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Vileplume/Mewtwo-EX/Sigilyph Deck?

Blue

Blue

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Hello, I am wondering If this deck has any potential, it is my first deck i've built myself, and I'd love some feedback as to what can change from it. I have tested this deck numerously against darkrai-terrakion decks and it fares decently losing just a few more than it wins. I just want to make it better and able to stand up to competition. Here is the list.

3-1-3 Vileplume BC
3 Sigilyph DRX
2 Mewtwo-EX

4 N
4 Professor Juniper
4 Skyla
2 Cilan

3 Pokemon Catcher
4 Energy Switch
2 Switch
3 Rare Candy
4 Eviolite
2 Ultra Ball
3 Tool Scrapper
2 Enhanced Hammer

1 Prism Energy
3 DCE
4 Grass Energy
3 Psychic Energy

Please leave constructive critism and helpful tips to make this deck better!
 
Why prism? The only two basics you have both need Psychic energy.
 
-4 grass energy You probably don't want to attack with vileplume, it's supposed to just sit there.
- at least 1, probably 2 tool scrapper. It's not something you need three of
Same with eviolite
Same with Sigilyph
-2 Cilian. At least 90% of the time you'll wish it was another supporter.

And, you're kinda missing the point of vileplume. The reason I'm not suggesting adding anything is you should add attackers to take advantage of the x4 weaknesses. Basically anything that can attack for two energy or less that exploits a common weakness. Notable examples are LandorusEX, Rayquaza not-EX, maybe Meloetta, I've even heard lapras, and maybe (this is going to be really weird) even the new combee from this set, since it does 30 grass damage for one, then retreats into the deck. Try to guess what's popular near you and counter it. Basically, hit'em hard and fast where it hurts.

I also don't see anything [future] about this deck.
 
Violetwisp said:
-4 grass energy You probably don't want to attack with vileplume, it's supposed to just sit there.
- at least 1, probably 2 tool scrapper. It's not something you need three of
Same with eviolite
Same with Sigilyph
-2 Cilian. At least 90% of the time you'll wish it was another supporter.

And, you're kinda missing the point of vileplume. The reason I'm not suggesting adding anything is you should add attackers to take advantage of the x4 weaknesses. Basically anything that can attack for two energy or less that exploits a common weakness. Notable examples are LandorusEX, Rayquaza not-EX, maybe Meloetta, I've even heard lapras, and maybe (this is going to be really weird) even the new combee from this set, since it does 30 grass damage for one, then retreats into the deck. Basically, hit'em hard where it hurts.
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When I saw Vileplume, i saw it as a card that could potentially take down a Keldeo-EX that is why I have the grass energies for him. The prism is there to act a substitute for either a psychic or a grass, But you are right that I need more attackers. and when you say non-ex rayquaza are you referring to the one that does 40 damage and 90 damage? I see the potential in the combee but It would defintely have to be a turn-1 combee type deal? Ill look over the cards I can work with. For cilan, could I then switch it for a bianca or a cheren?
 
Right now, Vileplume ONLY helps in Mewtwo matchups. If you want to beat Darkrai, put in Terrakion EX. With Vileplume out, you OHKO Darkrai regardless of Eviolite with its first attack. If you want something to take down Keldeo, use the Bellosum of the same set. You OHKO through Eviolite for a single Grass energy.
 
Mora said:
Right now, Vileplume ONLY helps in Mewtwo matchups. If you want to beat Darkrai, put in Terrakion EX. With Vileplume out, you OHKO Darkrai regardless of Eviolite with its first attack. If you want something to take down Keldeo, use the Bellosum of the same set. You OHKO through Eviolite for a single Grass energy.
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Ok thank you!
 
Blue said:
When I saw Vileplume, i saw it as a card that could potentially take down a Keldeo-EX that is why I have the grass energies for him. The prism is there to act a substitute for either a psychic or a grass, But you are right that I need more attackers. and when you say non-ex rayquaza are you referring to the one that does 40 damage and 90 damage? I see the potential in the combee but It would defintely have to be a turn-1 combee type deal? Ill look over the cards I can work with. For cilan, could I then switch it for a bianca or a cheren?
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Prism energy only works on basic pokemon, so it wouldn't work for vileplume. If you use the dark blend energy it would cover the grass, but stacking four energy isn't really worth it.
That is the rayquaza I was referring too, yes.
It wouldn't have to be turn one, in fact, that's sort of dangerous, because if it's your only basic you just lose there. I'd run some level balls to search it, sigilyph, and oddish out, and only pull it up when it can do 120 to things after vileplume's up.
I'm going to be in the minority here, but since you should be running a lot of pokemon, I'd suggest two Colress. Barring that, I'd probably go with Cheren, since I really don't like Bianca.
And looking back at the list, four energy search (Energy Switch, I can't read...) is too much. I'd just make the pokemon line over again and try to fit trainers around those.
 
wow, I can't believe i missed that the prism only works on basic. My bad. and ok, I see what you mean with combee now. also I use four energy switch not search. :p and alright, ill see what i can do.
 
