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Alt. Format XY-On: M Tyranitar / Forretress

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lukinzo

Aspiring Trainer
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Pokemon
  • 3 M Tyranitar EX
  • 3 Tyranitar EX
  • 2 Yveltal
  • 4 Pineco
  • 3 Forretress
Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums:
  • 4 Professor Birch's Observation
  • 4 Professor Sycamore
  • 1 Lysandre
  • 2 Battle Compressor
  • 3 Tyranitar Spirit Link
  • 3 Mega Turbo
  • 2 Float Stone
  • 2 Hard Charm
  • 3 VS Seeker
  • 1 Switch
  • 2 Super Scoop Up
  • 4 Ultra Ball
  • 2 Forest of Giant Plants
Energy
  • 4 DCE
  • 8 Darkness Energy
Any suggestion is appreciated :)
 
Thats a cool combo your doing with this deck :)
I would personally take floatstones out and replace them with rocky helmets so you can hit harder without relying too much on forretress and scoop ups.
Then I would replace one sycamore and one birch observation with 2 pokemon club of fans since you might want to set up yvetal and a couple pinecos and this way you can save ultra balls for mega tytar and foretress.
I don t see lysandre as something really necessary in this deck since you would be OHKOing most pokemon if they have some damage on, so I would take it out and put one more switch instead.
Then, do you see hard charm as a must in the deck? Sure its nice to have reduced damage but your pokemon has already 220 HP is not like its going down that easy. I would have m tytar equipped with spirit link and rocky helmet.
If you decide to take out the charms you could add cheren or the 4th sycamore/birch or a couple bikes to help you discard more darkness energy, or a couple roller skates to help with the draw. Or one of those supporters and the 3rd switch.

To sum up my suggestions
-1 birch observations/sycamore
-1 lysandre
+2 pokemon club of fans
-2 floatsones
+2 switch
-2 hard charm
+2 rocky helmet

Let me know what you think about it
Hope it helped ;)
 
JYDeAlberto said:
Thats a cool combo your doing with this deck :)
I would personally take floatstones out and replace them with rocky helmets so you can hit harder without relying too much on forretress and scoop ups.
Then I would replace one sycamore and one birch observation with 2 pokemon club of fans since you might want to set up yvetal and a couple pinecos and this way you can save ultra balls for mega tytar and foretress.
I don t see lysandre as something really necessary in this deck since you would be OHKOing most pokemon if they have some damage on, so I would take it out and put one more switch instead.
Then, do you see hard charm as a must in the deck? Sure its nice to have reduced damage but your pokemon has already 220 HP is not like its going down that easy. I would have m tytar equipped with spirit link and rocky helmet.
If you decide to take out the charms you could add cheren or the 4th sycamore/birch or a couple bikes to help you discard more darkness energy, or a couple roller skates to help with the draw. Or one of those supporters and the 3rd switch.

To sum up my suggestions
-1 birch observations/sycamore
-1 lysandre
+2 pokemon club of fans
-2 floatsones
+2 switch
-2 hard charm
+2 rocky helmet

Let me know what you think about it
Hope it helped ;)
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First of all thank you for the suggestions! I totally agree with you about the pokemon fan club and the switches, but i prefer the hard charm over the rocky helmet because as you said i mostly OHKO everyone and the 2 damage counter sound to me like an overkill. I prefer take that -20 dmg than do 300 and over dmg.
Do you think team magma secret base is better than forest of giant plants? I mean it seems a more reliable way to put damage counter in play.
 
Team Magma's Secret Base is MUCH better than Forest of Giant Plants. You don't want to power out Forretress asap as you would rather save it for when you're about to actually KO something with Destroyer King, and Team Magma's Secret Base on its own will let you OHKO anything except for Hard Charmed Wailord EX, Hard Charmed M Tyranitar EX, Hard Charmed M Aggron EX, Hard Charmed Primal Groudon EX and finally, Hard Charmed Primal Kyogre EX.

On Hard Charm vs Rocky Helmet, well, for one, Rocky Helmet isn't XY-on so that's out, but Hard Charm makes it almost impossible to OHKO M Tyranitar and even turns some 2HKOs into 3HKOs.

That being said, you should consider some Dangerous Energy. If they attack with an EX, they get 2 damage counters...which lets you OHKO anything except those 5 specific ones I listed above.

As for 2 Damage counters being overkill, it comes out to exactly 250 damage, which isn't overkill at all. Even 3 counters (320 damage) isn't overkill as that's the point where you are guaranteed to OHKO everything in the game. After that point, yes, it's overkill.
 
I tried the dangerous energy but i found out that using properly yveltal's first attack and the mega turbo was pretty darn difficult!
I explain better, if i add 4 dangerous energy i have to remove 4 basic ones, thus discard the remaining 4 is pretty difficult.
 
You only have 3 M Tyranitars, so you don't need to run the full 4 Dangerous energy. 2-3 is fine. On top of that, you can cut down to 3 Pineco, especially if you're running Pokemon Fan Club, so you'll be down to 6 basics, not just 4.
 
I don't really think the dangerous energy are necessary, i only need 1 or 2 damage counters to OHKO almost everyone, the forretress and the secred base shoud do the work...
Thoughts on removing the 2 scoop up and adding 2 trainers' mail?
-2 super scoop up +2 trainers' mail ?
 
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