Finished Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - The Order of the Phoenix is the Winner!

[Jeremy1026]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

I don't particularly like your defense TheGuy.

##UNVOTE: grant
##VOTE: TheGuy

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

It's kind of suspicious that we have 2 good lynch targets and Jeremy tries to move attention to someone for "not liking" the defence.

 

[Drohn]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Any reason you didn't like his defence to such an extent that you changed your vote away from Grant? If I'm missing something, please let me/us know rather than just saying you don't particularly like his defence.

 

[Vom]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Before I begin to address Celever's argument I'd like to preface with what may be called unfamiliar play. If anyone has followed my post count and activity levels on PokéBeach, it's at an all-time low - WW is the only reason I log on at all and some days I forget to log on at all. In fact, I usually post every time I log in and have time to read the whole thread. And then this last day I didn't post at the end because I was at a Speech and Debate tournament all day for three days straight. I will now proceed to make a few comments in bold.

That imo implies you don't have much to do here, which basically is scummy to me.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

It's kind of suspicious that we have 2 good lynch targets and Jeremy tries to move attention to someone for "not liking" the defence.

TheGuy is a good lynch target too, and arguably better than grant. After that defence I'm even more confident in my read on him that he is anti-town than I was before, and, very importantly, TheGuy has the potential, hell, a considerable probability of being the final indie. Wiping out a whole faction this cycle is better than just another Death Eater, and looking at the evidence we have on grant right now, I think that the only way things make sense with his action is if he is a Death Eater now.

So it's risk vs reward. There's nothing stopping us lynching grant tomorrow, but that is because there is legitimate evidence on him. I don't want TheGuy to fade into obscurity after the somewhat shoddy defence he just made, which I will analyse momentarily.

But first, I just wanted to elaborate on this for Lenny, since he didn't understand where I was going with it the first time round. Brave Vesperia claimed that he targeted me with the following action last night:
"Ability: Aura Scan
One of your hobbies is to practice aura reading upon another’s actions. However, you can’t master this craft to its entirety. Once every even-numbered night you may PM me a player name. If that player performed an action that night, you’ll receive his or her alignment."
Note that it says "If that player performed an action that night". I didn't perform an action, as I do not have an active ability to use right now. I think this must be why the action failed. Maybe I "blocked" the aura? I just think it must just be a sort of default thing Luis has going on...

OK, time for TheGuy. I'm going to go ahead and spoiler this, as I don't want to clog up the thread:

Spoiler: READ PLEASE

Before I begin to address Celever's argument I'd like to preface with what may be called unfamiliar play. If anyone has followed my post count and activity levels on PokéBeach, it's at an all-time low - WW is the only reason I log on at all and some days I forget to log on at all. In fact, I usually post every time I log in and have time to read the whole thread. And then this last day I didn't post at the end because I was at a Speech and Debate tournament all day for three days straight. I will now proceed to make a few comments in bold.

I don't want to turn into Camo, but... AtE. It's somewhat irrelevant anyway; I did mention that your activity was quite low, but you could have literally said "I don't have much time" and I'd have been fine with it. Hell, I said that myself earlier on in the thread.

This was Day 1, and sorta coming out of RVS. Now, TheGuy has done a classically scummy thing here, which is fuelling the wagon without actually placing a vote on there himself. This is especially scummy on Day 1, where votes are p much dispensable. When I was reading through Day 1 to try and find a lead early on, this is what got my alarm bells ringing, so I decided to look into TheGuy further, and I found quite a bit here which would be otherwise easily lost, as he hasn't made a large amount of posts.

I'm all for voicing my opinion on an issue, you'll find that most all of my posts comment on the most important issue currently being discussed - whether it's for or against a lynch

Yes, but you could have still lynched Teal and said "it was still RVS!" to apply more pressure (since there is no clear line to say RVS is done) and the fact that you didn't is still scummy. You didn't actually address the point, which is that you fuelled a lynch without placing a vote: in other words, you want him lynched, but you don't want the responsibility for it. We now know that Teal was in fact Albus Dumbledore, so this is definitely a negative thing for you to do.

He did later vote for Teal, but for OMGUS? D1 OMGUS doesn't really count. This was still p much RVS, remember.

