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ZekEels for new competitor.

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Youngfire17

Aspiring Trainer
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Hey everybody! I just recently started playing the Pokemon tcg but want to start competing competitively in just a few weeks. I've been loving the ZekEels deck, and have a sample list I've been testing. Would love any feedback and suggestions!

Pokemon: 17
2 Mewtwo EX
1 Raikou EX
1 Zekrom EX
2 Zekrom
3 Thundurus
3-3 Eelektrik
1 Shaymin
1 Smeargle

Trainers/Supporters:
4 Professor Oaks New Theory
4 Pokemon Catcher
4 Eviolite
3 Professor Juniper
3 Level Ball
3 Switch
2 N
2 Ultra Ball
2 Max Potion
2 Skyarrow Bridge
1 Pokemon Collector

Energy: 13
10 Lightning
3 Double Colorless
 
3 Mewtwo is the play. I would say drop the Zekrom count to 1 at most and put in another Mewtwo.

My deck runs 4 Mewtwo, I get turn two Eelektrik set up for the rest of the game and absolutely dominate Darkrai. The -20 resistance isn't groundbreaking, not enough to not use Mewtwo in darkness matchups at all, because it can still two shot Darkrai and cen one shot it if it has 7 or more energy attached, not a difficult thing to do when you can attach 5 energy per turn. (3x Dynamotor and DCE) Increasing Mewtwo counts also increases the already good matchup against CMT.
 
Very true. I just feel then like I'll be ripping off of Kevin Nance. But I guess whatever works, works. I was wanting to run an extra Raikou and 4 Eels (cuz of catcher). So maybe 3 Mewtwo, 2 Raikou, 4 eels, and 3 Thundurus?
 
Youngfire17 said:
Very true. I just feel then like I'll be ripping off of Kevin Nance. But I guess whatever works, works. I was wanting to run an extra Raikou and 4 Eels (cuz of catcher). So maybe 3 Mewtwo, 2 Raikou, 4 eels, and 3 Thundurus?
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Well you can always oddball it like me and run four of them. Then you'll be more pro than Kevin Nance. I also love Zekrom EX, but everybody ditched that back before Mewtwo. You're still running it with certain techs like Zekrom EX so it's not a complete rip off anyway. There's a huge difference between ZekEels with a heavy Mewtwo line and MewTrick.

I'm personally not a fan of more than one Raikou, that is personal preference though. I find the best way to tell if a card is a good candidate for more than one of them is through having a few matches with it, if you find you use Raikou a lot or wish you drew into him more you could potentially run more copies based on that information. My personal preference is just aggro Mewtwo/Zekrom with catcher, it's a lot more suited to my play style. A 170 HP basic that gives up two prize cards and snipes for 100 isn't too strong in this format. Perhaps next format it'd be a lot better, 100 snipe is very powerful with Altaria and Eels running around.

A 4-3 Eelektrik line is more popularly run because Tynamos die a lot more easily than Eels. 4-4 is great in BW-On format though it could also be great for either drawing into them or being able to discard them with Juniper without the knowledge you'll never get three Eels.

Again, I'm not a fan of Thundurus. It's a card where you either run a few of them or don't run it at all, for the purpose of starting with it. I removed it due to space restrictions, though it does present an opportunity for Ultra Ball/Junk Arm fodder later on in the game. T2 eighty isn't so strong anymore, especially with Darkrai loose and possibly OHKOing your Thundurus with Dark Claw and such. 3 Thundurus is definitely a good number to run, though if you run into troubles with space and such, he'd be the guy I'd look to remove.

Maybe run one less lightning energy and add another DCE. Definitely make this move if you opt for more Mewtwo. I find so much success with taking risks on the DCE, 3 is too little for that. T1 there's a billion energy in my hand, use PONT and whiff on the DCE. Attach DCE to Mewtwo, apply early game pressure. Gotta love Mewtwo.

I also think you should raise your Random Receiver count to 2 or 3 if you can find the space, it works well in a Junk Arm and Smeargle heavy format because of deck thinning and the ability to reuse it in clutch situations. Try adding an extra Juniper too, I like 4 Juniper, 4 PONT and 2-3 N in most of my ZekEels decks.

For your space issues, four of Eviolite is a little too much, honestly. 3 Eviolite is the play and I get where you're coming from with another, but you'll be drawing into them way too often and sometimes you won't even have any attackers to attach it to.
 
Just so you know, there will be a rotation of cards before any regulated tournaments come up. Anything released before BLW will be illegal. The cards from your deck you can't use after the rotation, which is on September 1st, are shaymin, smeargle, PONT, and Pokemon Collector.
 
Milky said:
3 Mewtwo is the play. I would say drop the Zekrom count to 1 at most and put in another Mewtwo.

