It is stopped if garbodor beats it out (at least temporarily). But the two of them do not work together. As for gothitelle being stopped, is it all that important? I mean Gothitelle isn't used now, I'd be suprised if its used anytime soon with Mewtwo running rampant.pokemonjoe said:
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We're talking about way in the future. Mewtwo EX will probably be not be as popular. Also, I was talking to someone else about Gothitelle.Palbert6393 said:
EDIT: Wow, I just realized that Garbador locks your own abilities. The two do not work together, but Gothitelle still shuts Garbador down.
Gothitelle doesn't shut garbodar down. Gothitelle will be played by the time we get Garbodar, but there's still no telling what will happen. You should be able to play a tool before the goth is active, but you can be beat by tool scrapper, but who says Gothitelle-Gardevoir-Garbodor wont be the main Garbodor deck? Or just Goth/Garb.
scuba steveE said:
Sounds nice because then you could hit 100 damage to any pokemon for 2 DCE. Though set-up might be too difficult...
pokemonjoe said:
Gothitelle only stops Garbordor if you can set up Gothitelle BEFORE they get a tool card on their Garbordor, which is unlikely since Gothitelle is a stage 2.
Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
Take Out would be a fun move to bring back, however with all of the EX pokemon being basic there would have to be a really bad recoil or attack cost. And it would have to be on a Stage 2 or an EX itself, like 27th_wonder said...
But it would be really fun to have back!
Unlimited is the format of FTK decks, Celebi. And in Unlimited, people would probably run a Muk anyway, because it locks Poke-Powers and Poke-Bodies, both of which are arguably more common.
But it doesn't lock Abilities.
GOTHITELLE + MUK IN UNLIMITED GOGOGOGOGOGO
But it doesn't lock Abilities.
GOTHITELLE + MUK IN UNLIMITED GOGOGOGOGOGO
scuba steveE said:
Maybe?
27th_wonder said:
They already have. It's called darkness claw. That's the new sp darkness energy.
...should I feel kind of dumb for not noticing that Tool Scrapper was a watered-down version of Windstorm until now? ._.
Seems Like a very nice set to me, Not a ton of amazing stuff, but it looks like it may do allot for the game and make it a bit more interesting.
Things I'm looking forward to with this set:
Terrakion EX (Yes finally rock can have acceleration to some extent!)
Rayquaza EX (Woah. seems like a power house to me. New magnezone.)
Shadinja/Ninjask (Even though garbodor/zebstrika ruins it if your not fast enough, I feel this would be tons of fun and it could work with disruption. Crosses fingers we get a new junk arm.)
Garbodor/Zebstrika ND (Seems like a good deck If you can make a fast consistent build. Zebstrika takes out tool scrapper, garbodor takes out abilities. Maybe eels for zeb, or some ex's for an end sweep?)
Ho-oh EX (Though not to amazing the ability is still cool in my eyes so I hope we see a few cool rogues with this one.)
Tool Scrapper (Quite useful and about the only reason garbodor isnt broken.)
Special Energy (Both in the set.) (These seem pretty useful, and very helpful with dragon pokemon.Unless I'm wrong with what the cards mean, which is usually, I'm thinking the additions of these cards will make the meta faster and more agressive.)
I think some other decent cards in the set are: Ampharos, Boufalant,Ninetails, and all of the trainers.
I haven't taken an amazing look into the set yet so I probably left out a couple of the better cards.
Things I'm looking forward to with this set:
Terrakion EX (Yes finally rock can have acceleration to some extent!)
Rayquaza EX (Woah. seems like a power house to me. New magnezone.)
Shadinja/Ninjask (Even though garbodor/zebstrika ruins it if your not fast enough, I feel this would be tons of fun and it could work with disruption. Crosses fingers we get a new junk arm.)
Garbodor/Zebstrika ND (Seems like a good deck If you can make a fast consistent build. Zebstrika takes out tool scrapper, garbodor takes out abilities. Maybe eels for zeb, or some ex's for an end sweep?)
Ho-oh EX (Though not to amazing the ability is still cool in my eyes so I hope we see a few cool rogues with this one.)
Tool Scrapper (Quite useful and about the only reason garbodor isnt broken.)
Special Energy (Both in the set.) (These seem pretty useful, and very helpful with dragon pokemon.Unless I'm wrong with what the cards mean, which is usually, I'm thinking the additions of these cards will make the meta faster and more agressive.)
I think some other decent cards in the set are: Ampharos, Boufalant,Ninetails, and all of the trainers.
I haven't taken an amazing look into the set yet so I probably left out a couple of the better cards.
I don't think Garbodor would be broken even if it didn't have the Tool drawback. It would definitely be VERY powerful, but not broken. Remember - there are a lot of decks even right now that can function perfectly fine without Abilities. It could hurt decks like Reuniclus variants, anything with Eels, or the random Ho-Oh - but that isn't a vast percentage of all decks.
Mewtwo is broken. Garbodor is not.
Mewtwo is broken. Garbodor is not.
A large percentage right now, anyway. The thing is that we won't get Garbodor for another two sets; odds are that Garbodor will NOT be in Dark Explorers. (If it is, though, that'd be pretty cool.) A lot can change between now and then, seeing how Terrakion is rapidly on the rise.
And why Large Cloak? I'd rather put Rescue Scarf on Garbodor instead to use his Ability.
And why Large Cloak? I'd rather put Rescue Scarf on Garbodor instead to use his Ability.
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