionals my only losses were Unown Q donk (twice), and those also kept me out of Top Cut.
 
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