(1) ‘CoroCoro’ Leaks, Confirms Mewtwo’s New Forme [4/12]

11:35 of my reaction.

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eal4fep7pK4[/video]

Seriously? Why does Pokemon have to do this to me? It would be fine, 'cause I could just deny it's complete existence, but unfortunately, due to the new Pokemon hype, they will make a card of it and make it broken so everyone will play it. It's like they want to force people to like it, which I (obviously) do not. At all.
 
Mewtwo was my favorite Pokémon when I started playing in Generation 1. Back then, it was my "Arceus," something I drew constantly and thought was the coolest thing in the world. That didn't change until Arceus came into the mix, and even then I always thought Mewtwo was an awesome Pokémon.

This forme doesn't make me like it less, at all - in fact, it may make me like it more. I love that they're trying to constantly change the way we think about Pokémon, whether it's in the middle of a Generation (Deoxys, Giratina, Kyurem) or five Generations later (Mewtwo). For me, it keeps things interesting and expands the possibilities available for the Pokémon. Sure, Mewtwo had a pretty awesome legend / backstory already. But this forme allows its story to continue and evolve - it creates a new chapter that will forever exist in Pokémon history.

(The only thing I ask is if this forme changes its stats, make it worthwhile and not wasted.)
 
jynxed said:
To the person who said something about how this gen is doing badly with formes: this is literally the only forme we've seen for Gen 6 so that makes zero sense.

It's also the only form we've seen so far for Gen 6. At all. So yes, you cannot make a value judgment on Gen 6 based off of a single form.

I will probably just disregard Newtwo completely and go about the game as I normally have. There is nothing forcing you to play with Newtwo.

...okay I'll rephrase that. There had better not be. If there was, that would not be fair to anyone, likers and haters alike.
 
Phoenix EX said:
Maybe Groudon & Kyogre will get new formes too for the Gen 3 "enhanced" remakes. I mean, why not right?

I would hope. An Ice-type Snow Warning Kyogre would be not so great but a Rock-type Sand Stream Groudon would be ridiculous with that added SpD boost. This is what I'd want for the formes, at least.
 
jynxed said:
Phoenix EX said:
Maybe Groudon & Kyogre will get new formes too for the Gen 3 "enhanced" remakes. I mean, why not right?

I would hope. An Ice-type Snow Warning Kyogre would be not so great but a Rock-type Sand Stream Groudon would be ridiculous with that added SpD boost. This is what I'd want for the formes, at least.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
omg this would be ludicrously awesome. I actually wouldn't be adverse to this at all...though I know it probably won't happen.
 
> this thread
> mfw

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Your tears are yummy, everyone, keep 'em comin'

I, for one, welcome our new Mewtwo overlord.
 
I think more people should actually be upset with how they are morphing Pikachu into a roundheaded, bulimic thing. I thought they were done when they made it skinny, but now its getting a new head shape... ugh. THAT is ruining a Pokemon because you cant just ignore the new design. You can ignore forms however.

Except Cherim's awful default form. You can rarely ever ignore that one.

For the record, I think the new "cuter" version of Pikachu actually looks stupid, but I dont care enough because I dont really like Pikachu anyway lol
 
evilpacman said:
I think more people should actually be upset with how they are morphing Pikachu into a roundheaded, bulimic thing. I thought they were done when they made it skinny, but now its getting a new head shape... ugh. THAT is ruining a Pokemon because you cant just ignore the new design. You can ignore forms however.

Except Cherim's awful default form. You can rarely ever ignore that one.

For the record, I think the new "cuter" version of Pikachu actually looks stupid, but I dont care enough because I dont really like Pikachu anyway lol

Are you talking about the Pikachu they have on the Worlds posters and C-Gear? o_O

Cuz most of the official sugimori artwork the head is still pretty square-like. The actual artwork from FRLG seems rectangular-ish because of the angle.
 