well i made a vileplume deck it is very fun when it works (dont worry about getting vileplume because i always get it 2-5 turn)
anyway here it is
15 pokemon
1 virizion (for keldeo and draw)
1 mewtwo (if i do not have vileplume and i need to kill psychic pokemon i love it because of its surprise they have a psychic pokemon out i send out mewtwo dce and switch/retreat death with vileplume)
1 reshiram (the only fire pokemon that is good)
terrakion ex (i use him mostly for his first abilty 50x4 is 200)
1 darkrai (retreat with prism or blend)
1 keldeo (i like him because a prism and double colorless is 50x4 is 200 and RUSH IN)
1 siglyph or bouflant (ex killers (i like siglyph to stall and put energy in the back and bouflant is a tank)
4 oddish
3 vileplume
1 mew (all you pokemon moves can be copyed)
1 zekrom ex/zekrom/zapdos (i like zapdos the best 3 colorless for random spark 50 damadge to anyone)
16 items
4 pokemon catchers
2 pokemon communication
2 ultra ball
2 float stones
1 switch
1 scramble switch or computer switch
4 rare candys
11 supporters
3 professor junipers
4 ns
4 skylas
15 energy
4 DCE
4 Prism Energy
4 blend energy (grass dark fire psychic)
3 any basic energy

now you have 3 cards left to put in whatever you want i like putting in more pokemon (eg. another terrakion ex another zapdos/zekrom/zekrom ex or a Cobalion (so that you can kill the new plasma freeze kyurem or if they have a articuno) etc. so if they kill one of your fighting pokemon you are not ruined against a dark pokemon)

Strategy: you find out what deck they are playing get vileplume as quickly as possible ( it is not always good to do it "as quickly as possible" because if your opponent has your weakness then you should wait and get there weakness put vileplume switch (pokemon catcher if needed) then kill the pokemon) get a pokemon that has there weakness and you go wrecking there deck ( note: after you put energy on the pokemon that has there weakness you should either get a pokemon that has that same type or get a different pokemon with a different type to wreck his deck (because the opponent is most likely useing different pokemon with different weakness)
 
Uh why is it labeled Future? Oh and I suggest this reasons why will be right next to the card.

- 1 Gloom I really don't know why it is useful because it is a chance
- 1 Cilan It should be quite easy to get energy out already so I see no need for it
- 1 Energy Switch Everyone I know plays three so I think it is a waste of space
- 1 Prizm Energy It really does not need to be in the deck most people take advantage of it anyway
+ 1 Sigilyph I know a kid who made the card almost impossible to beat with most of the you have in the deck
+ 1 Ghetsis For fun I like the card and it could help get set up
+ 1 Pokemon Catcher It`ll help
+ 1 Psychic For the Sigilyph

I hope I helped with your deck and all :p
 
Blue said:
Hello, I am wondering If this deck has any potential, it is my first deck i've built myself, and I'd love some feedback as to what can change from it. I have tested this deck numerously against darkrai-terrakion decks and it fares decently losing just a few more than it wins. I just want to make it better and able to stand up to competition. Here is the list.

3-1-3 Vileplume BC
3 Sigilyph DRX
2 Mewtwo-EX

4 N
4 Professor Juniper
4 Skyla
2 Cilan

3 Pokemon Catcher
4 Energy Switch
2 Switch
3 Rare Candy
4 Eviolite
2 Ultra Ball
3 Tool Scrapper
2 Enhanced Hammer

1 Prism Energy
3 DCE
4 Grass Energy
3 Psychic Energy

Please leave constructive critism and helpful tips to make this deck better!
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first of all if you are playing vileplume you should try to get alot of different of pokemon to cover more weaknesses there is no point running vileplume in this deck you should just run lasers but anyway if you want to make a vileplume deck get as many weaknesses has you can try getting pokemon that kill the most weaknesses in this meta
try basing it off this and adding and switching cards to it to make it what you like
well i made a vileplume deck it is very fun when it works
anyway here it is (all you need is 50 damadge in this deck for 2)
15 pokemon
1 virizion (for keldeo and draw)
1 mewtwo (if i do not have vileplume and i need to kill psychic pokemon i love it because of its surprise they have a psychic pokemon out i send out mewtwo dce and switch/retreat death with vileplume)
1 reshiram or reshiram ex (reshiram is if you do not kill it it kills you but it does not OHKO people that are weak to fire but reshiram ex does which is why i like reshiram ex)
terrakion ex (i use him mostly for his first abilty 50x4 is 200)
1 darkrai (retreat with prism or blend)
1 keldeo (i like him because a prism and double colorless is 50x4 is 200 and RUSH IN)
1 siglyph or bouflant (ex killers (i like siglyph to stall and put energy in the back and bouflant is a tank)
4 oddish
3 vileplume
1 mew (all you pokemon moves can be copyed) (i do not really like him you can take him out he is a ex and usally gets catchered death before i even use him)
1 zekrom ex/zekrom/zapdos (i like zapdos the best 3 colorless for random spark 50 damadge to anyone) (zekrom cant OHKO people but has outrage if you touch him he is going to touch you back harder (except if you one shot him) (Zekrom EX has is mine second to favorite he has alot of hp he has 2 for 50 (with a DCE) but he needs a prism which why is why i like a zapdos better)
16 items
4 pokemon catchers
2 pokemon communication
2 ultra ball
2 float stones
1 switch
1 scramble switch or computer switch
4 rare candys
11 supporters
3 professor junipers
4 ns
4 skylas
15 energy
4 DCE
4 Prism Energy
4 blend energy (grass dark fire psychic)
3 any basic energy

now you have 3 cards left to put in whatever you want i like putting in more pokemon (eg. another terrakion ex another zapdos/zekrom/zekrom ex or a Cobalion (so that you can kill the new plasma freeze kyurem or if they have a articuno) etc. so if they kill one of your fighting pokemon you are not ruined against a dark pokemon)

Strategy: you find out what deck they are playing get vileplume as quickly as possible ( it is not always good to do it "as quickly as possible" because if your opponent has your weakness then you should wait and get there weakness put vileplume switch (pokemon catcher if needed) then kill the pokemon) get a pokemon that has there weakness and you go wrecking there deck ( note: after you put energy on the pokemon that has there weakness you should either get a pokemon that has that same type or get a different pokemon with a different type to wreck his deck (because the opponent is most likely useing different pokemon with different weakness) (I should also put in some colress with all this pokemon)
 
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