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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    Definitely. Looking forward to building around some of these new toys. :f Bibarel gets Swords Dance and Aqua Jet now. This seems minor when you consider Biberal is doomed to early rodent syndrome with bad stats, but remember it has SIMPLE. Two STAB priority moves and the ability to reach almost...
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    First they nerf paralysis, now burn. Can't wait until gen 8 when toxic does set damage. I feel bad for overlooking Dodrio's increase to the benchmark 110 Speed. Turns out it also has gained access to Swords Dance and Jump Kick. Reminder that this bird also has access to Brave Bird, Return...
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    It was also one of the best checks to non-Sub CM Keldeo before these changes. Among other things it can check or counter include Manaphy, Heatran, Scizor, and Volcanion.
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    Don't sleep on the stat buffs, even if some of these will only affect lower tiers. Mantine, which has always been a special counterpart to Skarmory, has recieved a +20 boost to HP and access to Roost. This puts it at 85/40/70/80/140/70. Its biggest problem since its introduction has been its...
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    Unaware only works when you are attacking. RIP in peace Quagsire
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    Z-moves: Changes: You can find stats, abilities and movepools on this channel. (Normal) Pokemon I think might see use: Event legends: Thoughts on Tapus: Thoughts on Ultra Beasts:
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    They really went all out to make everything slow. Inciniroar is hilarious in the way its Speed drops off a cliff. At least it's decently distributed and not all dumped into offenses like a certain starter we got this gen. Primarina looks good, but its a shame it doesn't have recovery...
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    (estimated) stats and other information from the early leaks we've got, information is from 4chan and Smogon:
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    Thunderwave's accuracy has dropped from 100 to 90. There's been a concentrated effort to nerf paralysis these past two generations. It never seemed like too much of a problem compared to other statuses. Just noticed an indirect buff: Accelgor. It has access to Water Shuriken, but lacked a way...
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    Yes, Parental Bond was nerfed to 25%. Aurora Veil is the scariest move in my opinion. It's basically Light Screen and Reflect rolled into one move. I've seen some speculate that it's Popplio's signature move, but that doesn't mean it can't be given to something else. Give this thing to Latios...
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    I guess I should rename the thread title soon so it's less misleading. It probably would be a good idea for someone to create a thread in the casual forum for all the leaks that drop.
  12. PG24

    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    New moves: Mined shinies don't really give us much to discuss for competitive play. ; )
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    Paralysis has apparently been nerfed. It now reduces speed to 50% as opposed to 25%. Example given was that a paralysed Greninja with 130 speed was able to putspeed a 58 Speed Pikachu but was outsped by a 67 Speed Pikachu. Anyone with the demo willing to confirm? Apparently Game Freak didn't do...
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    Strategy S&M Data Mining Thread

    This post will be updated as more information is found in the demos. Everything will be kept in spoiler tags to keep those who wish not to be spoiled safe. Keep this thread competitive; casual discussion has its own forum. [21:47] <&SciresM> unavailable pokemon have been stubbed out using...
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    Pokémon Thoughts on Silvady : a Non-Legendary Arceus?

    It's shown in the trailer at level 53 outspeeding a Scyther at level 51. If we're to assume both IVs are the same, this would mean that Silvalley has at least 101 bases speed (or 100 bases speed). If Scyther is maxed out at 31 and Silvalley is at 0, it's at least 117 (or 116 in a tie). If...
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    Pokémon Thoughts on Silvady : a Non-Legendary Arceus?

    "Once released from that heavy mask, the Pokémon’s speed increases substantially." It's not going to have 90 or even 100 base speed based off that description. It's also probably not going to have an equal stat spread since they signal out its Speed. While blurbs can be exaggerated, keep in...
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    Pokémon Passimian & Oranguru - Competitive Discussion

    Smeargle can have psuedo-Telepathy if it gets Evasion boosts from Moody. : o I agree that Telepathy could be an the main driving point for Oranguru to see use, but I think that people are mainly going to use Instruct for things like Mega Mom's PuP. You also have moves like Hyper Voice and Rock...
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    Pokémon Passimian & Oranguru - Competitive Discussion

    Oranguru's viability in any doubles format diminished the moment its gimmick was revealed to be a move. Now Smeargle gains access to it to add to its growing utility. Unless you really want Telepathy over Smeargle's vast advantages, I don't see any reason for it to take up space on your field...
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    Strategy What Do You Think is Missing In The Current Physical and Special Moves?

    nothing Physical attackers face the most outside factors to neuter them, such as burn, confusion and Intimidate. This assumes that physical attackers are put at a greater disadvantage, but that's not the case because Physical attacks are often far more reliable. Compare Close Combat and...
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