ECHOxLegend said:
Zielo said:
Arceus, Lucario, Entei, Darkrai, Jirachi, Keldeo, Cobalion, Virizion, Terrakion, Kyurem and Mewtwo are the only ones to talk out of a butt load of Legendaries.

You forgot Lugia, Shaymin, Zorua (while not a legendary), Victini, Reshiram, and Zekrom. Dude, thats hardly an "only" out of the buttload of legendaries there are in movies. There are 16 movies as of now, after all.. The Latias/Latios and the Celebi movie are the only ones where no legendaries talk I believe. o_O
 
^The deoxys movie too, I believe. Rayquaza only roars and I'm sure Deoxys doesn't make a single sound actually... And if I'm not wrong, in the Manaphy movie, Manaphy only makes a few word-like sounds...
 
Setosama said:
evilpacman said:
I think more people should actually be upset with how they are morphing Pikachu into a roundheaded, bulimic thing. I thought they were done when they made it skinny, but now its getting a new head shape... ugh. THAT is ruining a Pokemon because you cant just ignore the new design. You can ignore forms however.

Except Cherim's awful default form. You can rarely ever ignore that one.

For the record, I think the new "cuter" version of Pikachu actually looks stupid, but I dont care enough because I dont really like Pikachu anyway lol

Are you talking about the Pikachu they have on the Worlds posters and C-Gear? o_O

Cuz most of the official sugimori artwork the head is still pretty square-like. The actual artwork from FRLG seems rectangular-ish because of the angle.

Yeah. I dont like what they are doing with it. If the official artwork is still pretty normal, then I guess thats good lol
 
I'm interested in seeing how a new Mewtwo form(e) will play out although I have concerns that if it is man-made and related to genetics then the plot will turn into just another crime organization trying to create a new Pokemon that is then used against the player in a feeble attempt to do something that is never really motivated or fully explained. If this turns out to be true then I can see the return of Team Rocket, who created the damn abomination in the first place initially tried to alter him some way, returning to screw with it even more.

Furthermore since it is a new form(e) then surely it would have the ability to distinguish and change between form(e)s. This also raises my fear of a Deoxys clone because of the speculation that it looks speedy and that's one observation I kind of agree with. I still hate it and it's fingers that look like alien sausages being pushed through a hole and the stupid head and it's laughably non-intimidating glare and horns it would use to fight off other Mew+ to become the alpha male and the Adam's apple in its chest but if it has some decent backstory to it then I at least won't hate its design.

EDIT: I should stop giving this pile of trash Pokemon a chance. I keep forgetting it was essentially made for the movie.

Xous said:
This forme doesn't make me like it less, at all - in fact, it may make me like it more. I love that they're trying to constantly change the way we think about Pokémon, whether it's in the middle of a Generation (Deoxys, Giratina, Kyurem) or five Generations later (Mewtwo). For me, it keeps things interesting and expands the possibilities available for the Pokémon. Sure, Mewtwo had a pretty awesome legend / backstory already. But this forme allows its story to continue and evolve - it creates a new chapter that will forever exist in Pokémon history.

There comes a point where they are just combing over older things so they can exploit them. I am often trying to look for reasons why a Pokemon can evolve in later generations and not earlier ones and I'm just looking for answers that don't exist. There are a few excuses that I could buy like a Rhydorn not being able to evolve before gen IV because the item wasn't around and Mewtwo couldn't transform because it only could happen through recent events. But there are others which GF pulls out of nowhere which reinforces the point that they are running out of ideas (as cliché as it sounds, it can be justified) because they can't properly give a reason why a certain Pokemon could not evolve before given certain conditions but can now through the exact same conditions.
Examples: Lickitung, Piloswine.

Overall I believe going back over previous generations without a real excuse is incredibly lazy and it is now almost expected.
 
Rayquaza only roars and I'm sure Deoxys doesn't make a single sound actually...
Deoxys does make noise, but it sounds like speakers.
Well, something like speakers. I'm not quite sure how to describe it.
 
Reggie McGigas said:
Guys, what if the new evil team captures mewtwo and tries to make improvements, and ends up with our new forme?

