(1) 'Plasma Storm' Booster Packs, Spring 2013 Tins! [11/30]

[Machamp The Champion]

Those tins are so imbalanced. They should've gave the third spot to Victini if it's in Plasma Storm (then it'd be all the EX's with Ace Specs), and saved Keldeo for the fall tins. The BK and WK ones aren't comparable to the Keldeo one at all. The manager of the league I go to tolled me he won't even stock them, and just get the Keldeo ones, lol.

I guess they go along with the movie that was just released.

Oh, yeah. That too.

 

[The Pikachu Mafia]

The facts don't lie, Keldeo is arguably the BDIF right now so how can it be inconsistent?

Looks like someone has never played or seen Blastoise/Keldeo in action~

I did do a fair amount of testing with and against Keldeo/Blastoise, the only reason I'm not playing the deck is because I can't afford keldeo. Mewtwo is easy to counter with mewtwo and that's one of the main reasons Blastoise is so good, it can accelerate to non water type pokemon meaning outside of eels, blastoise is actually the most efficient way to run mewtwo.

For Blastoise/Keldeo to do well, the list has to basically be perfect for its meta. Not good, perfect. The deck frequently falls on its face, especially to things like Mewtwo, and getting rid of a Blastoise is a major setback. Heck, even getting rid of a Keldeo is a major setback since you lose so much Energy off it.

I'll give you blastoise, he's a stage 2 and that's always a set back in any deck nowadays, however did that stop klingklang from winning nats or hydreigon from dominating BR's? Also a smart player will rarely load more than 3 energy on their keldeo (with the rare exception being to ohko things like hydreigon or other blastoise) so are you saying that losing a 3 energy darkrai in hammertime is a major setback that makes the deck inconsistent?

Those people who did well:

~have extremely good perfect lists, so 43 people over 3-4 weeks had perfect lists? I'm not buying it.

~have metas unprepared for Keldeo, Seriously? the card has been hyped since the day we got the JP scan of it, if someone wasn't prepared to deal with it, they deserved to lose.

~have really good luck with their draws and SSUs, you really expect me to believe that all the blastoise/keldeo lists that made a Top 4 showing got there on good coin flips?

~are probably not in Masters, I was using master results exclusively, leaving the Senior and Junior rankings alone

~or any above combination of the four.

Say what you will, but you have yet to convince me that Keldeo/Blastoise is objectively good.

I'm not saying that Keldeo doesn't get bad starts/hands every deck has them, but to call a deck inconsistent that's doing so well right now is rather silly. It's like calling CMT or Tyram inconsistent when they were doing well in their respective formats.

 

[Thunder Crown]

N. Beside, if this is about the tins, why are you guys having an argument about Blastoise/Keldeo EX?

 

[The Pikachu Mafia]

N. Beside, if this is about the tins, why are you guys having an argument about Blastoise/Keldeo EX?

Landorus is the one with the craziest pricings at the moment. :/

^ However he's weak to keldeo big time, so the reduced price of Keldeo should bring down the price of landorus a bit (not too much, but it will still be better than it is right now )

Too bad Keldeo is objectively bad. It won't do a thing to the price of Landorus.

that's why...

 

[ShayminTails]

I guess if it's not sold out, I'll probably get a Keldeo tin as a Birthday Present next year

 

[ShayminTails]

For when you do come out, I might get me a Keldeo tin for my Birthday