Ryu Shoji said:
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True, but it's already known that the B/W trainer characters are older than previous generations. It's very possible that Nintendo is targeting this round of games towards the older fans.
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*jumps in for a sec*
True, but it's already known that the B/W trainer characters are older than previous generations. It's very possible that Nintendo is targeting this round of games towards the older fans.
Giving someone the benefit of the doubt is the exact opposite of taking everything with a grain of salt. It shows exactly how much you are willing to believe someone who may be lying right to your face. I think he's lying and, unless he gives us more proof what he says is true, I'm not believing him.
My understanding of this is the source could not reveal "official" artwork for artistic licensing reasons, and so he found the best fan art and posted it. I don't think he literally meant it IS beta artwork, but rather a good interpretation to represent what Gamefreak has designed.
blasphemy1 said:
This!
Venator said:
Did anyone say we had to believe him? if he got screwed by his source, it'll show and you can give him the B.O.T.D.... but if it was meant to be a hoax and this is still a scam... then thats the reason why we should take everything he says lightly until he redeems himself... if he does that is
Not that much older. They may add in the odd thing to appeal to older gamers, but a drastic change like the rumours suggested would turn away a younger audience. Game Freak would need a plot that's simple yet engaging to appeal to both a younger and older fanbase. If the fate of the game was decided by good or bad choices, it would over complicate it and turn away younger fans.Shiny Hunter Haku said:
Shiny Hunter Haku said:
Which would still ask the question why, if it's intended to be similar but not real, that it'd be cropped from its original work and not linked to the original.
Why go through extremities if we're just trying to get a basic concept?
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Unfortunately, I agree with Venator. This is a case of Occam's razor: the simplest answer is probably the right one. Think about it. What makes more sense?
a) This is a hoax, hence the use of fan art taken as beta art
b) A real source with access to concept art gave him some fan art because "it kinda looks like it"
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Unfortunately, I agree with Venator. This is a case of Occam's razor: the simplest answer is probably the right one. Think about it. What makes more sense?
a) This is a hoax, hence the use of fan art taken as beta art
b) A real source with access to concept art gave him some fan art because "it kinda looks like it"
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Ryu Shoji said:
I personally don't think that's the case. This generation's younger bunch is used to more complicated games than we had when we were their age. Where we were playing simple and mindless Sega Genesis games, they're now playing complex 3-D action games, some of which even require physical motion, like on the Wii and PS3.
But hey, no use in arguin'. We'll just see what Nintendo comes up with, eh?
I'd like to say that I have been lurking here for a few days and have only now just made an account. Anyway...
I believe that they are finally making a real step towards satisfying the first generation of pokemon fans. How that that generation is older, they want to keep them hooked if you know what I mean. I was starting to get that hunch back when Emerald version came out. They made Team Aqua and Team Magma interact on a level that had not been seen previously, making it hard to tell who was "the real bad guy" in general. I mean, both teams were obviously bad guys, but I thought from a kid's stance, that may be a little confusing.
And then there is the D/P/Pl games. The plot there became a little more complex and also introduced a slightly darker concept of completely destroying the world and remaking it from scratch. For most kid's games, that is usually not present from what I have experienced. not to mention the Distortion World.
Anyway, my point is that I think that the up and coming games will allow younger poke fans to grasp the general concept of the games while providing the older poke fans with plot and application complexity. The best of both worlds in a sorts.
Wow, that had nothing to do with the main point of this topic. So to make up for that, I'll say this:
Rumors are rumors until there is evidence, let's not make a mob and attack someone just yet.
I believe that they are finally making a real step towards satisfying the first generation of pokemon fans. How that that generation is older, they want to keep them hooked if you know what I mean. I was starting to get that hunch back when Emerald version came out. They made Team Aqua and Team Magma interact on a level that had not been seen previously, making it hard to tell who was "the real bad guy" in general. I mean, both teams were obviously bad guys, but I thought from a kid's stance, that may be a little confusing.