The first quote you used was "sorta comin out of RVS" as you said and now this one a day later is "p much RVS", you can't say that something that starts the game is happening after it ends, that doesn't make any sense. I also believe its fairly reasonable to vote for someone for OMGUS when the initial accusation was somewhat reasonable, which it was.

RVS is all about how the players feel at the time. When we seemed to have a legitimate lead on Teal, the attitude of the masses was sorta coming out of RVS. When we discovered that that point was no longer valid, we delved back into it. RVS can stop and start easily at the beginning of the game...

But anyway, it's not reasonable on Day 1, even if the case was solid, especially for a Day 1 case. If a wagon starts to develop, they THEN start feeling pressured and start reacting, and you're definitely experienced -- more than enough to know this. You didn't want responsibility for pushing his lynch, and this is clear.

Oh yup, yup guys! I knew it all along!

Note: When TheGuy finally decided to lynch Drac, he already had 8 votes on him. Just saying "OK guys, this lynch seems good, I'll go with it" is fine, but saying "I knew it all along but decided not to say anything!" is not. I'm not sure whether I think TheGuy is indie or wolf as of yet (though I'm confident that he's not town), but this is the main thing that's telling me he's indie.

I read a lot of posts at once, Drac looked suspicious, was revealed as an Indie, and got eight votes all in the difference of the last time I'd logged in.

So if you thought he knew more than he was letting on the whole time, why didn't you say anything? This was also in my previous post, which you chose to ignore. I would like a straight answer.

He's actually defending himself here, not Keeper. Note that he says that what Keeper is doing is a good strategy, and it's "doing what I'm usually doing", which in turn means that TheGuy is performing a good strategy. Subtle Wink

Sure, I'm defending myself too but I'd do the same thing if I had the time to be active and post a lot of times during the day. It's what I honestly believe, Keeper was just randomly the person accused at the time.

Still, it's interesting that you decided to pipe up for a topic which happened to also be directly beneficial to you. IIRC, it wasn't exactly the "hot topic" for a while then, which is what you claim to comment on.

This is pressure, right? Well, no. If you guys can remember the Dogger incident well, you will know that Dogger "slipped", but the original case-maker, Teal, decided to put pressure on the other person "involved" in said slip, MtC. TheGuy was second to bandwagon on this, but he voted for MtC instead of Dogger. This is because he could see some kind of bandwagon forming from the case (it was a good case) and wanted to back the winning horse.

While it is true that soon afterwards, a couple more people joined the lynch (bbninjas, KoN, OAP) these people provided further insight in their posts, and it wasn't just a wagon. TheGuy's was no more than what I quoted, and that rubs me up the wrong way.

Never heard of simply placing a bit more pressure?

That wasn't the point that I was trying to make, though I admit that I wasn't too clear, so sorry about that. You pressured MtC with your vote, when your post was talking about pressuring Dogger, so you weren't pressuring, you were bandwagoning. You were experienced enough to notice the contradiction between the lynch vote and the case, but you didn't comment on it... Presumably this is because, as anti-town, you saw MtC as the bigger thread, as he is very much experienced and GOOD at ww. Or maybe you just saw the opportunity to start a wagon, and jumped on it, hoping that no one would notice...

What? "Don't lynch MTC he is tied to Dogger and Dogger is good but we should lynch Dogger because Dogger is in no way cleared!" What was he even getting at here? Spreading confusion?

Dogger accusing random people (in this case Keeper) without revealing his evidence isn't scummy and worthy of a lynch? But I'm not allowed to be less suspicious of MTC even though I had no reason to believe he was scum other than the connection with dogger?

That's not what you said. In response to bbninjas proposing a lynch on MtC, you said that "the problem with a MTC lynch is that the evidence against MTC was tied to Dogger". This means that the lynch shouldn't happen because the evidence is tied to Dogger. But THEN because you saw a wagon developing on Dogger, you said "I'm fine with lynching him though!" Backpedalling on this point in your most recent post isn't doing you any favours here, I'm afraid, and you can't twist your words out of this one.

"I'm not connected to anyone so if I die you have nothing to go off of in terms of wolf partners!" This was a two-sided argument, and saying that both sides of scum is for the most part flawed. It can be genius in certain situations, but this wasn't one of them, so it was once again TheGuy pretending to be contributing.

