(1) Official Japanese Pokemon Website Also Posts About the January 8th Announcement [1/4]

NachoMan said:
Mitja said:
Shiet. 3 new pages? xD


Ill say this:

If there was equally solid/fishy evidence/hints/whatever for gen VI as for RS-remakes (I don't think for a second there is before someone thinks otherwise),
the former is way ahead, simply due to a new gen going hand-in-hand with a new handheld.
Which is why I usually want to boil it down to the question of DS being a dead system.
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They already confirmed that they were going continue supporting the DS, so there is at least a slight chance that there maybe another DS game before Gen 5 ends.

And I don't see what you mean by fishy evidence?? I gave several valid NON-FISHY points as to why there would be RSE remakes.
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Ok I'm have to say something here. For starters, I would like a link to where Nintendo, GameFreak, or TPC confirms this. Right now there are only four scheduled DS to come out this year and none of them are 1st party games. Again there's only FOUR. At this point it would just not be a smart business move to release a new game on a outdated system when there's a newer system out there. It's like making a 2013 car with parts from 5 years ago. It just doesn't make any logical sense.
 
Gen 6 would only be longer if they waited for it to start to release RSE remakes. Then they'll also have to do DP remakes.

scuba steveE said:
NachoMan said:
They already confirmed that they were going continue supporting the DS, so there is at least a slight chance that there maybe another DS game before Gen 5 ends.

And I don't see what you mean by fishy evidence?? I gave several valid NON-FISHY points as to why there would be RSE remakes.
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Ok I'm have to say something here. For starters, I would like a link to where Nintendo, GameFreak, or TPC confirms this. Right now there are only four scheduled DS to come out this year and none of them are 1st party games. Again there's only FOUR. At this point it would just not be a smart business move to release a new game on a outdated system when there's a newer system out there. It's like making a 2013 car with parts from 5 years ago. It just doesn't make any logical sense.
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Technically, we are in the middle of Gen 5, on the DS.
 
NachoMan said:
Gen 6 would only be longer if they waited for it to start to release RSE remakes. Then they'll also have to do DP remakes.

scuba steveE said:
Ok I'm have to say something here. For starters, I would like a link to where Nintendo, GameFreak, or TPC confirms this. Right now there are only four scheduled DS to come out this year and none of them are 1st party games. Again there's only FOUR. At this point it would just not be a smart business move to release a new game on a outdated system when there's a newer system out there. It's like making a 2013 car with parts from 5 years ago. It just doesn't make any logical sense.
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Technically, we are in the middle of Gen 5, on the DS.
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Seems like you're the only person who thinks that.:rolleyes: I can sit here and tell you why we're at the end of the 5th gen., but you're probably won't agree with me and post 40 reasons why it's not, so I'm not even going to try. I'm just going to sit back and wait for the announcement and enjoy the chaos.:D
 
jynxed said:
ArchedThunder said:
Not really, if fans still want them and they still sell there is no reason to stop. Money is money. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they remake Red and Green again for the 20th anniversary or something.

Also you could argue that R/G and R/S need to be remade because of the physical/special split. Obviously they don't need to, but you could argue that since that was the last huge change to the mechanics in the game.
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But where do you draw the line? They do have to stop, really. Otherwise you're going to end up with Gen 5 consisting of BW, BW2, RSE remakes, and FRLG remakes; Gen 6 being whatever/whatever, DP remakes, and HGSS remakes; Gen 7 being BW remakes, BW2 remakes, RSE remake remakes, FRLG remake remakes. It just keeps getting bigger exponentially. They do have to decide when is enough.
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No, they really don't need to stop, nothing bad is going to happen if they don't. Just because they might remake games doesn't mean that they would have to remake every game from a generation in one generation. I doubt they would remake R/S and R/G in the same generation, they could just do R/G at some milestone. They also don't necessarily have to remake games that have already been remade, or maybe they could remake R/G one more time and then limit each game to one remake. There are an infinite number of ways they could approach the situation and it is silly to say that they NEED to do it in one particular way. They will go where the money takes them, it is a business after all.