My deck runs 4 Mewtwo, I get turn two Eelektrik set up for the rest of the game and absolutely dominate Darkrai. The -20 resistance isn't groundbreaking, not enough to not use Mewtwo in darkness matchups at all, because it can still two shot Darkrai and cen one shot it if it has 7 or more energy attached, not a difficult thing to do when you can attach 5 energy per turn. (3x Dynamotor and DCE) Increasing Mewtwo counts also increases the already good matchup against CMT.
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Just to be curious, what do you do if the Darkrai players go for your Eelektriks? Also, my Darkrai deck (just an example) can keep up with Mewtwo Wars just fine. I think that you should focus on Zekrom early in the game so you can bait them to use their Mewtwos, because I think it's too risky to just go with Mewtwo T1/T2, even if that worked for Kevin Nance, (now a little off-topic) I think Jay Hornung could have made a play that would've won him the match (sorry if this has nothing to do with the deck).

Also, if you aren't going to Worlds you should focus on BW-On format, like said above.
 
Well, the opinion on starting with Mewtwo is highly subjective and situational. I like to apply pressure, although the consensus is only to play Mewtwo after you're up two prize cards or in response to an opponent's Mewtwo.

If they go for my Eels, they're ignoring the bigger threat which is Mewtwo. If they go for my Mewtwo I'll still have another powered up on the bench. If they have their own Mewtwo, they're at a disadvantage because I have the better energy acceleration.
 
Well, the strategy I normally use is to KO 2 Eels, than the Zekrom player will have KO'd me probably and possibly damaged another one. Now I KO their Mewtwo with my own, you KO my Mewtwo, I KO theirs and take all 6 prizes. Of course this doesn't always work if they can manage to put my Darkrai half-dead on T2, that way it can work for both sides, but I find out that Zekrom/Eelektrik often starts to do serious damage on T3 and on T2 I probably already KO'd 1 Tynamo/Eelektrik. But as I said before it can go both sides but if the Darkrai player doesn't go for the Mewtwo war to soon I think it has the advantage IMO.
 
Absolutely, it's certainly possible for either side to win. With Speed Darkrai, I often find the Darkrai user will power up Darkrai either T1 or get a few energies on it and whiff the last/Dark Patch, it's from that point that I can start applying pressure and doing decent damage. Unless the opponent is Darkrai/Hammers (which struggles in the late game due to loss of energy acceleration, no more hammers to disrupt otherwise you waste a turn attacking and invite a catcher KO on your Darkrai) where you absolutely need the Eels, or if you're in a situation with a Mewtwo war and they're revenge killing your Mewtwos and you need Dynamotor to get energy back, I find a Mewtwo start with DCE is usually the best start I can ask for besides Smeargle or Thundurus and then constantly just manual attaching DCE while also being careful not to get greedy with your Mewtwo (You always want the minimum to KO their Pokemon, get greedy with Shaymin and you could have your opponent come back with Mewtwo DCE. Having just a DCE or a DCE and 2 lightning is usually the safest route.) is more than enough.

Or you could just ditch Eels completely and go for the T1 80 with Celebi/Mewtwo (something missing?) and 4 Mewtwo haha. That's my favourite deck ATM, but Eels has better energy acceleration, it's just slower.
 
Agree. Speed Darkrai isn't that great against Mewtwo when it has Eels by its side.
Hammertime is good but it has a hard time against Zekrom/Eelektrik with Mewtwos. In fact, IMO Darkrai decks should run at the minimum 2 Mewtwos, otherwise Eels will win most of the time if the Darkrai player can't deny them the Eelektriks.
I think most of these matches (Darkrai VS Eel) often comes down to whether the Darkrai player can apply pressure on the Tynamos early enough or not.
 
Thanks guys for using this thread to discuss deck strategy! It actually really helps me to think and get ideas for deck building.
 
Here's what happens when you go for Eels and ignore the greater threat, Mewtwo. 1 Eel left, I set up 4 during the game, 3 got killed. I'll admit, I was faced against a bad player, but this goes to show that with a single DCE and Mewtwo, I swept an entire Darkrai team because the entire time was spent catchering Eels when they weren't focusing on Mewtwo. Mewtwo can thrive on DCE when its opponent ISN'T mew two. Mewtwo can't survive the Mewtwo war with DCE alone when you are in a Mewtwo war, because you need the send up other charged Mewtwo revenge KO, something you can't do when the other person targeted Eels. It wasn't much of a Mewtwo war though, no Shaymin was dropped and he hardly tried to attach to it, he focused on Darkrai. Just an easy 2 prizes really.

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I hope this proves that mew two is an especially strong play in a metagame full of Darkrai variants prancing about.

ALL YOUR MEWTWO ARE BELONG TO US. YOU ARE ON THE WAY TO DESTRUCTION.
 
He is using Playtcg.me. To use it you have to make an account on BebeSearch (just google it) and then make a decklit there. Then you login on playtcg.me with your bebesearch account and start playing. It's great for testing.
 
i think u shoul run 1 mewtwo and a tornadus ex and raikous, that is good against a fighting matchup which this deck looks unprepared for
 
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