(1) Announcement from Pokemon Coming January 8th: 6th Generation? [12/29]

The Yoshi said:
^It wouldn't be the same. In Gen 2, you got access to Kanto but didn't get to experience the full storyline. I don't think that's what people who are hoping for RS remakes really want. I could be wrong though.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think people care more about the region, the characters, and the Pokemon, not so much that it's the exact same experience as it was in 3rd gen. I'd prefer a BW2 style sequel, it'd have all of that while still providing a different experience, and you'd get better level pacing and Pokemon distribution than a GSC style sequel.
 
I think combining a possible 6th Gen main game with a 3rd Gen remake would just not be profitable for GameFreak - and it would shorten Gen 6 period, which means a shorter time to develop further games.

So I guess the announcement will at least indicate that a 6th Gen game for 3DS is coming in 2013 (maybe by revealing the silhouette of a new pokemon that will play a role in the upcoming movie) - it's really time for a main Pokemon game on 3DS and I can't see a prosecution of Gen 5 on 3DS nor a new Gen initiated by remakes.
 
The Yoshi said:
^It wouldn't be the same. In Gen 2, you got access to Kanto but didn't get to experience the full storyline. I don't think that's what people who are hoping for RS remakes really want. I could be wrong though.

It may not be want people that want the RS remakes want but they are not the ones who makes the decision. Gamefreak can do that and some people will buy it for nostalgia (plus the original storyline of the 6th Gen game).
 
Flygon2071 said:
It may not be want people that want the RS remakes want but they are not the ones who makes the decision. Gamefreak can do that and some people will buy it for nostalgia (plus the original storyline of the 6th Gen game).

Right.

Anyway, I don't think they should do a straight remake of RS, that'd be too boring. If you've already played the originals you're not getting much out of it, you already know what the game is like and it won't end up being that different.
 
Bolt the Cat said:
Flygon2071 said:
It may not be want people that want the RS remakes want but they are not the ones who makes the decision. Gamefreak can do that and some people will buy it for nostalgia (plus the original storyline of the 6th Gen game).

Right.

Anyway, I don't think they should do a straight remake of RS, that'd be too boring. If you've already played the originals you're not getting much out of it, you already know what the game is like and it won't end up being that different.

Tell that to the of people who have purchased upwards of 20 million units FRLG/HGSS, combined.

Remakes are inevitable. GameFreak is a company, and, like all companies, must make money to survive. If remakes are determined to be profitable, then we will get remakes. Like it or not.

However, I do not think said remakes will occur in 2013. For this to occur, the games would have to be on the Nintendo DS family (see every previous generation: GameFreak has never jumped handhelds mid-generation). It'd be silly to put remakes of R/S on a console that has a variant on which you can play the originals. Imagine having "EarthRuby" and Ruby in the same Nintendo DS Lite. Silly. FRLG/HGSS were all released because, at the times that they were released, there was no way, using current Nintendo hardware, to explore those regions and plots/story lines.

For the games to be on the 3DS in 2013 would be highly unlikely as well. As others have mentioned, GameFreak has started each generation with a pair of games that introduce new Pokemon and mechanics. Then, later, remakes built on the same engine are released. It would kind of be "stealing the new generation's thunder" to release remakes on the 3DS before proper Generation VI titles.

That being said, it is time for Japan to get Generation VI games in 2013. The probable reasons why GameFreak was skittish to release B2W2 on the 3DS were that (1) they wanted to give players of BW the equal opportunity to buy B2W2 and (2) the staggering sales of the 3DS. At the time when development was in progress for B2W2, recall that the 3DS was not having the best start in terms of sales units. Thus, GameFreak wanted to release the games on the best-selling Nintendo DS. This optimizes sales.

That being said, the sales of the 3DS are up to par for a Generation VI release. Going back to Gen IV, D/P were released on 9/28/2006 in Japan. At that time, according to Nintendo's earnings reports for their fiscal quarter, 11.52 million units of the Nintendo DS had sold by that time (in Japan). As of 9/30/2012, according to Nintendo, the Nintendo 3DS has sold 7.94 million units in Japan. Considering that this does not include the 2012 holiday season or the next three quarters, this number is sure to go up to close to 11.52 million by September 2013, when we may get Generation VI remakes.

GameFreak released Trozei and Mystery Dungeon: Blue on the Nintendo DS system before Generation IV. Similarly, the 3DS has seen a Mystery Dungeon game and a Rumble game. We're seeing a pattern here.

tl;dr: It's primetime for Generation VI. Remakes seem unlikely in Generation V. To release another game for Nintendo DS at this point is ridiculous. Some even thought B2W2 were ridiculous. It's time to let the Nintendo DS die.
 
HeatRotomFTW97 said:
Tell that to the of people who have purchased upwards of 20 million units FRLG/HGSS, combined.

BW2 raised the bar on what's considered acceptable for future iterations of certain games. I don't think games like Platinum or HGSS would sell as much now that everyone's had a taste of something better.

