What great cards arn't in the Metagame?

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What cards do you think are great, but aren't in the metagame? I like:
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Use Life drain, and then on your next turn (if you opponent didn't retreat), add a Plus Power and use Life Drain again. If they do retreat and you have 3 energies attached, attack with Shadow Dance.
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Great with Weavile SW
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Can snipe like Empoleon MD, but a little slower.
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Great combo with Weavile SW
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I think it is a good starter in a water deck
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a bench with 2/3 Aerodactyl can wreack havoc (although Dusknoir can break it up)
 
Golem is high on my list. If this format was more spread out, I could see golem recieving play. Lucario is pretty much dead and mr. mime is always going to recieve my attention.
 
You do know that a Pluspowered Life Drain does nothing, right? Considering it places damage counters and thus there's no damage dealt and thus nothing for Pluspower to increase, right?

Aerodactyl isn't played due to the fact that you can't get it nor its fossil with Fossil Excavator. Annoying drawback.

Exploud...well, hi there Gallade.

Weavile is just too slow.

Anyway, I have a liking for the DonphanSW-JumpluffSW combo. Pity Magmortar ruined it so badly last format.
 
Lou Cypher said:
You do know that a Pluspowered Life Drain does nothing, right? Considering it places damage counters and thus there's no damage dealt and thus nothing for Pluspower to increase, right?

Wrong.
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Strength Charm only does adds 10 damage, but PlusPower always does 10 more.
 
In order to add damage, you must first do damage. And can we tone it down on the jumbo cards?
 
Aerodactyl is probably one of the hardest cards to get out in history. XD If you really need lots, use Furret. 'cause Bebe's won't get you Old Amber, neither will Relicanth GE and neither can Fossil Excavator. Maybe to stop the over-use of Aerodactyls? Because 2 on a bench pretty much kills poke-powers. And judging by the success of Gardevoir SW's Psychic Lock, it seems a lot of decks rely on poke-powers! As for Weavile DP... With Darkrai Lv X and Weavile SW (and possibly Togekiss) it could start looking pretty mean (and nasty, lol)... But Tyranitar IFDS does it better. But for now... Yeah, go for it! It's not fast, though. Unfortunately, Golem's first attack is overshadowed by Empoleon MD's. BUT, it also has another decent attack... Which is very expensive. Leafeon Lv X might be a nice tech to this (to speed things up in the energy department). Gengar... Life Drain is extremely flippy. Heads, and your opponent's gonna be all, like, "Noooo!" and stuff. It's a bit like Gallade's Sonic Blade, in a way. This plus Ampharos could be nice. You reduce their HP down to 10, and then when they use a Supporter, they're doomed! Though Gengar could just use it's second attack after a successful Lfie Drain. But it's only 40 spread damage, even if you do get to spread it however you like. Way too flippy, still. Exploud is awesome. But unfortunately, because it's not consistent, you can't really make a deck around one of the four possible assets of Ambient Noise. On the plus side, your opponent has no idea, either. But man, it's a great attack. T2 Exploud could be really mean. Hey, I'm gonna try that! And yeah, it suffers from Gallade. But in Dp-On, G&G/PLOX will die down a ton. Lapras would be used so much more if it didn't require a water energy. Water decks (Like Empoleon) haven't really needed pokemon tools much. That said, any deck can put in Amulet Coin. Hmmm.

An underused tech is Bastiodon, methinks. Honestly, what Empoleon deck is going to like a complete inability to snipe. I mean, I don't think I need to spell it out, but that's awesome! Too bad Omastar can still do it's thing, though (since Bastardidon can only prevent DAMAGE... From ATTACKS. Double fail there, lol. But still awesome.

EDIT: Oh, and as for the Donphan/Jumpluff combo... I like it too. When LA gets released, I'm trying it with Gliscor (instead of the Phan, who started a club)!
 
Lou and Papi are correct. In order for Plus Power to work, you much have base damage to begin with. Life Drain does not have damage. It puts damage COUNTERS on the Pokémon. If Plus Power works for Gengar, why doesn't it work for Dusknoir? Or why can't Gallade add 10 damage when Sonic Blading?
 
There is an insane amount of Pokemon that are good, but do not see play in this format because of GG running rampant the way it is.
Exploud being by far one of my favorites, among with various others. It just isn't practical to run those kinds of cards in this current format.
Let alone at Worlds where you have to go undefeated to make it into the actual tournament.
 
TCC Co-Founder said:
How do make the cards less jumbo? lol

And for PlusPower+Gengar: Life Drain does 0 damage, and 0+10=10.

1 - You upload them to www.imageshack.us, and use the thumbnail link given.

2 - So according to your reasoning, a Pluspowered Call for Family would do 10 damage as well? No sir.
In order to add to damage, you need a base damage. Otherwise, a Lapras would take 20 damage when Pachirisu uses Call For Family, and we all know that is not the case.
 
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That first attack good. Doesnt matter what you get, you can still do some damage.

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Decent for the beginning of the game. Sort of like that new Sableye minus the supporter and plus an energy cost.

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Mmm, LV.X staller. Hard to intergrate, but mmmm.
 
Feebas as a starter? I guess if you like being behind t2 then its good. :/ Phione>>>>>>>feebas.
 
and starters are dumb in the first place

Pidgeot - SW
Ursaring - MT
Whiscash - MT
=)

AND LUMINEON - MT WOWWWW that card is seriously ownage in some circumstances
 
Oh yeah, and Exeggutor MT is scary fast with Leafeon and Sceptile. Totally underused. Also, I agree with Taylor45.
 
I love Exploud so much. It really is a great card but like so many other things it's kept down thanks to Gallade. The new Infernape is another card that doesn't get to see as much play as it deserves since Empoleon is very popular.
 
I think Venasaur SW with Exeggutor MT or Celebi Mt is a very good combo and i tried venasuar+exeguttor as a combo at battleroads and it did pretty good.
 
I wonder if the wording on Fossil Excavator and Relicanth is purposely done so to prevent Old Amber (and thus Aerodactyl) from coming out or if it's just an oversight on the translators for the English-language cards. After all, Old Amber fulfilled the exact same role as the fossils in every game it's been in, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Japanese name for Old Amber contains some word or phrase that the fossils have too that would have allowed Fossil Excavator and Relicanth to work for it.
 
With Gengar, you can't attach PlusPower if you want it to affect Life Drain, because Life Drain places damage counters, it doesn't do damage.
 
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