On another note I think it would probably be smart of Game Freak to hand remakes off to Creatures Inc. or some other developer so they could focus on spending more time fleshing out each new game and not be bothered with remaking old ones.

scuba steveE said:
NachoMan said:
Gen 6 would only be longer if they waited for it to start to release RSE remakes. Then they'll also have to do DP remakes.


Technically, we are in the middle of Gen 5, on the DS.
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Seems like you're the only person who thinks that.:rolleyes: I can sit here and tell you why we're at the end of the 5th gen., but you're probably won't agree with me and post 40 reasons why it's not, so I'm not even going to try. I'm just going to sit back and wait for the announcement and enjoy the chaos.:D
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And honestly this is the best way to go about it. It is silly that people are arguing "It will be this!" "No, it will be this!"
Speculation is fine but what is going on here is just ridiculous.
 
Some people act like the remakes won't be released if they're not the next games of the main series to be released lol It will happen, just most unlikely to be now.
 
scuba steveE said:
NachoMan said:
Gen 6 would only be longer if they waited for it to start to release RSE remakes. Then they'll also have to do DP remakes.


Technically, we are in the middle of Gen 5, on the DS.
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Seems like you're the only person who thinks that.:rolleyes: I can sit here and tell you why we're at the end of the 5th gen., but you're probably won't agree with me and post 40 reasons why it's not, so I'm not even going to try. I'm just going to sit back and wait for the announcement and enjoy the chaos.:D
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You haven't given any reasons. So, the reason you said that because?????

I SAID technically, going by previous Generations. I never actually said were exactly in the middle of Gen 5. So, again jumping to assumptions.
 
NachoMan said:
scuba steveE said:
Seems like you're the only person who thinks that.:rolleyes: I can sit here and tell you why we're at the end of the 5th gen., but you're probably won't agree with me and post 40 reasons why it's not, so I'm not even going to try. I'm just going to sit back and wait for the announcement and enjoy the chaos.:D
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You haven't given any reasons. So, the reason you said that because??

I SAID technically, going by previous Generations. I never actually said were exactly in the middle of Gen 5. So, again jumping to assumptions.
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people have given you so many reasons. if you are not going to acknowledge them then stop asking for more reasons.

straight up.
- gen 5 has been confimed to be a short generation (its been 3 years pretty much)
- the anime will have no material if they release remakes instead of a new gen
- of course they are going to show off the 3ds potential with a brand new generation, that's just the most likely scenario

I don't mean to 'bash' (if you consider this bashing), but let's honest; some of your list had nothing to do with possible R/S remakes

R/S might happen someday, we don't know how they will handle the 3ds games trading capabilities with ds games, so they'll eventually will be a need to remake R/S. just not now
 
The anime could go back to Hoenn. They did it with Kanto, or just continue the N saga. They didn't do back to Johto at all when HGSS was released.

Nothing to do with RSE remakes. I listed lots of valid points. And you have failed to explain your reason behind your reason.

Of course Gen 6 on the 3DS was the very likely scenario! I didn't say Gen 6 would be on the DS!

This is crazy.

I've already acknowledged the reasons people have stated. You haven't gave one example of why you think that. Whatever.
 
They could go back to Hoenn but have you been following the anime at all?

If you have, then you would know what's the go with Ash in the Unova League at this very moment

They actually had a lot of HG/SS references in the anime when they were released, they had a mini arc to celebrate it.

NachoMan said:
The anime could go back to Hoenn. They did it with Kanto, or just continue the N saga. They didn't do back to Johto at all when HGSS was released.

Nothing to do with RSE remakes. I listed lots of valid points. And you have failed to explain your reason behind your reason.

Of course Gen 6 on the 3DS was the very likely scenario! I didn't say Gen 6 would be on the DS!

This is crazy.

