(2) BW6 Vileplume, Dragons Exalted Blister [6/28]

Like everyone else, when I saw Vileplume, I was thinking that trainer lock was coming back. Thankfully, that won't be happening. It would've just devestated the BW-on format since all of our core searching cards are Trainers (Items).

Concerning the new Vileplume, it's a powerful ability, yes. It'll cause problems for most any bulky pokemon and possibly throw a new mini-lifeline to Eeveelutions. Leafeon and Glaceon can both hit for 40 damage for a single colorless energy with Fliptini assistance, which translates to 160 damage when that 4x weakness is applied (and don't even mention what Jolteon will do to an unsuspecting Tornadus EX). But that's all wishful thinking. Any pokemon with single energy attachments and fair damage output for said energy count (30 for 1 energy for example) can benefit from Vileplime. Whether it's worth the deckspace for dedicate a Stage 2 for is a push, though, if you ask me. Powerful ability? Yes, indeed, but it'll only be useful in multi-type decks like Six Corners or gutsy Eeveelution users (like myself). The issue here, though, is that you can usually use other heavy hitting pokemon without Stage 2 assistance (Vileplume) and multiple energy types. Consistency is the name of the game these days (and always has been).

On the flip side, Vileplume could perhaps find a partner in Darkrai EX, using various other types as techs. Darkrai's ability solves the Catcher bait problem by giving Vileplume a free retreat, and colorless energy users that hit for "small" damage can be used so as to not throw the energy line into disarray.

But on the flip-FLIP side, the Ability-locking Garbodor from the previous Dragon Blade/Blast set can completely shut it all down.

But on the flip-FLIP-FLIP side, most every deck will probably run 4x Tool Scrappers, anyways.

To sum it all up, Vileplume is a very interesting card and will see many people attempting to use it. Whether or not it'll make a heavy impact on the format as many others are believing it will, I'm skeptical. There's a lot of factors that play a role here, and until it sees the testing days, I'm going to stay neutral on this card. Will I try it, myself, though? Most definately!!

Bisharp37 said:
I'm fairly certain that the bright look ninetails won't see as much play as people think it will. But even if it does it only has 90 HP and Vulpix has even less...So it gets OHKO/Catchered then KOed by almost anything that will be in this format.

The reason that people are liking Ninetales w/ Bright Look is because of Devolution Spray, which is essentially the same as reusable Catchers. The same hype applies with the Roserade, which allows you to search for any one card in your deck upon evolving it. Ninetales also combos well with Amonguss (sp?) from Next Destinies, which again benefits from Devolution Spray. However, like you, I am also skeptical or how it'll turn out. Like many others, I will be all over the Ninetales/Amonguss idea and repeatedly test it (among a couple other deck ideas I have when Dragons Exalted comes out). Until then, I'll be patient and not overhype anything.

PS - What do you want to bet that the prerelease promo will BE that Ninetales? After all, there are twi different artworks of the same card, similiar to how Volcarona was with Dark Explorers.
 
Bob The Magical Penguin said:
What is the third pack (in the middle). It has a glowing horn or something covering the CAR in TRADING CARD GAME. It doesn't match any of the pack artworks, but it has the green hexagons up at the top. I'm pretty sure that there aren't 5 pack artworks per set, unless there is a 1/1000000000 chance. V

This is really making me curious know, maybe they replaced one of the four we've seen. (Or maybe this image is older and one of them is a replacement)
 
Wes1234 said:
PS - What do you want to bet that the prerelease promo will BE that Ninetales? After all, there are twi different artworks of the same card, similiar to how Volcarona was with Dark Explorers.

Unless, like Volcarona, Ninetails will be the prerelease promo card.
 
I think the prerelease promo is gonna be the alternate art Rayquaza that came with Pokemon Conquest in Japan. Since it's the debut set of the {DRG} type, It only makes sense that the PR promo would be {DRG} type.
 
Puff said:
I think the prerelease promo is gonna be the alternate art Rayquaza that came with Pokemon Conquest in Japan. Since it's the debut set of the {DRG} type, It only makes sense that the PR promo would be {DRG} type.