Camoclone likes to push his opinion and attack others that disagree with him and I was combating because it contradicted my opinion. You attack me for echoing and then attack me for going against the majority opinion - that's a bit contradictory.?

Not really? That statement is straight up false, and you are trying to interpret the words in a way which suits you. I didn't attack you for going against the masses -- I go against the masses all the time in these games -- I attacked you for trying to have no connection whatsoever to anyone else in the game. And echoing is still scummy, because it is adding nothing to the discussion, and is giving the illusion of contribution. If you were contributing besides the few times you echoed, or you were widely considered and trusted as town it'd be different, because you seconding something matters. You are not one of those people and were not one of those people, and you were not saying it in a sort of "I second this" way. You were bringing them up as new points, which is irrefutably a scummy action.

It definitely feels like he sorta talking TO rev here, don't you think? Obviously if TheGuy were an indie, he would just use the QT, or so you'd think, but IDK. It still seems sorta wolfy.

It was poor play, you can't disagree with that.

That's not the point. The point is that you were talking TO a known indie about his play. It's a minor thing, but it feels un-towny to me, especially because you could have brought something new up or added to the discussion with the time you had in that post. Even if the discussion has moved on, it is ALWAYS handy for us to have your opinions on various matters so as to make a fairer and clearer judgement on your alignment farther on into the game, and you have tried to evade doing this so far. As an experienced player, though, you clearly know all of this, too.

I'm confused about this. "This Lenny thing is over." When? I don't remember Lenny being cleaned? I don't like how condescending and damning he was when he said that, especially because he was umming and ahhing just one day before this (we're at the start of Day 4 now).

grant was tunnelling something that was long past its expiration date

No it wasn't. You were still sort of umming and ahhing about Lenny nearing the end of Day 3, and this is right at the beginning of Day 4 after our main lead died. It's a basic contradiction with your own thought process because you wanted to start suspicions on grant flying high again.

I would like to lynch TheGuy today, because looking at the evidence, I find it most likely he is an indie, probably the final one (one of the last to lynch Drac, despite "knowing that Drac knew more than he was letting on at the start", and the attack on grant (who is a probable Death Eater) so we should take out a full faction, (or leave it standing on its final, frail legs) today, rather than postponing it tomorrow. It's not a huge difference, but it makes sense, and TheGuy has the possibility to fade into obscurity and fly under the radar soon. We all don't want that.

 

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Wow, a lot of incriminated evidence today! Grant and Celever seem very likely to be scum. I find it pretty unlikely that an ability caused both of those abilities to fail. I'd like to see role claims from both of you. Brave also looks very suspicious. I researched his role a bit, and none of it is really accurate to Luna Lovegood. A lot of the abilities I could easily see belonging to a wolf/indie, too.

I definitely agree with you as far as Brave's claim of Luna seeming suspicious. There are far too many errors related to flavor in it to be real, and the abilities seem more scum-like than town-like. I'm interested though in why you believe Grant and Celever to likely be scum because of the abilities failing. I'm not sure if I completely understood that part, would you mind elaborating on it for me?

 

[TheGuy]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Before I begin to address Celever's argument I'd like to preface with what may be called unfamiliar play. If anyone has followed my post count and activity levels on PokéBeach, it's at an all-time low - WW is the only reason I log on at all and some days I forget to log on at all. In fact, I usually post every time I log in and have time to read the whole thread. And then this last day I didn't post at the end because I was at a Speech and Debate tournament all day for three days straight. I will now proceed to make a few comments in bold.

I don't want to turn into Camo, but... AtE. It's somewhat irrelevant anyway; I did mention that your activity was quite low, but you could have literally said "I don't have much time" and I'd have been fine with it. Hell, I said that myself earlier on in the thread.

The fact that I'm not that active is pretty important to some other refutations I have which I'll explain more clearly in the direct refutations.

I'm all for voicing my opinion on an issue, you'll find that most all of my posts comment on the most important issue currently being discussed - whether it's for or against a lynch

Yes, but you could have still lynched Teal and said "it was still RVS!" to apply more pressure (since there is no clear line to say RVS is done) and the fact that you didn't is still scummy. You didn't actually address the point, which is that you fuelled a lynch without placing a vote: in other words, you want him lynched, but you don't want the responsibility for it. We now know that Teal was in fact Albus Dumbledore, so this is definitely a negative thing for you to do.

