Oh, duh. Totally forgot Garchomp EX was a thing. Noivern I was not aware of, however.
(1) 'Wild Blaze' Booster Pack and Charizard Deck Images! [12/16]
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DNA said:
I'm almost 15 so I'm too young lol. And I'm sure that was the response you expected.
TBH, I really wanted 'Wild Blaze' to be split in 2 with a MegaZardY and MegaZardX themed sets.
Charizard X pack art is so sick!!!! But will it be a fire type or dragon type card? Speaking of dragon megas, I'm looking forward to there being a dragon type mega ampharos!
Dedenne the Electric Fairy Type said:
I'd love to see it be Dragon, especially since there will be 2 Mega Charizard EX's and it would be nice for them to have different types.
arulz said:
ugh, i didnt think of that :/
but charizard X is dragon/fire, so still a 50/50 chance its gonna be dragon!
Well considering charizard Y isn't in the set, they'll need a different fire type to replace Charizard X if he's dragon. If they do make him dragon I think they'll have no choice but to put blaziken in there too.
I do have the feeling that they'll make him fire type, just because.
I do have the feeling that they'll make him fire type, just because.
They don't "need" another Fire. Not like Dark Explorers had more than 1 Dark Pokemon-EX, for instance. Pokemon-EX beyond the cover ones tend to be pretty irrelevant to the theme of the pack.
Though I could totally see them throwing a Dark Houndoom EX in here just to bother people that feel a Fire EX is necessary. ;p (Let's face it, Houndoom EX will not be Fire, ever.)
I wonder what non-Mega we will get. I could see a Moltres EX here, despite a Fire not being needed. But I guess it's more likely to be something non-legendary.
Though I could totally see them throwing a Dark Houndoom EX in here just to bother people that feel a Fire EX is necessary. ;p (Let's face it, Houndoom EX will not be Fire, ever.)
I wonder what non-Mega we will get. I could see a Moltres EX here, despite a Fire not being needed. But I guess it's more likely to be something non-legendary.
I really doubt they'd make a set called "wild blaze" with no fire type ex at all. (All I was saying is that they'd need to make Blaziken if they made charizard a dragon type). It wouldn't be "another" fire type ex, just one. Of course they can do whatever they want, but it would certainly be an odd move.
Also, dark explorers came with sableye, dark claw, dark patch, and other dark pokemon including a dark ex. It's completely feasible that they do that this time as well. There hasn't been a viable fire deck since reshiboar was for a short time. But I think that they would deem one fire ex necessary to showcase the power of fire type pokemon.
Also, dark explorers came with sableye, dark claw, dark patch, and other dark pokemon including a dark ex. It's completely feasible that they do that this time as well. There hasn't been a viable fire deck since reshiboar was for a short time. But I think that they would deem one fire ex necessary to showcase the power of fire type pokemon.
Fire isn't the worst type at the moment. Lightning is, and they don't seem to be trying to change that. They got virtually nothing in X/Y. (Emolga EX is only useful in non-Lightning decks that want a Lightning attacker.) Fire got Delphox, which is pretty solid. I don't think type balancing is a huge priority of theirs. Fire's also a pretty useful attacking type, Grass is pretty common, and most other types can't deal well with Metal in general either. (Which Reshiram and Delphox can easily.) Dragon is pretty pointless, too. It doesn't even hit anything for weakness anymore, and only has 2 support cards, both of which are low-HP Stage 1s.
Overall, Fire is probably the baseline for types. It's nothing spectacular, but it's still pretty useful. Not a bad place to be considering Types like Lightning, Dragon (as a Type rather than a specific Pokemon like Rayquaza and Garchomp) and Psychic don't really do anything. Can't really fault Dragon for that, though.
I'd say Charizard ALONE being here, even if it'll be Dragon, is enough to gain the Wild Blaze title. Most recent Japanese sets (that aren't named after games or colours) have been named for a single Pokemon or its attacks, like Megalo Cannon, Spiral Force and Thunder Knuckle. Thunder Knuckle only had 4 Lightnings total, incidentally.
Overall, Fire is probably the baseline for types. It's nothing spectacular, but it's still pretty useful. Not a bad place to be considering Types like Lightning, Dragon (as a Type rather than a specific Pokemon like Rayquaza and Garchomp) and Psychic don't really do anything. Can't really fault Dragon for that, though.
I'd say Charizard ALONE being here, even if it'll be Dragon, is enough to gain the Wild Blaze title. Most recent Japanese sets (that aren't named after games or colours) have been named for a single Pokemon or its attacks, like Megalo Cannon, Spiral Force and Thunder Knuckle. Thunder Knuckle only had 4 Lightnings total, incidentally.
DNA said:
Oh, the glory days when eels was BDIF...
How I miss them ;w;
RiverShock said:
I'm not really arguing that they *should* do anything, just what they will probably do. I agree they're not much interested in balancing types. I was just arguing why they named dark explorers that; because it was a set centred around dark pokemon.
You're completely right that wild blaze is likely charizards attack name. Excellent point. It's also entirely possible that the attack comes from a dragon type charizard. But I think it's more probable that it comes from a fire type charizard, as the attack name suggests.
I guess it depends on what their priorities are. If they want to showcase the dragon typing, they'll make it dragon. If they want to showcase the power of fire types, he'll be fire.
As far as fire being viable, delphox isn't currently. It's got a good ability reminiscent of claydol and porygon2 from years past, but it's a stage 2. I don't think it'll see much competitive use since energy acceleration would be necessary, and running emboar (a second stage 2) is not the best idea.
Also the fact remains that the set is still called wild blaze, and will be written on the pack art. There aren't that many fire types in gen 6 that are worthy of being put on pack art, so it would make sense to use this opportunity to showcase a mega Blaziken.
I wouldn't even say that fire types are struggling. I mean look at steal Pokémon like Cobalion and Klinklang. They don't see too much play.
arulz said:
Then tell me how David Cohen's MagneBoar did so well to win Worlds in their time. Or Gardevoir/Gallade when Jason Klaczynski played it. Or google Cawthon's "The Truth". Or Gustavo Wada's MegaZone. 2 of those decks ran Magnezone, which had the exact same Ability(Poké-Power) that Delphox does. And even though, the fact that a deck has 2 Stage 2 lines doesn't mean that it'll immediately fail.
I don't think Delphox is the next Keldeo or anything like that, but it's probably about on the level of things like Round and Klinklang, in that it can definitely compete with the top decks, even if it needs to fight harder to win those games. Though keep in mind that Delphox isn't the deck's only attacker, it can EASILY use Reshiram and the like as well. Being a non-EX attacker is a huge plus, too, especially when you could realistically use only non-EX attackers in such a deck, even if Mewtwo EX and Entei EX are viable options.
RiverShock said:
Exactly, that's how this deck will be so functional. Having a Built-in draw engine like Magnezone Prime is just amazing, that's why I'm already planning my Delphox/Emboar deck from now, I really think it'll have great potential and I want it to be as good as I think it'll be.
Going back in topic, I really hope the M-Charizards are playable, or at least the Charizard-EX.