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Hello all. I am back again with multiple updates to my old Ice Rider list from almost exactly 1 year ago. Even though Ice Rider is far from Tier 1, I think with the right match ups and some good piloting it can still survive against Arceus VSTAR and Mew VMAX and be a fun locals suprise deck...

I think the 4/4/4 line works really well, but as you probably have noticed from my choice of going with Nessa, I am more concerned about prizing than perhaps most other people are. I have considered swinging the ratios to 3 quick shooting 1 shady dealings inteleon, but that makes things more...

When I say extra copies I don't necessarily mean I feel the need to actually play 4 VMAXes or 5 Inteleons in a game, but like the previous example of if I prized 2 of my VMAXes and I only have 1 copy to work with, Nessa lets me grab it back. Or if I simply don't see the copies when I need them...

That's a fair point. I do categorize myself as an advantage player in most scenarios. I see the ability to go +7 (or +8 if double shady dealings inteleon) off of Nessa and unlimiting myself to technically +1 more copies of every Pokemon in my deck as invaluable, especially against single prize...

Leon is a cool tech for sure that I respect, but I make up for no Leon by having a full 2/2 of shady dealings & quick shooting Inteleons while most lists I see run 2 shading dealings Inteleon & just 1 quick shooting. Having the option to layer 40 damage instead of 20 every turn is pretty massive...

Been a while since I checked back on this. Glad that my thoughts were helpful. Of the new advice, I will be dropping 1 evo incense and I'll actually be adding in a Scoop Up net in its place. Scoop Up Net is both a switch card (situational) and allows me to tag out from the search inteleon to...

"I am going to be responsible with my money!" -sees Nessa binder- "Okay maybe we'll try to be responsible with our money in September instead."

Bumping the thread as I have made some very significant changes after doing some more research, including researching winning Japanese deck lists and adapting them for our post rotation.

I don't see how this is any different than things like "Will Milotic V see any play?" or "Will Centiskorch VMAX see any play?" This isn't a problem exclusive to V-UNION. It's just simple meta calls and what level people want to play at (full casual, local, regional, etc). Now that we have Shadow...

As with most things I like to look at both the good side and the bad side, because focusing on just one or the other is tunnel visioning and often leads to ignoring the other side. -Don't think anyone is looking forward to pulling 4 pieces of a Pokemon. Not only are the individual cards...

Hi Dark Espeon, glad to see you're still around and thanks for the feedback. I've seen other Ice Rider Calyrex decks not run any Nessa, so I do believe I am technically hindering myself by running the card, but since it's what I want to play in the deck that's a limitation I'm putting on myself...

Hello all. It's been a long while for me and am debating picking up a deck after rotation since LGSs in my area don't have locals yet due to the pandemic. As a bit of a Nessa fan I wanted to play something water (that includes Nessa) that would be at least somewhat decent. This is something...

Been a while since I've done one of these or been around the forums in general, but now that the TCG has confirmed cards of my favorite Pokemon and my favorite Trainer, it's time to come back out from the shadows a bit. Want to foreword that this is just meant to be a fun, casual deck. I'm not...

I have arrived late to the party after learning that Milotic V is a thing now. Only deck I'll be building/playing until it rotates out regardless of meta viability.

There's always room for V/V-MAX Eeveelutions.

My bad, meant Umbreon and Darkrai (the dark lance attack that hits 60 to a GX or EX). Was thinking of that Tag Team and Espeon and Deoxys at the time of writing this up I think. I fixed it in the original post, thanks.

Rainbow Flower is a..hm. Well let's just say there aren't going to be very many OHKOs on Tag Team GXs anymore and this is going to probably create an interaction of people playing Rainbow Flower and Chaotic Swell to prevent Lysandre Labs from messing them up.

Mallow & Lana seems fine but I'm not super sold on it. I think the healing amount by itself isn't really good enough and you would really want to couple it with something like Great Potion before you play this in order to really heal an amount that would prevent the Pokemon you're trying to...

That Piplup though. "Throw me in, coach!"

Perhaps I'm jumping the gun on this a little bit since Alter Genesis isn't even fully revealed yet and errata can, but I want to imagine I'm not the only person thinking about how the GX/Tag Team era of the TCG is going to clash with the upcoming V/V-MAX era of the TCG. The main thing I want to...