Teal already had five votes, he didn't need another this early in the day. If I don't want him lynched that quickly, but still suspect him what else am I supposed to do other than say that I'm suspicious and withhold my vote until later?/

The first quote you used was "sorta comin out of RVS" as you said and now this one a day later is "p much RVS", you can't say that something that starts the game is happening after it ends, that doesn't make any sense. I also believe its fairly reasonable to vote for someone for OMGUS when the initial accusation was somewhat reasonable, which it was.

RVS is all about how the players feel at the time. When we seemed to have a legitimate lead on Teal, the attitude of the masses was sorta coming out of RVS. When we discovered that that point was no longer valid, we delved back into it. RVS can stop and start easily at the beginning of the game...

But anyway, it's not reasonable on Day 1, even if the case was solid, especially for a Day 1 case. If a wagon starts to develop, they THEN start feeling pressured and start reacting, and you're definitely experienced -- more than enough to know this. You didn't want responsibility for pushing his lynch, and this is clear.

Sure, but five votes is more than enough pressure initially until I felt more strongly that Teal was scum

I read a lot of posts at once, Drac looked suspicious, was revealed as an Indie, and got eight votes all in the difference of the last time I'd logged in.

So if you thought he knew more than he was letting on the whole time, why didn't you say anything? This was also in my previous post, which you chose to ignore. I would like a straight answer.

I don't think you understood my post. This is where the inactive thing plays in. There were a full 97 posts in between my last post (and reading of the thread) and the one that you pointed out, including 6 of GM Draclord's that occurred BEFORE he was confirmed to be an indie. I read from my last post, saw those six, found GM Draclord suspicious, read that he was confirmed, read the 7 or so votes that were for him, and added mine. I didn't notice until reading the thread before that post.

Sure, I'm defending myself too but I'd do the same thing if I had the time to be active and post a lot of times during the day. It's what I honestly believe, Keeper was just randomly the person accused at the time.

Still, it's interesting that you decided to pipe up for a topic which happened to also be directly beneficial to you. IIRC, it wasn't exactly the "hot topic" for a while then, which is what you claim to comment on.

Believe it or not, but it was the "hot topic". That was just after the 10 post per day requirement was established and Keeper said he was going to make his posts and the come back if he had anything more to say and a lot of people were jumping on his bandwagon for it and I, playing very similarly to the way Keeper plays, came to his defense as a second opinion.

Never heard of simply placing a bit more pressure?

That wasn't the point that I was trying to make, though I admit that I wasn't too clear, so sorry about that. You pressured MtC with your vote, when your post was talking about pressuring Dogger, so you weren't pressuring, you were bandwagoning. You were experienced enough to notice the contradiction between the lynch vote and the case, but you didn't comment on it... Presumably this is because, as anti-town, you saw MtC as the bigger thread, as he is very much experienced and GOOD at ww. Or maybe you just saw the opportunity to start a wagon, and jumped on it, hoping that no one would notice...

You do make a good point but Dogger and MTC were linked together at that point, pressure for one was pressure for the other as well.

That's not what you said. In response to bbninjas proposing a lynch on MtC, you said that "the problem with a MTC lynch is that the evidence against MTC was tied to Dogger". This means that the lynch shouldn't happen because the evidence is tied to Dogger. But THEN because you saw a wagon developing on Dogger, you said "I'm fine with lynching him though!" Backpedalling on this point in your most recent post isn't doing you any favours here, I'm afraid, and you can't twist your words out of this one.

After placing the pressure after the possible slip, Dogger freaked out and began making ungrounded accusations and people were rightfully suspicious of him, and I was too. At this point, the evidence against dogger and the reason I changed my vote to him wasn't because he was being voted for but because he was acting irrationally.

Let me do quote what I actually said: "The problem with an MTC lynch is that the evidence against MTC was tied to Dogger - I don't really think he was scummy before dogger's supposed slip. At this point I would definitely lean towards a Lenny or Dogger lynch. Lenny had been acting very strange when accused and dogger is by no means cleared in my book." In other words, I'd prefer a dogger lynch over an MTC lynch because I have no reason other than "the slip" to suspect MTC but I did have other reasons to suspect Dogger and I didn't need to state the reasons because everyone was posting about them.