And then there is the D/P/Pl games. The plot there became a little more complex and also introduced a slightly darker concept of completely destroying the world and remaking it from scratch. For most kid's games, that is usually not present from what I have experienced. not to mention the Distortion World.
Anyway, my point is that I think that the up and coming games will allow younger poke fans to grasp the general concept of the games while providing the older poke fans with plot and application complexity. The best of both worlds in a sorts.
Wow, that had nothing to do with the main point of this topic. So to make up for that, I'll say this:
Rumors are rumors until there is evidence, let's not make a mob and attack someone just yet.
Redneck said:
That's what I don't get, to be honest. ;n;'
Redneck said:
are you even listening to us? Who says it came from deviant art maybe thesource or martijn didn't know it was even from DA and found it elsewere..who;s to say martjn or the source even cropped it..whever they found it could have done it.
I'm not sure how he's getting his information unless someone is placing their job in severe jeopardy. Anyone involved with making a game is bound to strict non-disclosure contracts, and anyone in breach almost immediately loses their job and risks being on the unhappy end of a subpoena. This being the case, this guy and his "source" are suspect, as no one would put a job at Nintendo at risk just so some Pokemon fans know what they'll be playing in a couple month's time. Nintendo employees don't even share details about what they do among family members.
It's due to that fact alone that I'm skeptical whenever anyone claims to have insider info. That and this guy's inability to provide evidence of any kind. It sounds to me like we're being trolled by someone who's making some good-sounding guesses, and he's doing a good job. Though there's a chance that what he's saying is true, we won't know until it's time to play the game, and I wouldn't put money on it.
It's due to that fact alone that I'm skeptical whenever anyone claims to have insider info. That and this guy's inability to provide evidence of any kind. It sounds to me like we're being trolled by someone who's making some good-sounding guesses, and he's doing a good job. Though there's a chance that what he's saying is true, we won't know until it's time to play the game, and I wouldn't put money on it.
FireGrey said:
I know so many people said that diamond and pearl sucked and the starters then looked horrible every time I go to gamestop someone is buying pearl platinum or diamond
Everyone just keeps reiterating the same thing. Right now, it's fake until he proves otherwise; please treat it as such.
Unless you would like to keep speculating about sources of the images etc., let me explain the 'history' of all this.
About three months ago, I was first told this information, at which point I was not allowed to 'spill the beans'. That is also when I was sent this image.
Last week I visited Nintendo, where one of the points of conversation were the new Pokémon games. One of the things I discussed was what I shared with you here. Although the Nintendo rep. did not know all the details, he did know "there are going to be new battle mechanics" and "the theme of black and white involves more than just colors".
With that I returned to my source, and I was given permission to share the information. After seeing your interest on Minotauross, I asked if I could share the "concept art work" as well, which was then approved. Point is, the image was already in my posession before all this.
The whole deal with the artwork is one giant misunderstanding, where I hope to understand soon where that came from.
As far as the information goes, it is the confirmation of Nintendo themselves on "renewed battle mechanics" and "more to the theme it than just colors", in combination with a source I have come to know in the past as reliable.
About three months ago, I was first told this information, at which point I was not allowed to 'spill the beans'. That is also when I was sent this image.
Last week I visited Nintendo, where one of the points of conversation were the new Pokémon games. One of the things I discussed was what I shared with you here. Although the Nintendo rep. did not know all the details, he did know "there are going to be new battle mechanics" and "the theme of black and white involves more than just colors".
With that I returned to my source, and I was given permission to share the information. After seeing your interest on Minotauross, I asked if I could share the "concept art work" as well, which was then approved. Point is, the image was already in my posession before all this.
The whole deal with the artwork is one giant misunderstanding, where I hope to understand soon where that came from.
As far as the information goes, it is the confirmation of Nintendo themselves on "renewed battle mechanics" and "more to the theme it than just colors", in combination with a source I have come to know in the past as reliable.
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