What is the best tech against Machamp in a G Deck?

Daren

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Ok, so I'm running G's for Regionals and I'm really afraid of all the Machamp decks that might be there, I'm not too reliant on Deafen as they can just evolve manually and if they go second I'm doomed. I know Unown G is obvious but as it cant be attached with energy gain its hard to use. So far I've comen up with:

Toxicroak G
Mismagius (Also good for mirror matches and Pory-Z)
Uxie X + Lake Boundary
Unown G

Can you think of any other counters?
 
mismagius is your best bet in here, maybe 1-1-1 or 2-2-2 staraptor, machamp hurts it with 40 less damage because of it's body and resistance
 
I don't think i'll use Staraptor as it is a Stage 2, but Mismagius does sound to me like a pretty good idea, considering that it hurts Pory and Mirror fatally as well.
 
uxie+unown G is easy to fit in, you probably already have it. a toxicroak and skuntank tech can also make it really easy. (1 of each, not to hard to fit in)
 
I don't think you can afford to get rid of all of your poketools with mismagius.

I'd say unknown G is your best bet. If you know you're facing a machamp deck, don't put energy gain on your poke.
 
i wouldn't discard my tools, i'd use Mismagius' Second attack when facing Mach and it's first when facing Pory/Mirror
 
Toxicroak G is probably the best counter I've ever seen to Machamp. He fits in perfectly to G as well. Built in Unown G means you don't need it for Toxi, but you can use it for the others too. Easily splashable with Roseanne's, so I'd go with those.

dmaster out.
 
Toxicroak G and Mismagius SF are your best bet to me. Mismagius edges out Toxicroak a little, however, since you can use it in more than just the Machamp matchup.
 
toxicroak g is a good tech only if you are running lake boundary stadiums and skunktank. you use poison structure, toxicroak hits him for 60x2, 120, then 10 for poison and suddenly machamp is OHKO'd. otherwise toxicroak is a speed bump for machamp rather than a wall.
 
well, toxicroak can still be moe of a good ech, you usually run at least 1 skuntank and 3-4 stadiums (G HQ for more damage and snowpoint for more HP) so fitting in 1 toxicroak should be really easy, it also hit's for 100 da,age (including poison) and that's not saying if they evolved with G HQ in play, if they did, they die at the end of their turn. this will make it so you will get another hit on a machamp before they can even do anything.
 
Toxicroak definitely helps. Run 1-2 of those.

Unown G, baby :p. Even with the whole, "one tool at a time plx" thing it can really be beneficial against Machamp if you attach it to maybe a Honchkrow or a Dialga G with enough energies to attack without energy gain.

In an SP deck playing non-sp Pokémon is usually a bit of a bad idea. I don't like Mismagius at all. It doesn't work as well as you think it does. Plus, if you're playing Galactic's HQ, then you'd just be hurting yourself.

You should play Uxie anyway, but not Lake Boundrey. There are many better stadiums that can aid you in the matchup.
 
k, thanks for all the tips, so far, It sounds like Toxi, Unown G, and Uxie X are the way to go
 
Unown G and Smart playing. Today at league Skunktank caused me some problems when I was playing Champ.
 
Ya, Unknown G can be annoying, but unfortunately, 30, 60, 90 or 120 damage is 1 energy away.
 
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