I've already acknowledged the reasons people have stated. You haven't gave one example of why you think that. Whatever.
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I'm glad we agree that the 6th generation will be on the 3ds

Here's my main and most important reason why I think there will be never be a R/S remake on the Nintendo DS
- because the NDS is directly compatible with the GBA as opposed to the 3DS
 
The thing I wanted most is that.. All 6 games combined into one game. Pokemon Rainbow... (yucky title name, but all these colour based names forced me to make up this name. huhu)
 
5-part mini arc featuring Lyra and Khoury. DP143-147 I believe

Also, yes I am aware that the N arc is afterwards. If the 6th gen is announced tomorrow, the games won't come out til like the second half of the year. That's there material til the games come out

There's a reason why the Unova region seems rushed in the anime, do you think it's a coincidence they started doing B/W2 stuff with the tournament (and soon to be ghetsis/N arc) and it timed itself perfectly. They know what they're doing :)

All in all, I'm very excited to hear the announcement

Personally I hope it's a MMO or something crazy like that!
 
I just realised I haven't posted this here yet for some reason...

http://www.pokebip.com/pokemon/news2516__un_nouveau_jeu_pokemon_en_developpement_sur_3ds_.html

TPCi answered a handful of questions chosen by fans.
One of the questions was
"How will main pokemon games be different on the 3DS? In other words, how will the 3DS improve the pokemon experience and what can we expect? A new generation or remakes?"

Answer:
"We are not allowed to give a full answer. Meanwhile let me say, we are definitely working on something for the 3DS. This game will make use of the 3D features. It will be a new game, not a remake."



And yes, I know that TPCi doesn't make the games. However they obviously do know relevant information to prepare marketing strategies etc.
If they didn't know, they would have answered that they don't have that information, instead of actually denying it.
 
I think that once the 6th gen is established and the anime has a solid footing is when the R/S remakes would come out (if Gamefreak plans to make them). Since 6th gen is more than likely to come out on the 3DS, and the 3DS isn't compatible with the GBA, then it makes sense that the remakes would happens then. Who knows, maybe Gen VI will have hints towards a remake. Like, really obvious hints which even the casual player can hone in on.
 
Elite Stride said:
As for my opinion, I'm probably going to get bashed for saying this, but I don't think that GameFreak owes anyone any sort of remake. R/S/E? MAYBE. But as someone hinted at earlier in this thread, a R/S remake would essentially put the anime at a standstill unless they planned on releasing a remake and a new generation at once, which is extremely debatable and something we can probably all agree isn't going to be happening. Everybody is just so heated on the topic, demanding remakes left and right, but they are beginning to get to a point where remakes aren't going to be needed for a long while. Especially when they complete R/S and D/P is up for discussion. Personally, I smell generation 6 comin' round the bend.
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They don't owe anyone anything. If they do release a remake though I would love to see it. As would probably everyone here. That's a very good point though, remakes won't be needed for a long while. But given the release dates of FR/LG/HG/SS compared to the originals, then we are due for one. Maybe it's the art style Pokemon has that we just don't notice graphical updates as much.
 
NachoMan and other R/S people:

I think the real discrepancy we are having is over the pattern of remakes. Most people on here think that remakes come out two Pokémon generations after the original games. But I think Generation V of Pokémon throws that off course. Think about it like this. FRLG came out on the GBA, the sixth generation of handheld consoles, and Red/Blue came out on the GameBoy, the fourth generation of said consoles. That's a two generation gap. Same thing with G/S: GBC was (allegedly :p) fifth generation, and DS was seventh generation. So, going by that pattern, we should be getting R/S remakes for the 3DS, which, as I said and many others have said as well, is just not feasible before the Generation VI new region/Pokémon game is released. I think we will get R/S 3DS in time, but not in 2013.

This brings me to another point: those expecting D/P remakes in Generation VI are going to be disappointed I literally cannot think of a reason in the world why they'd release two remakes in the same generation, aside from the Pokémon generation pattern, which is about to be broken today (pardon my hubris). Going by the above pattern, D/P remakes should be released on the "4DS" (ninth handheld generation, which may not exist given competition from smartphones/tablets/other technological gizmos). Though, I guess we'll see. Only a few more hours until this hype train pulls into the station. XD
 
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