Yes, but Dark Explorers was supposed to be focoused mainly around Dark Types and the promo was fire type.
 
Bob The Magical Penguin said:
Hope theres a better promo with the blister. What is the third pack (in the middle). It has a glowing horn or something covering the CAR in TRADING CARD GAME. It doesn't match any of the pack artworks, but it has the green hexagons up at the top. I'm pretty sure that there aren't 5 pack artworks per set, unless there is a 1/1000000000 chance. Vileplume is cool, play is going to suck with this.

Maybe a new card pack art? Its got the green hex so its def a BW pack from dragons exalted. Sometimes those blisters have sampling packs that have different art but it would say on the front it came with a sample pack. Lolz maybe TPCI is trying to mess with us, guess we wont know until it comes out or it decides to show itself later online!

olimar1023 said:
Unless, like Volcarona, Ninetails will be the prerelease promo card.

I have had a good feeling too that our prerelease promo is gonna be the ninetails promo from the japanese dragon booster boxes. HA I wish in my wildest dreams that it would be shiny rayquaza for our promo. :p How B.A. would that be I they did that? X'D That would be the greatest prerelease ever.
 
Shiningmilotic said:
Maybe a new card pack art? Its got the green hex so its def a BW pack from dragons exalted. Sometimes those blisters have sampling packs that have different art but it would say on the front it came with a sample pack. Lolz maybe TPCI is trying to mess with us, guess we wont know until it comes out or it decides to show itself later online!

Yeah. Probably a sampling pack. I doubt that we'll get Chandelure with it, so it might not be the final packaging image or an error. I've also looked at some of the older blister packs like this, and the middle pack was behind the sampling pack, so you could be right.
 
I think Vileplume can be good with 1 or 2 aerodactyl on the bench you can play with basic pokemon who hit for just 1 energy for 30.

Rayquaza (basic not ex) + 1 aerodactyl can OHKO any Dragons
Sawk + 2 aerodactyl can OHKO Darkrai with eviolite
And we can find a lot of basic pokemon who hit for 20-30 with 1 or energies

We can do a good 6 corner deck with vileplume and aerodactyl. Yes this deck can be slow because you need your vileplume in play and 1 aerodactyl but the format is slower too with less search and draw so I think it is a playable deck.
 
Keeper Of Night said:
Card scraps may start raining after an explosion like that.
That never happened when people ran Magnezone, and it's not going to happen now.
 
Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
That never happened when people ran Magnezone, and it's not going to happen now.

It was a joke, Reshiram is fire type; hence the wording "explosion".
Plus Magnezone usually never went over 200 damage for his attack, Reshiram EX would be doing 600 to Vileplume.
 
It's called "overkill".
Reshiram EX using Brave Fire over Glinting Fang on a Vileplume is overkill.
Magnezone dumping every energy just to take the last prize is overkill.
 
Technically no it isn't, since that is the minimum you can do when attacking for the kill. You need only do a Glinting Claw; a Brave Fire is overboard.
Same thing with burning every energy in play for Magnezone when you only need to do 2 or 3.
 
So Entei Raikou Legend with 12 PlusPowers (4 Pluspower 4 Junk Arm 4 Item Finder) a Black Belt attacking Palkia Dialga Legend with this Vileplume in play would do oh I don't know 15000 damage? Uh...ouch.
 
Dark Void said:
So Entei Raikou Legend with 12 PlusPowers (4 Pluspower 4 Junk Arm 4 Item Finder) a Black Belt attacking Palkia Dialga Legend with this Vileplume in play would do oh I don't know 15000 damage?

And I thought 600 was bad...

Dark Void said:
Uh...ouch.

No kidding...
 
ERL does base 90
12 PlusPowers adds 120
Black Belt adds another 40

You're up to 250
First x4 weakness brings it to 1000
Second x4 weakness brings it to 4000

So not only have you brought up an utterly stupid and impractical situation, but your math is also wrong.
 
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