(1) Possible 'Black' and 'White' Spoilers - Unconfirmed [6/11]

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I've just started wondering this. Martijn, who ran one of the biggest Zelda sites for a few years is in Nintendo's stronghold of people, while you have Serebii Joe running one of the biggest Pokemon sites ever for 10 years, and he isn't in Nintendo's stronghold. This seems quite odd. Don't you think Nintendo would release Pokemon information to a guy who runs a site on Pokemon 24/7, before giving Pokemon information to someone who ran a Zelda site, who is most likely trying to get his name out there?

You have Martijn, running a Zelda site, with Pokemon info. Versus Serebii Joe, running one of the largest Pokemon sites and the largest Pokemon Forum, with no Pokemon information.

Odd hunh? Well I'm done my rant for now.
 
Yeah, but how do you know that more wont be shown or discussed in secret? It still seems like something new will be going on there, whether they will be showing it to the general public or not. That means there might be leaks of it.

Spherical Aura said:
It's just fun to speculate, especially about a game franchise people love so much. If people want to think that this is his lair until official sources state what it is then they have every right to.
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theres a difference between speculating and assuming it and stating it as fact, as the person above clearly did. It could very easily be just a generic cave that you pass through to get to another town. Zekrom could just as easily be in one of those skyscrapers in town. Or in that truck on the road, you know its electrical too right? EDIT- Forgot the *sarcasm* derp
 
lolomg i think its hilarous that most of the people asking martijn the questions are the ones who think he's fake. then getting all cranky pants when he doesn't answer random questions.


personally im on the fence, i want the info to be true buuuuuuut im still not 100% convinced.

also lay off hey, some people are being really rude. :/ you're gonna feel like real a-holes if he was telling the truth, and even if he wasn't, you were still rude as to a (at the time) not proven liar.
 
Who says Serebii doesn't have info? He probably knows a lot more than he's letting on, but he never posts it until it's confirmed or until he feels the information he as is ready to be shown.
 
Weyard said:
Yeah, but how do you know that more wont be shown or discussed in secret? It still seems like something new will be going on there, whether they will be showing it to the general public or not. That means there might be leaks of it.

theres a difference between speculating and assuming it and stating it as fact, as the person above clearly did. It could very easily be just a generic cave that you pass through to get to another town. Zekrom could just as easily be in one of those skyscrapers in town. Or in that truck on the road, you know its electrical too right? EDIT- Forgot the *sarcasm* derp
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No one is stating it as a fact. All of this is speculation...all of it. And even if it is just some cave, who are you to tell people to stop saying what they think it is?
 
for all we know he might have heard a rumor that there will be a demo at E3, and just isnt saying it because it isnt confirmed :p
 
Weyard said:
@squirtle. I wasnt exactly keeping up with it when it was going on but, when G and S originally came out. do you think people looked at pictures of Tin tower and assumed that A FIRE BIRD would live there? no. Do you think they saw whirl islands and assumed that a big blue and white ....thing lived there? no.
Do you think they had ANY IDEA that there would be a big shrine at the top of Mt Coronet where you will get Palkia and Dialga? no.

im saying, just assuming that its his lair, since its electrical and hes electric type, is a pretty stupid thing to do. considering the "lair" has never had ANYTHING to do with the legendaries. Look at Mewtwo. If we are going by his "creation" story he should have been in the laboratory on Cinnibar...
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Damn you just destroyed EVERYTHING my post stood for XD
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Spherical Aura said:
Not to shoot down your theory, but Mewtwo kinda destroyed the lab on Cinnabar, so it was his "lair". Also, assuming you did not see the legends first hand in G and S, you could kind of guess that legendary Pokémon live in the two most talked about places in the game. And as for Spear Pillar you could have guess legends where there because you HAD to go there to complete the game. The same goes for the lake trio, the dog trio and the bird trio. The lake trio we know from the start live in the caverns of the lakes. The dog trio you HAVE to awaken to progress through the game. At this point, it's just assumption. But when we are playing black and white and characters are going off on the "weird electric cave you should explore", with Zekrom being electric, It's safe to assume he lives there.
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im not even going to read your entire post because you obviously didnt read/understand mine. i am saying, if all you knew was the legendaries typing, and had a picture of an area. There would be NO WAY of knowing where it would end up.
Fire Bird - Wooden Tower
Flying Thing - Watery Caves
Time/Space thing - shrine on top of a mountain (assumes we only saw picture of mt coronets insides, as in a generic rocky cave)
Genetically engineered pokemon - Watery Cave
Giant red GROUND lobster - deep underwater, then in a cave deep under a city)


Seriously. You would have never been able to guess their location like that previously, what makes you think you can now?

