Zoroark and Umbreon

[Joefish19]

Here's the list I have:

Redshark 4.00 Deck List
Date: Mon Jul 4 00:36:11 2011

Name: UmbreArk
Comments: HGSS-On; testing

TOTAL CARDS: 60

POKEMON: 15
Stage 1: 6
3 : Umbreon, UD-10
3 : Zoroark, BW-71
Basic: 9
1 : Tyrogue, CL-36
3 : Eevee, UD-48
3 : Zorua, BW-70
2 : Cleffa, Promo-112

TRAINERS: 31
Trainers: 17
3 : Pokemon Communication, BW-99
2 : Revive, BW-102
4 : Pokemon Reversal, GS-99
2 : Junk Arm, TM-87
4 : Dual Ball, CL-78
2 : Lost Remover, CL-80
Supporters: 14
2 : Professor Oak's New Theory, CL-83
2 : Professor Elm's Training Method, CL-82
2 : Sage's Training, CL-85
1 : Judge, UL-78
1 : Seeker, TM-88
1 : Twins, TM-89
1 : Fisherman, GS-92
3 : Pokemon Collector, GS-97
1 : Black Belt, TM-85

ENERGY: 14
Special Energy: 8
4 : Double Colorless Energy, GS-103
4 : Darkness Energy (sp), CL-86
Basic Energy: 6
6 : Darkness Energy, BW-111


The idea is to get out Zoroark asap, wall with umbreon's moonlight fang attack if needed, refresh my hand with cleffa, and use tyroge for early ko's (thanks to #1weavile for cleffa and tyroge suggestion). I just am having trouble getting out energies from the deck. Any ideas? The trainers and supporters could probably be simplified, but i don't know what to replace those cards with.

 

[Rusty Sticks]

Ummm...why do you have Lost World in there?

 

[#1weavile]

I would take out the pichu because cards like pokemon collector and pokemon communication can easily get you these cards. Pichu also, unfortunately, helps your opponent. I would take both pichu out for 2 cleffa instead to help with drawpower. I would also take out 1 zoroark simply because you only have 3 zorua. Add in a tyrogue to help with early KOs against baby pokemon. This will help the pokemon line a bit.

For the trainers, I highly recommend
3-4 pokemon collector
3-4 pokemon communication
remove pokeball, bill, lost world
Add in 2 more dual ball, 2 professor oaks new theory

This will help you to draw the cards needed when you need them.

 

[Joefish19]

I would take out the pichu because cards like pokemon collector and pokemon communication can easily get you these cards. Pichu also, unfortunately, helps your opponent. I would take both pichu out for 2 cleffa instead to help with drawpower. I would also take out 1 zoroark simply because you only have 3 zorua. Add in a tyrogue to help with early KOs against baby pokemon. This will help the pokemon line a bit.

For the trainers, I highly recommend
3-4 pokemon collector
3-4 pokemon communication
remove pokeball, bill, lost world
Add in 2 more dual ball, 2 professor oaks new theory

This will help you to draw the cards needed when you need them.

Thank you for your advice. I will update the decklist and try it out.

 

[Joefish19]

Does anybody have any more ideas?

 

[tyrannitar trainer]

Here are my reccomendations.

+2 Proffessor oaks new theory (You need much better draw power in this deck)
+3 Pluspower (so when you foul play a reshiram or zekrom you can ko it)
+2 Pokemon Collector (to fill your bench)
-1 Judge (pont is better)
-1 Blackbelt (do you plan on losing early With tyrouge)
-2 sages training (bad card)
-1 Fisherman (you dont need this in your deck)
-1 Seeker (you do not need this in this deck also)
-1 twins (do you plan on losing early? and only one twins isnt consistent)

 

[Shiny Shinx]

Don't run Umbreon. It just doesn't do well anymore. Abilities screw it up. I would run maybe a 2-2 Weavile UD, or 2-2 Sharpedo TR (flippy, yet so underrated).

~SS

 

[Joefish19]

Here are my reccomendations.

+2 Proffessor oaks new theory (You need much better draw power in this deck)
+3 Pluspower (so when you foul play a reshiram or zekrom you can ko it)
+2 Pokemon Collector (to fill your bench)
-1 Judge (pont is better)
-1 Blackbelt (do you plan on losing early With tyrouge)
-2 sages training (bad card)
-1 Fisherman (you don't need this in your deck)
-1 Seeker (you do not need this in this deck also)
-1 twins (do you plan on losing early? and only one twins isnt consistent)

Thanks for your input. I've updated the decklist in the first post with (most of) your suggestions. I couldn't add 2 collector because I already had 3 in the deck, I added an extra tyrouge instead. I also kept the judge to disrupt the opponent, can really be bad for decks like reshiboar that count on having energy-retrieving cards and energies in-hand and not shuffled back into the deck.