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Zebstrika-Victini EX-Jirachi EX

Elbow

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Pokemon:
  • 3-Blitzle (BC 56)
  • 3-Zebstrika (ND 48)
  • 3-Victini EX (PS 131)
  • 2-Jirachi EX (PB 98)
  • 1-Sableye (DE 62)
    12
Trainers:
  • 3 Pokemon Catcher (EP 95)
  • 3 Tool Scrapper (DR 116)
  • 2 Energy Search (BC 128)
  • 4 Level Ball (ND 89)
  • 2 Ultra Ball (PF 122)
  • 2 Silver Bangle (PB 88)
  • 2 Silver Mirror (PB 89)
  • 2 Switch (BC 122)
  • 1 Scramble Switch
  • 4 Professor Juniper (PF 116)
  • 4 N (NV 101)
  • 2 Colress (PS 135)
  • 3 Skyla (BC 149)
32

Energy:
  • 4 Prism Energy (ND 93)
  • 2 Fire Energy (BW 106)
  • 8 Lightning Energy (BW 108)

    14

The point of the deck is to T1 get out a victini with a prism or fire energy search and get a benched blitzle set up. Then get out Zebstrika and use Disconnect for 40 and the opponent can't use trainers next turn. Jirachi EX is to get out supporters, but isn't completely necessary, but I saw others using it in the deck and figured it would still be good considering it lets you search for ANY supporter. And sableye is for prism and is an obvious choice. Really want to add in a 1-1 Keldeo Float stone (at the minimum), and am not sure to keep in the Jirachi or not...Also need to add a stadium too...
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Drop the jirachi ex line down to 1, three is way to many a d becomes far to big of a risk. I would also cut the sableye because you won't have time to use junk hunt because you need to keep the item lock going from T2. I like the victini ex starter to get energy in play, but you should consider Garbodor to shut off those pesky abilities like keldeo and deoxys EX that can just ruin your day.

-2 Jerachi EX
-1sableye
-1 level ball

+2-2 Garbodor DRX
 
Cortel II said:
Drop the jirachi ex line down to 1, three is way to many a d becomes far to big of a risk. I would also cut the sableye because you won't have time to use junk hunt because you need to keep the item lock going from T2. I like the victini ex starter to get energy in play, but you should consider Garbodor to shut off those pesky abilities like keldeo and deoxys EX that can just ruin your day.

-2 Jerachi EX
-1sableye
-1 level ball

+2-2 Garbodor DRX
I do agree that dropping the line to a 1/2 Jirachi EX may be good, but I feel that the deck doesn't really need Garbodor to be good. The only deck that this deck loses to (without a fight) is Blastoise, but with many people playing VirGen it will not be the main showing. I just feel that adding in Garbodor will actually make the deck more inconsistent. Also, level balls are the main trainers of the deck. They can set up my main line and can get me any supporter I want! Garbodor would have to add to tool line for float stone.
I was also considering adding in scramble switch as the ace spec. Imgine the deck against VirGen, you have 50 dm on zebstrika and your opponent is about to set up Genesect EX next turn. SS to Victini EX, attach prism, catcher GG.
I agree with the sableye choice too, but should I make the line a 3-3 instead of a 4-4 for room?

-1 Jirachi EX
-1 Sableye
-1/1 Zebstrika
 
Zebstrika is your only attacker. Why would you drop it down to only 3? Also i cant help but think zebstrika and victini are just not a good match together. They cant use the same blend energy, and prism only works for victini. I don't really think you need to use turbo energize on zebstrika either. Since it only uses 2 energy.

You could try eevee as a secondary attacker. Leafeon and Jolteon PLF would be pretty good here. Leafeon for the blastoise match up. And Jolteon for any EXs. Its probably best to only attack with Zebstrika, though it doesn't do enough damage.

You also really want super rods. Using frail pokemon like this and only have 4 of them max, you could potentially shuffle them back into your deck for later use.

As for your ace spec i wouldn't suggest scramble switch. With only 2 energy on zebstrika, its not worth using scramble switch, especially with such low hp. You could use Computer search for more consistency. Life dew or rock guard since they can tool scrapper it away when zebstrika is attacking. Or dowsing machine, so you can lower the counts of some of your items like tool scrapper and still potentially have 3.

Also why 3 tool scrappers? What tools scare you so much that you need 3? I can see 1 in case of rock guard/life dew/G booster. Garbotoxin does nothing against your deck, so you dont need to tool scrap garbodor. As long as zebstrika is attacking, they cant even drop tools on the field, so you have even less reason to carry tool scrapper.

You may also want to change Colress for Ghetsis/Hugh. Since your item lock will break eventually with zebstrika being so frail. You can have these supporters to either shuffle the item cards back into their deck to draw more cards, or just make them discard a bunch of them until they have 5 and you draw up to 5. Most people would find Ghetsis the best choice since they cant choose what to get rid of. But i feel like shuffling it back into their deck doesn't really help you as much as it does making them discard a bunch. Sure it allows them to choose what to discard, but this way it doesn't go back to their deck allowing it to be drawn again. Hugh is good if they have colress or N in hand for a supporter, Ghetsis is good if they have a juniper.