As you have said, those placed are talked about in game. We havent gotten that far yet. Based on only what is known at this time, there would have been no way of knowing it back then.
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[In Bold] You kinda destroyed your whole point
 
Spherical Aura said:
No one is stating it as a fact. All of this is speculation...all of it. And even if it is just some cave, who are you to tell people to stop saying what they think it is?
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"It's the cave leading up to Zekrom. As you can tell from the blue rocks, it matches the color of the "horn" coming off its head. Any electrical energy that escapes the bulbous generator on its back is released into the stones and stored."

if thats not stating it as fact, then i dont know what is.
 
when does martijn post again right now it feels like the minotauros scenario were he wasnt posting in a long either
 
I didn't mean to start such a commotion about an old pic.
Can't we just go and play Robot Unicorn Attack for the next 23 hours?
 
squrtle said:
darn you just destroyed EVERYTHING my post stood for XD
Weyard said:
Spherical Aura said:
Not to shoot down your theory, but Mewtwo kinda destroyed the lab on Cinnabar, so it was his "lair". Also, assuming you did not see the legends first hand in G and S, you could kind of guess that legendary Pokémon live in the two most talked about places in the game. And as for Spear Pillar you could have guess legends where there because you HAD to go there to complete the game. The same goes for the lake trio, the dog trio and the bird trio. The lake trio we know from the start live in the caverns of the lakes. The dog trio you HAVE to awaken to progress through the game. At this point, it's just assumption. But when we are playing black and white and characters are going off on the "weird electric cave you should explore", with Zekrom being electric, It's safe to assume he lives there.
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im not even going to read your entire post because you obviously didnt read/understand mine. i am saying, if all you knew was the legendaries typing, and had a picture of an area. There would be NO WAY of knowing where it would end up.
Fire Bird - Wooden Tower
Flying Thing - Watery Caves
Time/Space thing - shrine on top of a mountain (assumes we only saw picture of mt coronets insides, as in a generic rocky cave)
Genetically engineered pokemon - Watery Cave
Giant red GROUND lobster - deep underwater, then in a cave deep under a city)


Seriously. You would have never been able to guess their location like that previously, what makes you think you can now?

As you have said, those placed are talked about in game. We havent gotten that far yet. Based on only what is known at this time, there would have been no way of knowing it back then.
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[In Bold] You kinda destroyed your whole point
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what? my whole arguement is that you cant go by their type and a picture to guess it. If you had been shown a wooden tower, could you have guessed that it was Ho-ohs "lair"? What if they had shown sprout tower instead? Seriously....
 
Weyard said:
"It's the cave leading up to Zekrom. As you can tell from the blue rocks, it matches the color of the "horn" coming off its head. Any electrical energy that escapes the bulbous generator on its back is released into the stones and stored."

if thats not stating it as fact, then i don't know what is.
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And your basing your entire theory on one person who stated it as a "fact", while there a hundred more stating it as speculation.
 
No, i am basing it on one person, since i was REFERRING to that person. He stated it as fact, i said it was unconfirmed, and everyone jumped on me for making a point.
 
oiracul said:
i hate serebii in that way because they don't post rumers or anything
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For me, Serebii is the most Trusted site, when it comes to the games, as Joe posts Info on time, no rumors. You have Bulbapedia, who is all late to the game. And you also have WPM, who basically puts everything Serebii does.
 
Rockoto said:
I didn't mean to start such a commotion about an old pic.
Can't we just go and play Robot Unicorn Attack for the next 23 hours?
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I'm too hyped up, aggravated, curious, and sore from pressing F5 over and over to feel the harmony harmony oh love.
 
Would you guys think that the starting town is to the right of the map??
Because the screenshots show you going into the bridge coming from the west. So I'm thinking the starting town is somewhere aroudn there.
 
Weyard said:
No, i am basing it on one person, since i was REFERRING to that person. He stated it as fact, i said it was unconfirmed, and everyone jumped on me for making a point.
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No one is jumping on you. You made yourself out to be someone who wanted to STOP the speculation about the cave.
 
bluechew i said i dont like how he doesnt post rumers ididnt say it was a bad website
 
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