(1) Top 20 Regionals Cards and Tips

Daddy said:
I find this list very inaccurate AND bad! Zekrom and normal Rayquaza should not be on this list! Also, why do you even think this is good info since he is banned? Sure he has accomplishments, but he doesn't know what deserves what spot on this list due to the fact that he probably doesn't even care since he isn't playing anyway...
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Daddy said:
It does, I agree. I looked at the list. I'm sure their is some great info, but I honestly do not care what he has to say if he is banned.
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And I honestly don't care what you have to say now or ever if you haven't even read something but go out of your way to state a negative opinion about it. That's one of the stupidest things I've ever seen on this forum and I've seen a lot of stupid things.
 
Daddy, now is not the time to shoo away any hope we get for someone with multiple championships to write for the site by completely bashing their opinion in a non-constructive manner and using a reason that is irrelevant to ignore what they wrote.
 
Wow, great article Martin! well written. Though, In my opinion that I think mewtwo should be the best card in the format I really like how you stated Keldeo ex being one of the best pokemon, it really is. Rayeels tho! Haha good stuff man.
-Kian
 
Kianraikou said:
Wow, great article Martin! well written. Though, In my opinion that I think mewtwo should be the best card in the format I really like how you stated Keldeo ex being one of the best pokemon, it really is. Rayeels tho! Haha good stuff man.
-Kian
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Wow! I didnt know you posted here! Thanks for reading and I will never forget our finals match at NorCal! Does it come as a surprise I'm all over Rayquaza EX now?
 
Cool, his article already has 23,000 views and it's only been up for three hours. Guess people are still interested in TCG articles on this site. :p
 
Marty McFly said:
I'm open to challenges if you feel superior to a player with a National Championship and five regional trophies.
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Because listing accomplishments is an excellent substitution for reasoning. Zekrom, Rayquaza, and Meloetta are not good cards. They're played and playable, but they do not have a very significant impact on the game at all. This article looks at things from a completely biased point of view. The decklist only proves it. Marty, though most likely a good player, plays the deck Rayeels and looks down on other decks because of it. I myself have 372 championship points and have never once played rayeels in a tournament scenario and I have not whiffed a Top 4. I have played a variety of decks though and can tell you that they are equal to or better than Rayeels. Also, what makes Mewtwo the #4 card? It is a big part of virtually every deck. Except...hmmm...Marty's Rayeels. What are the odds? Just about every other deck capitalizes on Mewtwo EX, even other Rayeels, and many others and I think it is the #1 card in general. He said it himself, Landorus cripples Eelektrik, but Eelektrik, Zekrom, Rayquaza, and Rayquaza EX all make they cut.​

Biased much?
 
while I do not agree on many of the placements, i must say that this is a great article, informative,helpful, and will certainly aid people in their Regionals quest. I think we all can see that this was hard work, so nice job and I hope we see more work from successful players like you brought to the site!

iis dont hate.

btw iis ur wrong. In T4 at Cedar Grove,you were in cut against rayeels. And u lost the 1st game
 
iisnumber12 said:
Marty McFly said:
I'm open to challenges if you feel superior to a player with a National Championship and five regional trophies.
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Because listing accomplishments is an excellent substitution for reasoning. Zekrom, Rayquaza, and Meloetta are not good cards. They're played and playable, but they do not have a very significant impact on the game at all. This article looks at things from a completely biased point of view. The decklist only proves it. Marty, though most likely a good player, plays the deck Rayeels and looks down on other decks because of it. I myself have 372 championship points and have never once played rayeels in a tournament scenario and I have not whiffed a Top 4. I have played a variety of decks though and can tell you that they are equal to or better than Rayeels. Also, what makes Mewtwo the #4 card? It is a big part of virtually every deck. Except...hmmm...Marty's Rayeels. What are the odds? Just about every other deck capitalizes on Mewtwo EX, even other Rayeels, and many others and I think it is the #1 card in general. He said it himself, Landorus cripples Eelektrik, but Eelektrik, Zekrom, Rayquaza, and Rayquaza EX all make they cut.​

Biased much?
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You caught me. Can anybody tell me the subliminal message of what deck I feel is the play for Regionals? Early season I hated this deck, lol. I switched sides!
 
Cause you don't like trying new things. Just cause u don't want to play a deck doesnt mean its bad or unplayable. Rayeels is tier 2 at best, but dont bash it just cause.
 