If you drop victini, and go for something else electric, on the blend energy, or uses only colorless to attack. You can drop the prism, fire, and just go straight electric or electric blend. Allowing you to drop it down to like maybe 11-12 ish energy. Freeing up even more cards. At the same time energy search would be kind of dumb. So you can easily drop 2 of them.

My suggestion for this deck would be.

Pokemon: 13
4-4 Zebstrika NXD
2-2 Jolteon/Leafeon PLF (maybe 3-3)
1 Jirachi

Supporters: 13
4 N
4 Juniper
3 Skyla
2 Hugh/Ghetsis

Trainers: 23
4 level balls
1 Super Rod
2 Silver Bangle
2 Silver mirror
2 Switch
1 Tool Scrapper
1 Dowsing Machine/Life Dew/Rock Guard
4 Catchers
2 Virbank CIty Gym
4 Hypnotoxic Laser

Energy:11
11 Electric
 
Ivy_Profen said:
Zebstrika is your only attacker. Why would you drop it down to only 3? Also i cant help but think zebstrika and victini are just not a good match together. They cant use the same blend energy, and prism only works for victini. I don't really think you need to use turbo energize on zebstrika either. Since it only uses 2 energy.

You could try eevee as a secondary attacker. Leafeon and Jolteon PLF would be pretty good here. Leafeon for the blastoise match up. And Jolteon for any EXs. Its probably best to only attack with Zebstrika, though it doesn't do enough damage.

You also really want super rods. Using frail pokemon like this and only have 4 of them max, you could potentially shuffle them back into your deck for later use.

As for your ace spec i wouldn't suggest scramble switch. With only 2 energy on zebstrika, its not worth using scramble switch, especially with such low hp. You could use Computer search for more consistency. Life dew or rock guard since they can tool scrapper it away when zebstrika is attacking. Or dowsing machine, so you can lower the counts of some of your items like tool scrapper and still potentially have 3.

Also why 3 tool scrappers? What tools scare you so much that you need 3? I can see 1 in case of rock guard/life dew/G booster. Garbotoxin does nothing against your deck, so you dont need to tool scrap garbodor. As long as zebstrika is attacking, they cant even drop tools on the field, so you have even less reason to carry tool scrapper.

You may also want to change Colress for Ghetsis/Hugh. Since your item lock will break eventually with zebstrika being so frail. You can have these supporters to either shuffle the item cards back into their deck to draw more cards, or just make them discard a bunch of them until they have 5 and you draw up to 5. Most people would find Ghetsis the best choice since they cant choose what to get rid of. But i feel like shuffling it back into their deck doesn't really help you as much as it does making them discard a bunch. Sure it allows them to choose what to discard, but this way it doesn't go back to their deck allowing it to be drawn again. Hugh is good if they have colress or N in hand for a supporter, Ghetsis is good if they have a juniper.

If you drop victini, and go for something else electric, on the blend energy, or uses only colorless to attack. You can drop the prism, fire, and just go straight electric or electric blend. Allowing you to drop it down to like maybe 11-12 ish energy. Freeing up even more cards. At the same time energy search would be kind of dumb. So you can easily drop 2 of them.

My suggestion for this deck would be.

Pokemon: 13
4-4 Zebstrika NXD
2-2 Jolteon/Leafeon PLF (maybe 3-3)
1 Jirachi

Supporters: 13
4 N
4 Juniper
3 Skyla
2 Hugh/Ghetsis

Trainers: 23
4 level balls
1 Super Rod
2 Silver Bangle
2 Silver mirror
2 Switch
1 Tool Scrapper
1 Dowsing Machine/Life Dew/Rock Guard
4 Catchers
2 Virbank CIty Gym
4 Hypnotoxic Laser

Energy:11
11 Electric

Zebstrika should be the only attacker, even against blastoise you can 2HKO anything with the HTL you addded in. I totally forgot about Ghetsis! I think adding 2 of him would be helpful. As for Ace Spec, rock guard seems the most useful to me, Life dew is ok, but if your oppenent has 100 dm and attacks, he is knocked out...too good of an opportunity for me!
The eevee line is a waste to me, so I can't add that, as for the Victini EX, it really helps against VirGen and easy set ups, so I am not sure if I want to pass on that.

