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Vileplume/Swasbuck Counter

BlackMaid97

Aspiring Trainer
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Ok.. So I suck at making decks but... I decided to make a grass deck for all the water decks people are using.. Please no flaming.. It really dampens my spirits.

The main pokemon are
Leavanny W/ Leaf tailor for any fire decks out there, it takes away weakness.
Vileplume W/ Allergy Panic for dealing x4 damage to keldeo ex and others weak to grass
Sawsbuck W/ Nature Power for big damage
Keldeo EX for bringing down Landorus, or Terrakion.


Cards
Keldeo EX x2
Deerling-Sawsbuck 4-3
Oddish-Gloom-Vileplume 3-3-2
Sewaddle-Swadloon-Leavanny 4-3-2
Grass Energy x18
Rare Candy x4
Energy Retrieval x2
Exp. Share x2
Cilan x2
Poke Com. x2
Super Rod x2
Town map x1
Energy search x1
 
RE: Blastiose/Keldeo Exterminator

Good Deck. 2 advices:
1. Keldeo , I think, isn't really designed for attacking, well sort of. It's really meant for last minute saves, like Shaymin EX.
2. If you were using that kind of deck, always stick with a Computer Search.

Other than that, it's ok.... ish. But not bad. If you creating a deck like this, get more normal type EX''s like Tornadus and Regigigas. Shaymin EX would be very useful if you have this deck. Fast-ish, last minute saving, Pokemon.
 
RE: Blastiose/Keldeo Exterminator

Ok, So I will omit some trainers, (Leaning towards Energy search, town map and super rod) for a computer search. Then omit a Keldeo for Shaymin EX and Then omit a sewaddle for a normal EX. So I will have
Keldeo EX x1
Shaymin EX x1
Normal EX x1 (Will Update when I found one I like)
Deerling-Sawsbuck 4-3
Oddish-Gloom-Vileplume 3-3-2
Sewaddle-Swadloon-Leavanny 3-3-2
Grass Energy x18
Rare Candy x4
Energy Retrieval x2
Exp. Share x2
Cilan x2
Poke Com. x2
Super Rod x2
Town map x1
Computer Search x1


Isn't Computer search a Ace Spec?
 
RE: Blastiose/Keldeo Exterminator

I always like counter decks, but just make sure you local meta is mainly keldeo if you choose to run a heavy grass counter. I think leavanny is pointless though simply because fire for the most part is dead in our format. You might run into an occasional ho-oh deck, but i would just use a mewtwo or tornadus ex to take care of that. 9 cards is way to many to counter a dead weakness and with ho-oh hitting for 80 minimum anyway it really becomes less useful. I will post again later as on what add in since im on a smartphone, and i want a chance to look at card scans


Oh and 18 grass with 2 cilan is way to much for decks without extremely heavy energy acceleration.
 
RE: Blastiose/Keldeo Exterminator

Please update this thread title with the main Pokemon from your deck. Thank you :]
 
RE: Blastiose/Keldeo Exterminator

exdarkrai01 said:
I always like counter decks, but just make sure you local meta is mainly keldeo if you choose to run a heavy grass counter. I think leavanny is pointless though simply because fire for the most part is dead in our format. You might run into an occasional ho-oh deck, but i would just use a mewtwo or tornadus ex to take care of that. 9 cards is way to many to counter a dead weakness and with ho-oh hitting for 80 minimum anyway it really becomes less useful. I will post again later as on what add in since im on a smartphone, and i want a chance to look at card scans


Oh and 18 grass with 2 cilan is way to much for decks without extremely heavy energy acceleration.



So, do you suggest removing all leavanny or keeping 2-2-1? I look forward to seeing more suggestions from you! I know one person at our league runs a Psychic/Fire Chandelure deck.
 
Okay man, so iv'e looked over the list a little bit and first of all I will say that I build rougue decks all the time, but have yet to actually play one in a tournament. Building rogues is a ton of fun but its rare to find one that works competitively. That being said, if you plan to use this deck for fun, awesome but should you consider playing this deck in a tournament you will have to understand that this deck will only be good against keldeo. If 90% of people in your area run keldeo, I think its a great choice. If not, I think you will struggle. Also I don't say any of this insulting your idea im just having your back so you don't go into a cities and get stomped all day because you made the wrong meta call.

With all of that being said lets get down to the deck. Ill give you the basics but ill leave you to come up with the actual list, because thats the fun in building rougues.
First off, leavanny is pointless like I said earlier. You will rarely run into fire so its not worth clumping up your consistency for protection. Grass is just a frail type in general. Removing weakness really won't help so I wouldn't run any of them.
Second is your energy. 18 energy is WAY to much without a way to attach more than one energy per turn. Especially running cards like energy retrieval, energy search, and cilan. You will find youself with just way to many energy. Most decks run around 8-12 and hardely ever run cilan.
Third is you have no draw supporters your will find cards like Professor Juniper , N , Bianca , and Skyla very useful into getting cards you need in your hand. A typical supporter line for a stage 2 deck would look something like this...

4 Professor Juniper
4 N
2-3 Skyla
And occasionally 1-2 Bianca or Cheren

Skyla will be very useful in searching out that rare candy to get the vileplume out as quick as possible. Also you might want to add in 3-4 Pokemon Catcher Its an expensive card but it will be invaluable in a deck like this where you NEED to take prizes on those water pokemon.

Lastly I will say that level ball will be very useful in this deck, searching out most of your pokemon, for no cost. I would run 3-4 level ball and then 2 ultra ball to get out pokemon with higher than 90 hp.

Those would be the basics for building a consistent deck and I hope some of these suggestion find you more consistency. To recap I would..

Reduce energy to 8-12
Add in 10-14 Supporters, with 8 being the bare minimum that will draw cards.
Remove Leavanny completely
Try to add Catcher
Add some sort of Pokemon search.

I hope all this helps man, LMK how it goes or if you have any other questions and know that most of the suggestions I gave you will apply to almost ANY deck you build. Staples are staples for a reason, they will improve consistency of nearly any deck. Good Luck!!
 
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