RayEels I would put as Tier One. Many top cut videos show that RayEels can beat Landorus, it's toughest matchup.


iisnumber12 said:
Marty McFly said:
I'm open to challenges if you feel superior to a player with a National Championship and five regional trophies.
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Because listing accomplishments is an excellent substitution for reasoning. Zekrom, Rayquaza, and Meloetta are not good cards. They're played and playable, but they do not have a very significant impact on the game at all. This article looks at things from a completely biased point of view. The decklist only proves it. Marty, though most likely a good player, plays the deck Rayeels and looks down on other decks because of it. I myself have 372 championship points and have never once played rayeels in a tournament scenario and I have not whiffed a Top 4. I have played a variety of decks though and can tell you that they are equal to or better than Rayeels. Also, what makes Mewtwo the #4 card? It is a big part of virtually every deck. Except...hmmm...Marty's Rayeels. What are the odds? Just about every other deck capitalizes on Mewtwo EX, even other Rayeels, and many others and I think it is the #1 card in general. He said it himself, Landorus cripples Eelektrik, but Eelektrik, Zekrom, Rayquaza, and Rayquaza EX all make they cut.​

Biased much?
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>Says sarcastically that listing accomplishments "is an excellent substitution for reasoning"
>Lists accomplishments

Mewtwo I could see being #4 because in some matchups it works, but against Darkrai it really is one of the least effective/efficient attackers. Against Darkrai, I'd prefer to use anything but Mewtwo.


Thank you for taking the time to write the article.
 
The game is currently largely luck based. Its very easy for a deck to beat its worst matchup no matter how bad the matchup is because of the luck factor. That proves nothing. I also agree that the list is highly biased and rather inaccurate, which is a design oversight. A lot of people are just going to look at the list first, skip the walls of text, and immediately comment on that or form opinions (whether they realize it or not) on the rest of the article due to its quality. Making the list...we'll say "inaccurate" again, is hurting the article most of all. And you can tell based on the replies that not only am I correct in people disagreeing strongly with the list, but that it is causing them to skip over the content of the rest of the article.
 
Dark Void said:
The game is currently largely luck based. Its very easy for a deck to beat its worst matchup no matter how bad the matchup is because of the luck factor. That proves nothing. I also agree that the list is highly biased and rather inaccurate, which is a design oversight. A lot of people are just going to look at the list first, skip the walls of text, and immediately comment on that or form opinions (whether they realize it or not) on the rest of the article due to its quality. Making the list...we'll say "inaccurate" again, is hurting the article most of all. And you can tell based on the replies that not only am I correct in people disagreeing strongly with the list, but that it is causing them to skip over the content of the rest of the article.
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Then look at the ones where one player doesn't get a bad start.
 
While I may not agree with the overall ordering of the Pokemon, specifically the latter half, I actually really like the article. I think Rayquaza/Eels is actually quite strong (especially against Keldeo/Blastoise), so I don't mind the hype that the article clearly expresses. I especially liked the Regionals tips too. Very nice article, Martin! :)

dmaster out.
 
While I and many others may not agree with the top 20 card list, I do believe that this article was informative and well-written, so props for that :)

I'm not going to Regionals this winter, but I hope that you guys who are can take this article and use it to it's fullest in order to maximize your chances of doing well.
 
Overall, I thought it was really well written. As for the top 20, I do not think that Zekrom or Meloetta deserved to make the list, but I would like to bring up some points as to why some of the cards that made it on deserve it.

Shaymin-EX
Shaymin-EX is a great card still. It counters two popular Pokémon: Terrakion ad Keldeo. Because of that, I think it deserved to be on the list.

Rayquaza
Rayquaza can still 2HKO any EX, no matter what. It donks Tynamo and Dragon Deino, and is very underrated in my opinion.

Rayquaza-EX being so high
I think that his meta must be loaded with Klingklang and Hydreigon. In that case, Rayquaza-EX would be amazing still. It could OHKO anything, which Klingklang and Hydreigon really can't deal with. Now, in a metagame full of Keldeo or Landorus, it would definitely be worse.

Now, I'm not saying that I completely agree with those being on his list, I'm just giving some viable reasons why those cards might have made it onto his list/made it so high on his list.

Another point I would like to bring up I that everyone will have a different opinion on things. I don't think that any two people can completely agree on the top 20 cards and what order they should be in. Also, some people just think that some cards are underrated and should be considered threats. Like me, I think that Registeel-EX is completely underrated and is one of the top 20 cards in format.

Finally, if everyone had the same opinion, a person could just slap together a list that stated the obvious. The purpose of articles is to express your opinions. I think that articles would be pretty boring if people didn't have different opinions. It would just be reading the same old obviousness over and over again. I personally like the inclusion of some odd twists, it is refreshing to see a unique opinion. While I might not agree with all of the odd twists, I still like to see interesting and unique opinions.
-Mayer
 
To be honest, the placement should be the least of one's worries. Placements are mostly based on opinion. All opinions have some bias in them. You can not fault the article for extreme bias because a Top 20 list is always based on an opinion and his point of view. What should be observed here rather is the amount of information the article gives. Notice how he did not focus on why X is higher than Y but rather explain why X is a good play and Y is a good play. That is what most players should be reading here.

Long story short, focus on what he said for each individual card rather than focus on why is X higher than Y on the list.
 
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