Pokemon: 12
4-4 Zebstrika NXD
2- Victini EX
2- Jirachi EX

Supporters: 13
4 N
4 Juniper
3 Skyla
2 Ghetsis

Trainers: 24
4 level balls
1 Super Rod
1 SER
2 Silver Bangle
2 Silver mirror
2 Switch
1 Tool Scrapper
1 Rock Guard
4 Catchers
2 Virbank CIty Gym
4 Hypnotoxic Laser

Energy:11
9 Electric
2 Prism Energy
 
If you only plan on attacking with zebstrika, you should add something else in to overall support your deck. 4-4 Zebstrika with maybe 2-2 Electrode with magnetic draw could help you set up and continue to stream in zebstrika. Or maybe 2-2 Musharna with Forewarn could be another option allowing you to draw a card from the top 2 of your deck. A single Lunatone could help you pick your next draw out with premonition and wouldnt take up much bench space. Clefable could also be an interesting option. Once its on the bench, all you have to do is level ball for blitzle and then flip for evolution if you need to. This way you can run like 2 super rods or something, and always have more zebstrika going.

So basically i suggest having a second pokemon line that you can just abuse the abilities since you only want zebstrika attacking anyway.
 
Ivy_Profen said:
If you only plan on attacking with zebstrika, you should add something else in to overall support your deck. 4-4 Zebstrika with maybe 2-2 Electrode with magnetic draw could help you set up and continue to stream in zebstrika. Or maybe 2-2 Musharna with Forewarn could be another option allowing you to draw a card from the top 2 of your deck. A single Lunatone could help you pick your next draw out with premonition and wouldnt take up much bench space. Clefable could also be an interesting option. Once its on the bench, all you have to do is level ball for blitzle and then flip for evolution if you need to. This way you can run like 2 super rods or something, and always have more zebstrika going.

So basically i suggest having a second pokemon line that you can just abuse the abilities since you only want zebstrika attacking anyway.

I really like the idea of a Lunatone-type bench sitter to help out...but Lunatone's 3 retreat cost is a killer and is easily catcher fodder. Is there any guy like him that could help the deck but isn't a stage one/stage 2?
 
Just need to put in more float stones. Even then if you are consistently attacking with Zebstrika. You dont have to worry about catchers.
 
I feel that switch is better due to the fact that I can be attaching bangle, mirror, or rock guard...and because I dont really see any space left for it...
 
float stone on lunatone, you were complaining about it getting catchered out...

But yes switches might be better since they are searchable with skyla or something.
 
I wouldn't play Jirachi at all. It's always a liability when you play it, and it would basically be the same if you had another Supporter. It's an easy two prizes when your strategy is to stall your opponent by not allowing them to use Trainers. I also don't think I'd play Victini just cause you don't really need the acceleration, but I suppose it's a little less donkable, so I could see playing it for that reason. Just my two cents. This with Garbodor is actually a decent deck I believe.
 
One part of this deck guys is that level ball>Jirachi EX>Supporter>Skyla. Level balls can basically get you anything in the deck (except energy)...so why not with a deck of all >90 HP pokemon! I can drop the line down to a 2-2 of Jirachi EX and Victini EX for room, but I think both are necessary for the deck. And Lunatone would be a great addition to the deck and think that float stone it can help out.
To be completely honest, I do like the idea of garbodor, but he's too slow for my liking. He wastes a lot of unneeded space in my deck and makes me add in more float stones and other tools I will not normally need. The point of this deck was supposed to be easy set-up due to Jirachi EX and Victini EX. And abilities don't really matter that much, unless the opponent's deck is Blastoise, which isn't meta due to VirGen hype, and Victini EX helps a lot with that...
With reformatting the deck I will do that sometime tomorrow...I'm too tired and will have a focused mind tomorrow to do it.
Thanks @Mora and @Ivy_Profen for your deck advice!
 
Blastoise is still a top tier deck. It is capable of taking wins off of the VirGen Decks as well as plasma decks. Reasoning being is that with BKE, it can OHKO anything and then recharge it again next turn. I think TDK is more of an issue for blastoise then VirGen. It hits harder, faster, and its main attacker isnt even an Ex.

Either way i dont know about you but i barely see anyone with Virizion or Genesect in their decks at all at this point in person. maybe when more of them get pulled and stuff, possibly. I would fear blastoise more than VirGen.
 
Gotta agree that blastoise is a major meta game deck ATM, it's also prob your worst matchup without Garbodor, considering if they deluge 3 water energy (or just manually attach it) a keldeo ex will OHKO everything in your deck. Plus, it's not plasma and if it has its abilities you cannot catcher stall anything in the deck. Plus it's not week to lightning like a lot of other water pokemon.
 
Elbow said:
One part of this deck guys is that level ball>Jirachi EX>Supporter>Skyla. Level balls can basically get you anything in the deck (except energy)

I get that. I even saw that before posting. I just still don't think its worth it. Your list looks pretty consistent for Supporters anyway. I just want you to know when I gave you my opinion of Jirachi, I took into account Level Ball. You can do with it you want.
 
Yea, im just switching to ZebGar. My deck was very inconsistent online, and I tested a few games online and ZebGarb did pretty well.
 
Thats not how the deck is supposed to work at all, if you had any suggestions please post it, but post this deck in another forum for more help please.
 
if you want suggestions you should post your new deck list on the first post. Other wise there's no way to make suggestions for your deck since you recently changed it to zebstrika garbodor.
 
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