Camoclone likes to push his opinion and attack others that disagree with him and I was combating because it contradicted my opinion. You attack me for echoing and then attack me for going against the majority opinion - that's a bit contradictory.?

Not really? That statement is straight up false, and you are trying to interpret the words in a way which suits you. I didn't attack you for going against the masses -- I go against the masses all the time in these games -- I attacked you for trying to have no connection whatsoever to anyone else in the game. And echoing is still scummy, because it is adding nothing to the discussion, and is giving the illusion of contribution. If you were contributing besides the few times you echoed, or you were widely considered and trusted as town it'd be different, because you seconding something matters. You are not one of those people and were not one of those people, and you were not saying it in a sort of "I second this" way. You were bringing them up as new points, which is irrefutably a scummy action.

You accuse me for defending Keeper too much and then you say I try to have no connections to anyone? That's inconsistent. I honestly thought that both of them were suspicious and was countering Camo's claim. I also don't understand your claim in the second part of this paragraph you seem to accuse me for echoing and then call this post "new points" and "irreffutably a scummy action" Which is scummy Celever, echoing or posting "new points"? Or is everything scummy in your books?

It was poor play, you can't disagree with that.

That's not the point. The point is that you were talking TO a known indie about his play. It's a minor thing, but it feels un-towny to me, especially because you could have brought something new up or added to the discussion with the time you had in that post. Even if the discussion has moved on, it is ALWAYS handy for us to have your opinions on various matters so as to make a fairer and clearer judgement on your alignment farther on into the game, and you have tried to evade doing this so far. As an experienced player, though, you clearly know all of this, too.

I've expressed my opinion on things going on in a lot of the posts that I've made. The lynch here was all but certain, you don't have to voice an opinion on everything, especially when it's past unless people specifically ask for it.

grant was tunnelling something that was long past its expiration date

No it wasn't. You were still sort of umming and ahhing about Lenny nearing the end of Day 3, and this is right at the beginning of Day 4 after our main lead died. It's a basic contradiction with your own thought process because you wanted to start suspicions on grant flying high again.

Please tell me where I mentioned Lenny in Day 3, the last time I'd mentioned it in the posts you provided was during Day 2, in real life days it was more than 2 weeks apart

I would like to lynch TheGuy today, because looking at the evidence, I find it most likely he is an indie, probably the final one (one of the last to lynch Drac, despite "knowing that Drac knew more than he was letting on at the start", and the attack on grant (who is a probable Death Eater) so we should take out a full faction, (or leave it standing on its final, frail legs) today, rather than postponing it tomorrow. It's not a huge difference, but it makes sense, and TheGuy has the possibility to fade into obscurity and fly under the radar soon. We all don't want that.

 

[Machamp The Champion]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Before I begin to address Celever's argument I'd like to preface with what may be called unfamiliar play. If anyone has followed my post count and activity levels on PokéBeach, it's at an all-time low - WW is the only reason I log on at all and some days I forget to log on at all. In fact, I usually post every time I log in and have time to read the whole thread. And then this last day I didn't post at the end because I was at a Speech and Debate tournament all day for three days straight. I will now proceed to make a few comments in bold.

That imo implies you don't have much to do here, which basically is scummy to me.

That doesn't seem very scummy to me. Scum still have plenty of reason to post in the thread.

Wow, a lot of incriminated evidence today! Grant and Celever seem very likely to be scum. I find it pretty unlikely that an ability caused both of those abilities to fail. I'd like to see role claims from both of you. Brave also looks very suspicious. I researched his role a bit, and none of it is really accurate to Luna Lovegood. A lot of the abilities I could easily see belonging to a wolf/indie, too.

I definitely agree with you as far as Brave's claim of Luna seeming suspicious. There are far too many errors related to flavor in it to be real, and the abilities seem more scum-like than town-like. I'm interested though in why you believe Grant and Celever to likely be scum because of the abilities failing. I'm not sure if I completely understood that part, would you mind elaborating on it for me?

