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RE: Why do people hate so much the 5th Gen? I totally agree, I hated the staters at first, but now I really like them, My top 5 Gen pokemon are: 1) Gen 2 2) Gen 1 3) Gen 3 4) Gen 5 5) Gen 4

I like the New Joy, suits since it's a new region and all, I can always watch the old seasons on dvd anyways to see her.

Dragon/Ice would do great for me, (=.

My first shiny besides the Red Gyrados, was my Shiny Trecko (Now Sceptile), I just started the game BAM I got a Shiny Trecko, :D.