HeatRotomFTW97 said:
That being said, it is time for Japan to get Generation VI games in 2013. The probable reasons why GameFreak was skittish to release B2W2 on the 3DS were that (1) they wanted to give players of BW the equal opportunity to buy B2W2 and (2) the staggering sales of the 3DS. At the time when development was in progress for B2W2, recall that the 3DS was not having the best start in terms of sales units. Thus, GameFreak wanted to release the games on the best-selling Nintendo DS. This optimizes sales.

Not to mention that it'd be harder to make BW2 compatible with BW1 if it were on a completely different console.
 
I'm calling it right now. Sequel!!!
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Or new version, not really sure how you make a sequel of a puzzle game

All kidding aside I do hope for RSE remakes.
 
Duh, even if they made the boring kkind of RS remakes (not now obviously, get real already people...), it wouldn't be the same experience no matter how you turn it, so they could just stick a changed Hoenn in some random game or whatever and call it a nostalgia-milking game if that fit their plans better.

In all seriousness, I think the remake concept should be thrown out the window, at least in the form as we know it.
 
Bolt the Cat said:
HeatRotomFTW97 said:
Tell that to the of people who have purchased upwards of 20 million units FRLG/HGSS, combined.

BW2 raised the bar on what's considered acceptable for future iterations of certain games. I don't think games like Platinum or HGSS would sell as much now that everyone's had a taste of something better.

HeatRotomFTW97 said:
That being said, it is time for Japan to get Generation VI games in 2013. The probable reasons why GameFreak was skittish to release B2W2 on the 3DS were that (1) they wanted to give players of BW the equal opportunity to buy B2W2 and (2) the staggering sales of the 3DS. At the time when development was in progress for B2W2, recall that the 3DS was not having the best start in terms of sales units. Thus, GameFreak wanted to release the games on the best-selling Nintendo DS. This optimizes sales.

Not to mention that it'd be harder to make BW2 compatible with BW1 if it were on a completely different console.

Dream radar, once again says pls.

Also, enough of this freaking R/S speculation, we get it, you want it badly. But there haven't been any great hints towards it, infact, there are hints saying that it ISN'T likely (ex. Kyogre/Groudon events, why would they release these if a game featuring them is coming out soon?). I'm not saying that I wouldn't like it, but I doubt that it will happen.
 
HeatRotomFTW97 said:
That's the truest thing I've ever heard for the Nintend DS.
But anyway, remakes are quite improbable for another reason (I think).
You see, there is no Pokemon game of the main series for the 3DS. So I doubt that Nintendo will give this position to an RSE remake. We will probably see remakes of the games in the future, maybe to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of RSE. But not now.
Then again, who knows. Nintendo and GameFreak are, as stated, companies. In the end, it's the profit that counts. So, in fact, everything is possible.
 
In order of preference for what I hope the announcement is:
1. Generation VI
2. [insert any spinoff/spinoff sequel here]
3. anything else, including even BW3 (LOL)
4. Redundant Ruby and Superfluous Sapphire

We will probably see remakes of the games in the future, maybe to celebrate the 10-year anniversary of RSE. But not now.

Also, they've already passed the point of releasing them on the 10th anniversary. RS came out in late 2002 in Japan.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mr. Masuda does not appear on Pokémon Smash for every new game launch. I don't remember him being on the show for Mystery Dungeon 3DS, Pokédex 3D (announced at e3), Dream Radar, or Pokémon Rumble Blast. I do, however, remember him being on the show for both BW and B2W2. I could be really wrong with this, as I couldn't really check my facts on Rumble Blast or Dream Radar. But I seem to remember those as lower-profile unveilings. Case in point, look at it like this: the spinoff games, like Conquest and Rumble Blast, were not developed by GameFreak, whereas BW/B2W2/every main-series RPG has been developed by GameFreak. Thus, if Masuda, an employee of GameFreak, is to appear on Pokémon Smash, he either must be announcing something pertaining to his existing game(s) or will be announcing information pertaining to new games.
 
HeatRotomFTW97 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mr. Masuda does not appear on Pokémon Smash for every new game launch. I don't remember him being on the show for Mystery Dungeon 3DS, Pokédex 3D (announced at e3), Dream Radar, or Pokémon Rumble Blast.
With the exception of Dream Radar/Pokedex3D, none of the games you mentioned were developed by GameFreak. Why would Masuda be there if it isn't his game? Masuda only appears for main game announcements.
 
TheAmazingDerpfish said:
HeatRotomFTW97 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Mr. Masuda does not appear on Pokémon Smash for every new game launch. I don't remember him being on the show for Mystery Dungeon 3DS, Pokédex 3D (announced at e3), Dream Radar, or Pokémon Rumble Blast.
With the exception of Dream Radar/Pokedex3D, none of the games you mentioned were developed by GameFreak. Why would Masuda be there if it isn't his game? Masuda only appears for main game announcements.

Yes. I brought that up later in my posts, in case you missed it. The point I was trying to make is if Masuda is appearing on Smash, he must be announcing a GameFreak game, so to all of the people expecting a spin-off title like Trozei, that is very unlikely. Sorry if I was not clear.
 
It is highly unlikely. I posted that as a joke because I don't remember anybody playing that game at all. Only time will tell what it is
 
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