Zoroark Swarm How to Deal With It

Just be more consistent than it. attack with Zekrom and always try to OHKO Zoroarks. I doubt its something to be worried about because it is WAY overhyped.
 
Cartman10211 said:
I love playing zekeels but I'm scared of zoroark swarm from de. What can I do to deal with it?
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A tech Terrakion could be the answer but I'm not 100% sure how adding it would effect your consistency.

also there's the ability to mix up your attack strategy and focus on using the regular Zekrom to avoid loosing 2 prizes.

I'm currently being told to suggest Stunfisk as well due to it being a fighting type that uses electric energy and it can 1 shot a zoroark. ( but thats more of a long shot)
 
Anything really. I don't see what people like in Zoroark. It's a prize trade, but you have easily rechargable basics, and they have a Stage 1 that needs a full bench and either a DCE or an unsearchable trainer.
 
Very true. If you want to know how to deal with it, people have been teching Terrakion in Zekeels for a while. Just use that.
 
Terrakion wouldn't really do anything more than Zekrom would do, it's just more clunky. The both OHKO Zoroark and get OHKOed back.
 
2 words:

Lost Remover.

If you take out Zoro's energy, they have no chance to keep up. Other than that, just play a consistent build. And take out Darkrai EXs.
 
just use zekrom

its a 130 hp basic that does 120 damage vs 100 stage 1 that also does 120 damage

even if you have to do 40 to yourself every turn, your still using a basic to trade prizes with a stage 1, they are more likely to run out of steam first
 
thank you everybody and I was also wondering what to do against an empoleon/groudon ex deck because my friend is running it and says that it can easily beat zekeels
 
I don't know about that. Just hit for weakness and if Groudon EX is too much trouble to 2HKO you can use Virizion NV.
 
Cartman10211 said:
thank you everybody and I was also wondering what to do against an empoleon/groudon ex deck because my friend is running it and says that it can easily beat zekeels
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You don't have to believe everything you hear. Just take out the Groudons and the Empoleons will come crashing down due to weakness. Without energy acceleration, if you don't let them keep energy on the board, they will lose.
 
A prize exchange with Zoroark against ZekEels? I doubt that I think everyone is forgeting about the Foul Play Zoroark which plays a big part of Zoroark Swarm. Lets look at why it's so dangerous. Zekrom EX, the big basic of ZekEels, can be OHKO'd by T2 easily. Terrakion the counter, if you will, to the deck can only revenge KO Zoroark, however a second Zoroark DE can take care of him. Thus making the prize count 3 to 1 in favor of Zoroark. You might say, but you need to use a Sp Darkness energy and a pokemon tool that can't be searched, however the Sp Darkness energy can be searched for and with 4 copies of Dark Claw drawing into one with a draw supporter isn't that tuff.
 
DeepSleepDarkrai said:
Zekrom EX, the big basic of ZekEels, can be OHKO'd by T2 easily.
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wait how?

and its not zekrom ex you have to worry about, its zekrom
he ohkos zoroark (both of them) while both needs a boost to ohko it, unless it bolt strikes first, which means its taken a prize
 
Spidy said:
wait how?

and its not zekrom ex you have to worry about, its zekrom
he ohkos zoroark (both of them) while both needs a boost to ohko it, unless it bolt strikes first, which means its taken a prize
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Well to anwser the first question of how: T1 Zorua and Sp Darkness Energy Ascension for Foul Play Zoroark. T1 ZekEels non attacking turn. T2 Attach another energy and Dark Claw Foul Play Strong Volt For 180 OHKO and 2 Prizes. Now as for non EX Zekrom, Zoroark out speeds and outlasts it not to mention that Zoroark Swarm Runs Darkrai EX.
 
you said easily, thats possible, but not always that easy

and zekrom ex is a bad start to begin with

and how does a stage 1 outspeed and outlast a basic that can ohko it? when it cant ko it without help
 
A stage 1 in no way outspeeds a basic. This entire matchup is a prize trade, they both OHKO and get return KOed. The reason that Zoroark loses in the prize trade is because Zoroark is a stage 1. And once you waste resources setting up Darkrai in one turn (anything else and I will just Catcher it) what are you going to do with it? It's not like I'm going to have 30hp Tynamos just laying around. It can't even KO and Eviolited Zekrom.
 
Spidy said:
you said easily, thats possible, but not always that easy

and zekrom ex is a bad start to begin with

and how does a stage 1 outspeed and outlast a basic that can ohko it? when it cant ko it without help
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1 way it outspeeds is the fact that Zekrom needs 3 energy to attack and if you say it has eels then the fact it's a basic is a lack luster point. You say it can't KO without help. The deck is designed to use Sp Darkness Energies and Dark Claw to boost attack heck even pluspower can be used. I could use the point that Zekrom can't beat any deck without Eeletrik or Pachirisu/Shaymin.

alexmf2 said:
A stage 1 in no way outspeeds a basic. This entire matchup is a prize trade, they both OHKO and get return KOed. The reason that Zoroark loses in the prize trade is because Zoroark is a stage 1. And once you waste resources setting up Darkrai in one turn (anything else and I will just Catcher it) what are you going to do with it? It's not like I'm going to have 30hp Tynamos just laying around. It can't even KO and Eviolited Zekrom.
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Your right you probably won't have any 30hp Tynamos but lets not forget that Eeletrik only has 90hp and Darkrai just happens to do just that. Catcher is a twoway street that anyone can use.
 
Zek can be charged up easily with Eels

Zoroark DE KOs Thunderus with 2 energy
send up tynamo
draw
bench zekrom BW
double dynamotor
attach
retreat
KO

Dark deck's turn
send up zorua
attach
draw supporter
evolve
pass

Zek's turn
draw
bolt strike

To the point, Zekeels is much more fast and consistant.
 
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