What Would The World Be Like If Society Wasn't Superficial?

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Card Slinger J

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I mean think about this question for a second. Do you personally feel that society as we live in would be better If It wasn't superficial? Problems not getting the ideal girlfriend because she doesn't have the same interests as you because you like video games, TCG/CCG's, Anime/Manga, and the like?

Does she only care about her personal appearance, hygeine, and the apparent female gene where girls seemed to be forced to mature more than guys do? Hey it's true and you know it. Prove me wrong and I'll try to come up with my own conclusion on it.

It's like all the attractive women seem to have to act like "Barbie" to try to get a guy like "Ken" when it shouldn't always be the case at all. Whatever happened to being just yourself in society anymore? It's like people have been following a formula of superficiality since the 1950's possibly earlier.

I think that If Society wasn't Superficial we would have more female gamers around the world and believe me it's a dwindling minority that has shrunk like crazy possibly the opposite If you believe in parallel dimensions. The current generation probably doesn't even know what they're missing which is sad cause they're also following what's mainstream in terms of being popular instead of trying to diversify themselves to find their inner selves.

I'm not saying everyone is like that but you know where I'm getting at right?
 
I can tell you this now young one. Looks don't mean all. You're probably in school still and see it as this way, but in the real world outside of school walls. Women are not like that. Be confident, healthy (not fat), and be secure in your life and any woman will want you.

Edit: I see ur age. As for this topic. Not sure where you are getting your sources, but females do game. It's lack of males who respect women that cause them to deter from the hobby.
 
Er, the female gaming community is growing faster than ever and it's certainly not a minority.

Source: http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2011.pdf

I would also strongly argue that it is only recently that individuality has truly begun to shine. People have a lot of freedom to express themselves in this day and age. Think back to centuries past when this was not the case and people were often persecuted for expressing ideas and beliefs against those of whatever acted as the government.

Now, don't get me wrong. People still have a pack mentality, it's part of the human psyche. It's how politics and religion work. But I also think that it's integral to achieving a balanced society, so I'm not really against it even if it does mean putting up with a sizeable proportion of the population being "superficial".
 
I've gotta disagree with you on this one, CSJ. I think Chief Zavala is completely right -- as long as you have the right attitude, you will be able to approach any woman. While I certainly don't go around waving my arms and letting girls know I'm a supermoderator on a Pokémon forum, it's not something I've ever purposely tried to hide, and guess what: I've dated girls that don't (or wouldn't) care at all. Girls that would fit into your description of superficial (caring about their appearance, etc).

I can't speak about the apparent lack of female gamers (I myself am not a gamer), but I can guarantee that many girls love playing older systems as it brings back memories of their childhood. Personally, though, I feel that if you are complaining that not enough girls are into gaming and that they should be -- well, that's just your opinion. Maybe girls are just not into those things? I know many guys (most guys, I know actually) who aren't into them either. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions -- I doubt that every girl who doesn't like video and card games feels that way because of a social stigma. Perhaps you should try to share in a girl's interests (even if that includes caring about your appearance) so she can share in yours? Relationships are give-and-take, after all.
 
Bleh I can't stand people that only care about how they look. Girls that say "He's cute." and that's there only reason for being with someone. Then some kind of problem comes between them and he ends up being a jerk and they break up. Looks will get you no where in a relationship. I don't even give a girl the time of day if her main focus is just "how do I look today?". Who cares? I mean one day you could lose your looks and then what? Personality will be your only thing keeping you likable and if all you worried about was your outer beauty and not your inner beauty...well you got what you had coming. Personality will get you a person you can love forever and never let go...not just eye candy.

Edit: pfffffft I didn't even say anything on the gaming aspect of this lol

Most girls won't play games...that isn't a joke. They look at it as immature but if you just have them try it...they will play it with you allllllll day. Maybe it's just the girls I hang around but I can always get them to play all kinds of games with me and a group of friends. (I have seen girls totally whooping at madden...ya...no joke...). You just have to bring them out of there shells and make it fun for them...I mean if someone said hey come play this game and I'm not gonna explain anything to you and I expect you to be good...your obviously gonna hate it and think badly of all other games of the genre badly.

Also not everyone is gonna be into everything. I don't like rollercoasters...everyone calls me crazy and forces me to go on them but I hate it every time. Some people just don't have the patience to sit down and hold a controller for a period of time and do something that doesn't have much practical value...it's just how they are. People will be how they are and you can't really change that. Just be yourself and you will find someone that fits you perfectly...
 
Different. It would mean more of an emphasis on the whole human character, judgement purely on the basis of someone's personality. But the thing is, if superficiality did not have such a grip over us, then it's more than likely something else would - our instinct is to try and make ourselves seem on a par and better than others - as human beings, we would no doubt find something else to worry about that would affect others' views of us.
 
Interesting, as for me well I'd rather have the whole package or at least try to at the very least. I've always said to myself that to find the ideal girlfriend is to find someone who has alot in common with you and I truly believe that. The problem I have is that I'm too shy around certain girls. Girls should be about more than their looks but their personality and character as well too, it's not easy to find believe me. It's probably better searching the hard way than going on a dating website and get tricked like back in the days of MySpace.

I think that If Society wasn't bound by Superficiality, think of how people wouldn't be seperated from eachother around the world due to religious differences. Religion is usually alot of times what triggers global warfare and it's wrong because of how so many people die in vain, now I'm not saying Religion is a bad thing but alot of times it's hard to please everybody with it or reach a common ground. Sure we don't want to overpopulate the planet but still think of how our relationship with countries in the Middle East, China, Russia, even North Korea would be like with North America. If religious differences didn't have such a stranglehold on people think of how science could benefit mankind. What I'm saying is even If Superficiality didn't exist there is the possibility that a one world religion could have existed for a millenia.

