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Garbodor is the only thing that I've found really hinders greninja in the current format but I've found that talonflame starts don't struggle too badly with it as aero blitz has enough flexibility to allow you to lysandre each turn and does enough damage to put into moonlight slash range but it...

Just curious if anyone is still running trevenant+keld in donphan builds. I've found it to be quite iffy against seismitoad which is already an issue for donphan decks as if you want to have a decent chance in the game, you need to get out keldeo with a floatstone as well as both phantump and...