What If...
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I would throw in some non supporter drawers like Pokedex and play Speed Stadium then i would have to play other stadiums too ;P
I think Chatot/Jirachi/Azelf will be more widely used as well as the TM evoluter too. And big decks eg: Magmortar with Typhlosion and Arcainine will be cut because thats a lot of Pokemon with no constant drawing power.
I think Chatot/Jirachi/Azelf will be more widely used as well as the TM evoluter too. And big decks eg: Magmortar with Typhlosion and Arcainine will be cut because thats a lot of Pokemon with no constant drawing power.
Uxie LA, nuff said.
Uxie, Jirachi, Chatot, and even Bronzong MT would replace Claydol, but not entirely. None of those beat Claydol.
If our format was DS-on, then Porygon2 DS would for sure.
And by the way, Claydol will actually start dying very soon, thanks to a certain electric rat who will remain nameless.
If our format was DS-on, then Porygon2 DS would for sure.
And by the way, Claydol will actually start dying very soon, thanks to a certain electric rat who will remain nameless.
Claydol is already dying. :/ People just haven't caught up to most of the good decks going around, 95% of which answer claydol nicely. Uxie is definatley a great replacement and can easily win a game that claydol couldn't.
Wow, I just actually read Uxie and realized how good it really was. I had only read its Power before. I'm going after that card.
Uxie still can help recover from Wager...though it can't consistently. Oh well, I would rather run something that can go back to the deck rather than just sit there for sniping bait.
And in certain decks, a roseanneable draw is sooo much better then having to wait for claydol. Uxie can be used in a deck with palkia as well (btif atm).
Being a Basic really helps Uxie, too. For one, it can be searched out way easier. Two, you can save two more slots for Trainers or even another tech. And, three, it can be played on T1, and takes one less turn to get out. (Don't tell me you'll use a Candy on Claydol.)
Claydol > Uxie.
Sorry, why does Claydol have problems with being sniped and Uxie just magically doesn't, Papi?
So what if it's Roseanne-able? It's CRAP! So you get one shot at 7 cards? Big deal. Claydol consistently gets you 6, and you get to put up to 2 cards at the bottom of your deck before you do so. Uxie Lv X is worse than drawing 2 cards. Claydol gets you about 3 every turn. And plus, Lv X, albeit a basic, is annoying to get out, because it has to be active.
I'm sorry, I just don't get the fad. You can argue that Claydol might die out, and you could easily be right - But I don't see how Claydol fails and Uxie doesn't.
What would replace Claydol? Draw power trainers. Chatot, Jirachi, whatever are nice, but you have to attack with them. Claydol you don't. It's like comparing an apple with an orange. The ones that attack have better effects, but they take up a turn - Replacing something with something that functions completely differently seems strange.
Sorry, why does Claydol have problems with being sniped and Uxie just magically doesn't, Papi?
So what if it's Roseanne-able? It's CRAP! So you get one shot at 7 cards? Big deal. Claydol consistently gets you 6, and you get to put up to 2 cards at the bottom of your deck before you do so. Uxie Lv X is worse than drawing 2 cards. Claydol gets you about 3 every turn. And plus, Lv X, albeit a basic, is annoying to get out, because it has to be active.
I'm sorry, I just don't get the fad. You can argue that Claydol might die out, and you could easily be right - But I don't see how Claydol fails and Uxie doesn't.
What would replace Claydol? Draw power trainers. Chatot, Jirachi, whatever are nice, but you have to attack with them. Claydol you don't. It's like comparing an apple with an orange. The ones that attack have better effects, but they take up a turn - Replacing something with something that functions completely differently seems strange.
Ariadosguy said:
Permission to laugh?
Its not a card that can fit everywhere. But it really is a great way if you need cards, and need them FAST.
And since when is a LVX that hard to get out? Your active KO'd? Bring up Uxie, LVX it, Warp Point out. Voila.
My new deck runs the uxie engine and its 10-0 (by beach standards, a low X-0 number). lol. I don't think you quite grasp the idea of card drawing. Claydol takes ALOT of resouces to get out, and can slow a deck down by a turn. Uxie can be grabbed with roseanne's t1 and dropped whenever i see fit to draw the most cards. Uxie can heal the damaged it gets with sniping, though this only works with cards like armaldo and mr. mime. Uxie X also doesn't require me to lose any of my hand. So guess what? While you draw 2-3 cards a turn and then play a supporter and are unable to draw even 1 card next turn, I can keep the stream going for the entire match. Most decks run warp point. Uxie X isn't a must to get out right away. I usually level it up when I'm going to warp point anyways.Ariadosguy said:
Claydol fails because he takes more space, more resources, can't attack, high retreat, and is a bad start (uxie, while a waste of the power, usually equals a t2 prize draw, which is incredible today).
Chatot, like uxie, is vastly easier to get out and use. And if your not going to be able to attack that turn anyways (very likely), then using chatot is a good idea. Claydol has alot of faults that some people are taking advantage of and others are simply not realizing.
Another fault of claydol. Imagine this unfortunately common situation. You have a lone attacker and a lone claydol in your bench. Your only benched pokemon. Your opponent slaps down a warp point. Now what are you going to do?
I've seen many people lose matches, even important ones due to the fact that warp point or a switch doesn't come when you need it and the situation above is always oh-so-unpredictable. People also lose matches to sweeper decks that run starmie. Yeah, starmie LA. Don't underestimate it. Free retreat, bring-back-to-hand attack, only requires one multi energy to bring it to full use, all cowardly points that makes this card a powerful hit and run card. And claydol, uxie, gardevoir etc. are the main victims. Seeing stars?
I've seen many people lose matches, even important ones due to the fact that warp point or a switch doesn't come when you need it and the situation above is always oh-so-unpredictable. People also lose matches to sweeper decks that run starmie. Yeah, starmie LA. Don't underestimate it. Free retreat, bring-back-to-hand attack, only requires one multi energy to bring it to full use, all cowardly points that makes this card a powerful hit and run card. And claydol, uxie, gardevoir etc. are the main victims. Seeing stars?