That's exactly what I think will happen. I doubt Mewtwo's been able to change formes this entire time for no discernible reason.
 
Delta said:
Xous said:
This forme doesn't make me like it less, at all - in fact, it may make me like it more. I love that they're trying to constantly change the way we think about Pokémon, whether it's in the middle of a Generation (Deoxys, Giratina, Kyurem) or five Generations later (Mewtwo). For me, it keeps things interesting and expands the possibilities available for the Pokémon. Sure, Mewtwo had a pretty awesome legend / backstory already. But this forme allows its story to continue and evolve - it creates a new chapter that will forever exist in Pokémon history.

There comes a point where they are just combing over older things so they can exploit them. I am often trying to look for reasons why a Pokemon can evolve in later generations and not earlier ones and I'm just looking for answers that don't exist. There are a few excuses that I could buy like a Rhydorn not being able to evolve before gen IV because the item wasn't around and Mewtwo couldn't transform because it only could happen through recent events. But there are others which GF pulls out of nowhere which reinforces the point that they are running out of ideas (as cliché as it sounds, it can be justified) because they can't properly give a reason why a certain Pokemon could not evolve before given certain conditions but can now through the exact same conditions.
Examples: Lickitung, Piloswine.

Overall I believe going back over previous generations without a real excuse is incredibly lazy and it is now almost expected.

I think viewing these kinds of situations as "exploiting" older things is simply a matter of perspective - I can't agree with that stance, but at the same time it may be correct and my stance of Game Freak wanting to "evolve" certain aspects of their Pokémon may be incorrect. Without working for the company and hearing their reasons when they decide to make the changes, it's hard to truly know if they're doing it to exploit their old material or if they're actually doing it because they think it'd be something exciting and fun, something they truly want to do out of love.

In my opinion, expecting a "real excuse" for going back and allowing old Pokémon to evolve isn't necessary. To me, it seems they genuinely wanted to give those Pokémon a chance to evolve (in more than just the in-game sense), to expand their possibilites and backstories. For all I know, it's possible that somewhere at the backs of their minds when coming up with those Pokémon (Piloswine, Rhydon, Tangela, etc.) they could have felt that if they had the chance to give them evolutions, they would. I simply don't know.

To me, the "running out of ideas" stance is a cop-out argument; I'm 100% certain if they absolutely wanted to they could have Generation after Generation of brand-new ideas, it's just not what they want to do. If fans can create Generation after Generation of Fakemon that are completely original, I'm certain Game Freak, with their limitless resources available, who can literally get any artist to come up with concepts, is more than capable of doing the same. For that reason, I just don't see how people can honestly believe Game Freak can even be close to running out of ideas. Just look up all of the fake Dexes and regions made by fans... Then think of how many Generations those original ideas could represent. Game Freak can do that tenfold.

I don't ever think each Generation of Pokémon was meant to be filled with all new things. Even Generation 2 is proof of that - it introduced evolutions of pre-existing Pokémon. Clearly, at times Game Freak wants to go back, bring things from a previous Generation, and evolve them. Give them fresh outlooks, new possibilities. Generation 2 and 4 brought things from the past and added to them, and now 6 does the same. I don't think Game Freak is "running out of ideas" because they choose to go back and add to something from the past - instead, I believe this is what they do, and always have done, and will continue to do because that may be how they feel Pokémon should be done.

I guess all I'm saying is I'm not seeing these changes as them exploiting old ideas or them "running out of ideas" because to begin with I view their intentions as pure / not greedy / however you want to put it. It may all come down to where you view them from.
 
I agree with pretty much all of that. Gamefreak has been "running out of ideas" according to fans since the 2nd generation. Honestly, they dont want to over saturate a generation with "great" ideas (matter of opinion) because there will be nothing great to include for future generations. There are also the evolutions for old Pokemon and the new region bird/rodent/bug evolutionary line. Each generation is really a mix of reused and new ideas and they are hardly out of ideas.
 
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