A black blob flew off the wizard's wand and landed on a cloud, which suddenly transformed into the Dark Mark. It created a type of veil that protected all Death Eaters along the night.

I assume this spell prevented all abilities from affecting Death Eater last night. Vom targeted Grant last night, and Brave targeted Celever and both abilities failed. Although it is possible that someone roleblocked Vom and/or Brave, I highly doubt it.

TheGuy doesn't seem too suspicious to me. Celever's case doesn't seem too great, especially since he's probably just a wolf trying to reflect attention away from him and Grant.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

That imo implies you don't have much to do here, which basically is scummy to me.

That doesn't seem very scummy to me. Scum still have plenty of reason to post in the thread.

I definitely agree with you as far as Brave's claim of Luna seeming suspicious. There are far too many errors related to flavor in it to be real, and the abilities seem more scum-like than town-like. I'm interested though in why you believe Grant and Celever to likely be scum because of the abilities failing. I'm not sure if I completely understood that part, would you mind elaborating on it for me?

A black blob flew off the wizard's wand and landed on a cloud, which suddenly transformed into the Dark Mark. It created a type of veil that protected all Death Eaters along the night.

I assume this spell prevented all abilities from affecting Death Eater last night. Vom targeted Grant last night, and Brave targeted Celever and both abilities failed. Although it is possible that someone roleblocked Vom and/or Brave, I highly doubt it.

TheGuy doesn't seem too suspicious to me. Celever's case doesn't seem too great, especially since he's probably just a wolf trying to reflect attention away from him and Grant.

Not at all. I was writing up the case, and started before Vom told us his results (and I said this in-thread). I also said WHY the action probably failed: I don't have an active ability, and BV's role that he tried to target me with only targets players who used an active ability. I've already said this twice in this thread :x

I don't know what's going on with Grant though. I already said that he's probably a Death Eater, but TheGuy is a more opportunistic target for us. What has TheGuy contributed to town discussion this game thus far? He's just been covering his own behind (like when he defended himself alongside KoN) and echoing others occasionally... He is undoubtedly anti-town, and I'm definitely leaning indie looking at his posts. He's come up with a few excuses, but none have been too great. Do you like his defense, MtC?

We can either (probably) take out a faction today, or we can just whittle down another one, and let the probable indie fade out of the lime light.

TheGuy, I'm at school and headed to a lesson now, so I can't reply to you. Expect one in about 6ish hours, maybe more.

 

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

A black blob flew off the wizard's wand and landed on a cloud, which suddenly transformed into the Dark Mark. It created a type of veil that protected all Death Eaters along the night.

I assume this spell prevented all abilities from affecting Death Eater last night. Vom targeted Grant last night, and Brave targeted Celever and both abilities failed. Although it is possible that someone roleblocked Vom and/or Brave, I highly doubt it.

TheGuy doesn't seem too suspicious to me. Celever's case doesn't seem too great, especially since he's probably just a wolf trying to reflect attention away from him and Grant.

Thank you for your elaboration, Machamp. I was able to infer this by myself, but I needed to hear it directly from you first to be sure. Your contribution will be immensely helpful to this case.

Now, I'd like to bring the court's attention to this new piece of evidence:

Tonight, I'd like to use my [Redacted] ability on Machamp the Champion.

Action Report:
[Redacted]: Machamp The Champion: Blocked.

I'm sure that everyone here is able to understand what this implies. Therefore, it's clear. Machamp the Champion, since you claimed that Grant and Celever were so likely to be aligned with the scum faction because of the previous evidence...

...you're now as equally guilty as they are! You've backed yourself into a corner, and there's no escaping justice! I request that this new evidence be added to the court record immediately.

 

[PMJ]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

I can't begin to imagine how giddy you must feel, TT.

With so many people getting blocked, the possibility of this being the doings of a roleblocker is becoming less and less likely. I think we're finally going to be hitting a break in this game, and it's actually thanks to the scum, which I find delightfully ironic.

##UNVOTE: Brave Vesperia, who is still 100% scummy but there are bigger fish to fry
##VOTE: grantm1999

 

[TwistedTurtwig]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

For the record, I do feel particularly giddy.