Another thing about a Non-Superficial Society is what would happen to capitalism? would it no longer exist? Capitalism has in a sense been the backbone of America's growth as a country for decades and has spread throughout successful countries around the world like Japan, China, even Russia. Sure Communists can argue that Capitalism might be a bad thing but I'd like to know on their opinion as to why. If it wasn't for capitalism people wouldn't know what's popular to get into or go to a fast food joint, personally I think capitalism has brought forth a positive change in society in which it already has.
 
Typically the most superficial people I meet are also either the least intelligent or the most narrow-minded.

Either way, they're growing fewer and fewer. People have stopped caring about "social norms" for the most part imo. Much better than it was, say, 100 years ago.
 
If you want to meet women, stop referring to them as superficial.

This thread doesn't make any sense at all.

Girls should be about more than their looks but their personality and character as well too, it's not easy to find believe me.
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Actually, it is easy to find. Stop being so judgmental.
 
I'm surprised a girl hasn't posted here. While it is true that few girls like Pokemon, they mostly like it because of their cute looks. I got into Pokemon because of TCG, and then into VG. But at least some girls care more than just their appearances. You seem to make it sound like girls are caring about only their appearances. I don't think that is true. :)
 
Card Slinger J said:
I think that If Society wasn't bound by Superficiality, think of how people wouldn't be seperated from eachother around the world due to religious differences. Religion is usually alot of times what triggers global warfare and it's wrong because of how so many people die in vain, now I'm not saying Religion is a bad thing but alot of times it's hard to please everybody with it or reach a common ground.
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I'm sorry... give me a moment. I have to rage at the irony at this section right here. The global warfare you speak of is not a battle for Religion. Terrorists and "religious" extremists are not religious people at all. They simply use the difference in religion as justification for their action. But people - like you, as your post has implied - believe in this superficial image that the wars nowadays is truly in the name of religion. Far from it. Look closer, and it's all simply a struggle for power. Once that is revealed, it is clear that there is no justification for the war at all.

It's a shame, really. Islam isn't a half-bad religion at all.
 
Zyflair said:
. The global warfare you speak of is not a battle for Religion. Terrorists and "religious" extremists are not religious people at all.
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I have no intention to join this conversation, but I must respond to this quote. It is certainly not a battle for religion, but religion might be a part of the terrorist side as they say it is. In the Judeo-Christian Stories, the Judeo-Christian God told Abraham to kill his son. According to the terrorists, their God told them to kill millions of people. The only difference here is the amount of people dead, and the outcome (Abraham was supposedly told at the last minute not to kill his son). We are not in the war for religious reasons, but it is possible that the terrorists do what they do for religious reasons. It has turned into a struggle for power, as you say, but it could have started based on someone's God's commands. Not saying it did, but unless we get to see into the minds of the terrorists, we may never actually know. Religion does serve as a very good excuse for doing some very taboo things.


Now then, carry on. I am finding this discussion fairly interesting, and I will step in if I see it dying down without a clear conclusion. Please continue :)
 
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The only difference here is the amount of people dead, and the outcome (Abraham was supposedly told at the last minute not to kill his son).
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Abraham was commanded by God to sacrifice his son, not murder him. And it was done as a test to prove his faith in God; and he wasn't simply told to not do sacrifice his son at the last minute, the Lord provided an alternate sacrifice in the place of his son. Abraham had faith that God would provide throughout the entirety of his test of faith, and beyond this there is no other teaching to ever commit murder throughout the rest of the Bible. In fact, even feeling hatred or anger towards another human is held accountable as an equivalent sin to murder. The Islam faith, on the other hand, teaches death to all non-believers and that sacrificing your own life to be a martyr will grant you rewards in the afterlife. They believe they are called to kill anybody who does not share their beliefs.

They are nothing alike whatsoever. Educate yourself before you make a comment about something you obviously know nothing about.
 
Alright, guys -- we've kinda hit a religious tangent that is unfairly targeting followers of Islam. Let's refocus on the original topic: superficiality. If you want to continue discussion about religion, make sure it has a little more to do with the superficial.

I do agree with Captain Oats' belief that finding someone with looks and personality and character really isn't that difficult. Judge not, lest ye be judged. Have an open mind when you meet new people. Just because a woman is beautiful doesn't mean that she won't talk to you if you don't look like the "Ken" to her "Barbie."
 
I dunno what this thread is really about. I thought it was on the idea that people are more inward and concerned with their own ego, materialism, and appearance. Is it about being mad at women for not seeing how super-cool neato self-proclaimed nerds are? Are you afraid of not getting a Barbie girlfriend? (SURPRISE, POT MEET KETTLE)

Been there, done that. All of this goes away with adulthood.

It's lack of males who respect women that cause them to deter from the hobby.
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Every time I've heard a kitchen joke or something that puts down women as a whole, all I gather is that the man or boy saying it is forever alone and is so beta that he just wishes women could be under him so he could be in charge and cool -all without doing a thing.

> 2011
> "Playing videogames? Why aren't you in the kitchen?!"
> jelly that what you want romantically is your equal and maybe even better than you
 
First of all, CSJ, I would have to say that you are suffering from an extreme case of false consensus. Just because you don't see a lot of female gamers and because a few girls at your school are egotistic doesn't mean every girl in the world is like that. In fact, I think it's not even that big of a deal when it comes to looks and appearance. That's been here for centuries, and it's here to stay. It's a waste of time even attempting to stop it. Deal with it.

Card Slinger J said:
Does she only care about her personal appearance, hygeine, and the apparent female gene where girls seemed to be forced to mature more than guys do?
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I don't know about you, but I find hygiene pretty important. I don't want nasty things growing on me. To some extent, it's acceptable, and not bordering superficiality. But like I said, nbd.
 
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