Finished Werewolf XXXIII: Order in the Court!- Congratulations Law!

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Note to new players, do NOT do what I did my first...3 games of WW and cite Death Note as a source on how to predict what anyone is thinking, it only ends very very badly. Try Danganronpa instead, it's a darker anime that teaches you how to build better cases against people and not sound crazy, aka how I did my first 3 games.

Also for inactivity I was working on a fing huge minecraft project last night, for about 12 hours, then went and woke up at 8 pm today...then I had to deal with my dad who I'm 90% is giving me an ulcer from stupidity.
Or you could like, not talk about anime at all. Because all of the references to it are super obnoxious and complete fluff. Contribute instead of making fluff posts. I know you're capable of it after last game, so do it.
 
Note to new players, do NOT do what I did my first...3 games of WW and cite Death Note as a source on how to predict what anyone is thinking, it only ends very very badly. Try Danganronpa instead, it's a darker anime that teaches you how to build better cases against people and not sound crazy, aka how I did my first 3 games.
I think you're better off just not talking about anime.

You did really good at contributing during Dimensional Shift and you didn't post about anime so keep doing what you're doing there.
 
I don't think I can support a Jesi lynch right now. My only read on her is that she's super overwhelmed. I've been in the situation where you get coached by your buddies a lot when you're new and it just doesn't seem like that to me. First mafia games are a lot to take in.

Panic is a natural reaction to someone in her position ("im new; why are people voting for me? i dont want to die!") and I think her buddies would tell her "yo don't panic or they'll put more votes on you". I'd be more concerned if she wasn't panicking.
 
Thanks for confirming. :)

It's not really an official term AFAIK, but at least a few players use "fluff" to denote posts that are unnecessary, that do nothing to further any sort of scumhunt (I should know; most of my posts from my first two games were just full of it).

Ah, yeah, that'd be the pressuring, which tends to happen to newer players. Sorry about that. Basically I tried to get you to reveal something you shouldn't know, or else get panicky, both of which would be scumtells.
Of course, if you're scum, you'd already know that about pressuring, as your scumbuddies would have informed you.

While I'm still much newer than most of the other players around here, I do believe that's an example of WIFOM, so I can't exactly take your word for it.
And Jabber becomes the 69th person (yes I know I'm hyperbolic here) to help Jesi play the game.

What's funny here is that this is all fluff. :>

And uh, why are you apologizing for pressuring?

I rather think we've gotten a good amount of logic. TGK's and Jesi's names, among others, have been up in the air for lynching today, while EM's hasn't even surfaced. I know he's been inactive up to now, but you don't really help the day along by picking a random name after four or five pages.
What logic have we had so far?

- We've been teaching Jesi how to play the game. There's no logical game progression there.
- You've clearly illustrated the lack of logic with TGK here:
If everyone could stop RVSing tgk for no other reason than D&D, and instead finding an actual reason or even building a case relative to this game that could help us find a scum to lynch, that'd be great. ^.^
- and why are you bringing up EM in the same way as TGK and Jesi when EM hasn't done anything yet?

That's all that's gone on today. Nothing logical of the sort. Plus the frustration demonstrated here over the lack of viable cases this early in the day strikes me as a scumtell:
If everyone could stop RVSing tgk for no other reason than D&D, and instead finding an actual reason or even building a case relative to this game that could help us find a scum to lynch, that'd be great. ^.^
(emphasis mine)

This is just weird man.

##UNGAVALSMASH: PMJ
##OBJECTION!: Jabberwock
 
Quote tags suck and garbled up my vote.

So just in case it doesn't show up when quaking/dos check thread:

##UNGAVALSMASH: PMJ
##OBJECTION!: Jabberwock
 
You guys really suck at timezones...

And for the record, I don't consider RVS and RNG the same thing.
Okay, I admit that when I read back I noticed you hadn't posted at all between the point the question was asked and my vote. BUT I waited for your reaction, which fortunately for you did not result in you voting one of the offenders.

Except then you didn't even bother to answer the question in the first place until poked again, which is highly irritating. So, I'm keeping my vote on you until I feel like taking it off.

I'd ask what fluff is, but then I'd get called out for more dumbtelling. Fluff wasn't defined in the rules and terminology.
Let me clarify my condition before people even start wondering why I'm not around for the most hot discussion later on..
There should be no need to not ask something because you're afraid of being pegged scum or want to clarify something early if you are town. You are afraid of looking scummy as scum, but that should not be your focus as town. So apart from this being [future reference] in case you continue to do this, you should stop worrying if you are town. Besides, some of us here have a nasty habit of trying to lynch certain people for dumbtelling (NOT LOOKING AT ANYONE CELEVER) and I'm planning on defending these stupid cases if people stay calm.
 