##VOTE: grantm1999

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Current Vote Count:

Spoiler: Vote Count

• grantm1999: 7 (bbninjas, Vom, Jeremy1026, Drohn, Keeper of Night, PMJ, TwistedTurtwig)
• TheGuy: 2 (Celever, Celever, Jeremy1026)
• Brave Vesperia: 0 (Celever, PMJ)

Notes:

• 9 votes to end the day before time, with a Lynch.
• Current lynch candidate(s): grantm1999.
• ~79 hours remain before Day ends.
• Current modkill candidates: Ice Espeon, Squirtle Squad, Wailord_2, grantm1999 & xDoggerx (If day ends before time, modkills won't be processed).

 

[Jeremy1026]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Sorry Celever, no one seems to be jumping your wagon. Thus I'm moving my vote back.

##UNVOTE: TheGuy
##VOTE: Grant

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Fair enough guys. It's the safer play.

Bye Grant!

##UNVOTE: TheGuy
##grant1999

I'm still going to get TheGuy tomorrow. He is undoubtedly anti-town, IMO.

Also yes, I know that this will end the day. I see nothing more that we can get out of today that we can't get out of Day 6, so it makes sense to me.

 

[Celever]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

uhhhh

##VOTE: grant1999

.____.

 

[Brave Vesperia]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Voting Machamp for TT's reasoning above.

##VOTE: Machamp the Champion

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Wow, that was fast.

(Mobile) Game Freeze

I'll post the update as soon as I get home.

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

Sorry for the late update. Had an unexpected family business.

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Day 4 and a half 5 Update​

Final Vote Count:

Spoiler: Vote Count

• grantm1999: 9 (bbninjas, Vom, Jeremy1026, Drohn, Keeper of Night, PMJ, TwistedTurtwig, Jeremy1026, Celever)
• TheGuy: 0 (Celever, Celever, Jeremy1026)
• Brave Vesperia: 0 (Celever, PMJ)

Everyone was startled about the Dark Mark that was upon them last night. And amongst all candidates for today's lynch, something was different about Grant. Although Celever was heavily pushing TheGuy's head into the archway, it was Grant who finally was thrown by the rest of the wizards in a desperate attempt at a hunch... Which turned out perfectly for the Order.

grantm1999 has died! He was:

Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort (grantm1999)

Alignment: Death Eaters
You are the Dark Lord. The master of all Death Eaters and the head of the operation to rule the Ministry. But of course, what you want the most, is to kill Harry Potter, to finally secure your survival.

Ability: Death Eater’s Kill
You can manage to kill everyone in the castle… But only one by one every night. Once a night, you may PM me a player name. That player will be killed. This ability will be passed down to one of your fellow Death Eaters upon your death.

Passive Ability: Horcrux Link
You and Harry Potter have a very unique connection. You’ll be alerted every time he targets you. The first time you’re to target Harry Potter for a kill, the Horcrux within him will be destroyed instead of him. As long as the Horcrux remains in Harry Potter, your vote count will be +2 instead of +1.

Affiliation: Death Eater
You are a Death Eater. You’ll all be able to talk freely with the rest of them and discuss everything in your lounge (You’ll get the link to the Quicktopic in a separate PM).

Single-use Spell: Avada Kedavra
The killing spell. You simply throw this curse into someone and they die. Once during the game at day, you may PM me a player name. That player will die shortly after.

Win Condition: The Death Eaters eliminate all threats to them.

Everyone rejoiced. They killed the Dark Lord! However, they know that the war is far from over, since his whole army is still out there.

"Wow, that was a fast and productive day, everyone!", said Fudge's ghost, happily. "Now let's have some rest, shall we?"

Night 5 has begun!

Notes:

• Night 5 will end on Sunday, January 18th, at 23:59 GMT.
• Every player that can perform an action tonight must PM me their action, even if it is "No Action".
• Current modkill candidates: Ice Espeon, Squirtle Squad, Wailord_2 & xDoggerx. These players must both PM me and post at least once in D6. If not, they will be mk'd at the end of D6, as long as 24 IRL hours passed into D6.

 

[Luispipe8]

RE: Werewolf XXIV: The Wizarding War - Day 5 ends January 18th, at 23:59 GMT

No more actions. Update coming briefly.