Also it is veeeery difficult to determine whether people are making votes to get reactions or because they like sheeping. Hmmmm...

Also hi Celever.
 
Jabberwock is scum. Will vote when I have more than two minutes to post
 
Also it is veeeery difficult to determine whether people are making votes to get reactions or because they like sheeping. Hmmmm...

Also hi Celever.
Also, what's future referencey about that, huh? >:L
Answer.

Also, I agree that there could well be a scum or two on Carson's wagon. This is simply because the lynch developed so early in the game that I can see it being used as an outlet for scum bussing their partner, thinking nothing would come of it.

I would like everyone voting for Carson to post reasoning as to why. I'm really interested in seeing PMJ's case on Jabber, but I also want to identify the sheep and the bandwagoners on TGK's case. I've posted my reasoning already. bb, let's start with you, as you brought the whole sheeping theory up! :)
 
Ah, no. If I wanted to explain the future reference thing, then I would have.

Also, I agree that there could well be a scum or two on Carson's wagon. This is simply because the lynch developed so early in the game that I can see it being used as an outlet for scum bussing their partner, thinking nothing would come of it.
I don't know why you think that's a real lynch tbh. You're trying to analyse it like a non early Day 1 lynch which is a scumhunting logic trap.

I would like everyone voting for Carson to post reasoning as to why. I'm really interested in seeing PMJ's case on Jabber, but I also want to identify the sheep and the bandwagoners on TGK's case. I've posted my reasoning already. bb, let's start with you, as you brought the whole sheeping theory up! :)
My reasoning to why I voted TGK? I said why (see below). :U

TGK's avoiding a question? That's standard TGK scum. ##UNVOTE VOTE: TGK
Except then you didn't even bother to answer the question in the first place until poked again, which is highly irritating. So, I'm keeping my vote on you until I feel like taking it off.
 
Ah, no. If I wanted to explain the future reference thing, then I would have.
##UNVOTE ##VOTE: bbninjas

Don't hide stuff. TGK is still scum, but you're his buddy. I'm not removing this vote until you answer, because the future reference tag has a lot of utility when you're scum too. I don't think that future reference would be posted if you're town with that post. So... what are you hiding?
 
I don't know why you think that's a real lynch tbh. You're trying to analyse it like a non early Day 1 lynch which is a scumhunting logic trap.
If it's not a real lynch, why is he halfway to being lynched (he's got like 6 votes on him last I counted) when we're like a day into the game and barely out of RVS?

Reality seems to go against your assessment of the situation here.

I agree that I don't think it's a real lynch, but I think you have to question why so many people are jumping on it when it's lacking any solid foundation (which is why it's not a real lynch).
 
##UNVOTE ##VOTE: bbninjas

Don't hide stuff. TGK is still scum, but you're his buddy. I'm not removing this vote until you answer, because the future reference tag has a lot of utility when you're scum too. I don't think that future reference would be posted if you're town with that post. So... what are you hiding?
Far out Celever - you're so predictable! This future reference stuff is because I can't be bothered to keep my own doc that lists all the scummy things everyone does. If I was bothered, I would make a doc, and keep a private list of things that I may want to look into at a later date. As such, you wouldn't have even known that I had put that down if I wasn't lazy, so stop winging and voting me because that I am not telling you what you want. (Though I guess it may be worthwhile for me to make such a doc because being me I'll forgot what my thought process was.)

I'm not removing this vote until you answer
This is a hollow threat and you know it.

/me votes Celever
/me says Celever must tell me his role otherwise I will not take my vote off you

...yeah nah.

If it's not a real lynch, why is he halfway to being lynched (he's got like 6 votes on him last I counted) when we're like a day into the game and barely out of RVS?
I thought it was 3? (Camo, me and E_M when I looked back a little while ago)

I don't consider it is real because the logic in it is terrible - I assumed that it was mainly reaction material.
 
Any reason you left your vote on SS?

Oh right, I forgot to take it off.

##UNVOTE: Squirtle Squad

D20 gogogo~

##PICHUPOCALYPSE: PMJ

I don't believe tgk forgot to remove the vote. It is also a very weird reaction. I think a townie would say "cause RVS" or something.


and the classic Celever vs Camo showdown begins.

Trying to remove attention from him.

Oh, and the whole lying thing, but I think the above points are stronger.
 
Why saying "I forgot to remove the vote, sorry" after being questioned about why he voted SS in like the beginning of RVS? That's weird for me.
 
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