(2) 'EX Battle Boost' leaks, ‘CoroCoro’ unleashes a torrent of new information [7/10]

[CMP]

Is it just me, or is this a lot of Pokemon revealed so far with three months still left until release? It feels like the D/P and B/W hype periods didn't have this many, or is my memory just bad?

Here's a good list for comparisons sake. It lists the dates which Pokémon were revealed prior to the release of their specific gen.

Looking at the timelines, it does appear that the sixth generation is most similar to the fifth, though at this point there weren't so many revealed.

I know the even-numbered gens tend to be smaller, but could the reveal pattern mean that the sixth generation is going to break that trend and introduce a number of Pokémon more similar to Hoenn or Unova?

At this rate, if a small number of new monsters is going to happen, we can either expect a dry spell, or we'll know a majority of the 'dex before release.

 

[Metalizard]

ehh... Still feels weird Xerneas is pure-type and Yveltal is dual-typed. But the types make sense, after Fairy being revealed, it was obvious Xerneas would be at least part Fairy, and Dark/Flying for Yveltal was obvious since the beginning (at least for me)...

All the new pokémon look nice with Pangoro being the coolest for me... and Malimar is indeed an interesting pokémon due to its weirdness...

Also, I still think the fairy-type that looks like a bird, should be Fairy/Flying as it seems it can fly in the scans but wtv...

 

[Zaqix]

Is it just me, or is this a lot of Pokemon revealed so far with three months still left until release? It feels like the D/P and B/W hype periods didn't have this many, or is my memory just bad?

Here's a good list for comparisons sake. It lists the dates which Pokémon were revealed prior to the release of their specific gen.

Looking at the timelines, it does appear that the sixth generation is most similar to the fifth, though at this point there weren't so many revealed.

I know the even-numbered gens tend to be smaller, but could the reveal pattern mean that the sixth generation is going to break that trend and introduce a number of Pokémon more similar to Hoenn or Unova?

At this rate, if a small number of new monsters is going to happen, we can either expect a dry spell, or we'll know a majority of the 'dex before release.

The thing is, this time unlike any other generation, they games are being released worldwide at the same day...I think they're using this strategy for that reason because they can't rely on the trickle-down-from-Japan method

 

[Pomchu190]

Xerneas being fairy is very disapointing, not only because I dislike fairy types, but Grass/Fairy or Steel/Grass was the obvious choice here.

Meanwhile we have a Dark/Flying Death Pokemon that knows an attack called Death Wing. I know who I'm getting.

Also Makia is the first non DW pokemon to have contrary. Intresting.

How can you dislike something that you've never had the chance to actually use or even see in-game?

 

[Raptor9229]

Xerneas being fairy is very disapointing, not only because I dislike fairy types, but Grass/Fairy or Steel/Grass was the obvious choice here.

Meanwhile we have a Dark/Flying Death Pokemon that knows an attack called Death Wing. I know who I'm getting.

Also Makia is the first non DW pokemon to have contrary. Intresting.

How can you dislike something that you've never had the chance to actually use or even see in-game?

They just do not like the idea of a pure fairy type legendary? Though we still have not had a poison type legendary, maybe one will be introduced this gen as well? Perhaps the Mascot of the third version will be poison? Xerneas still looks cool to me, a mythical deer that represents life and sort of looks like a prehistoric deer. Hmm, life and destruction.

 

[Pomchu190]

Shushupu is clearly a plague doctor, between the face, healing theme and perfume theme, which is amazing. I always wanted one as a pokemon, and this might be the first cute, pink, fluffy pokemon I'd consider team material. Of course, its evolution could possibly be a lot more menacing, who knows?

Doesn't Shushupu also remind you of the Poughkeepsie mask? Or am I the only one who sees it?

 

[Salamencetrainer34]

I think Skrelp and Clauncher will be like Shelmet and Karrablast, if you trade one to the other version, it evolves.

 

[Pomchu190]

One thing I've been disappointed in the releases so far is the fact that, besides Sylveon, we haven't seen any new evolutions or pre-evos for old pokemon. It would be kinda mean (IMO) if they make Sylveon the only one because ever since they released Sylveon early, it had given me hope that more pokemon would get evos. PARTICULARY, my little one stage buddies who are overlooked cuz they're "weak" ie Spinda, Farfetch'd etc....I really hope that they start showing some soon, it would be awesome if it's like Gen 4 and has a LOT of prior pokemon get evos/prevos...One can wish, eh?

This has me quite disappointed as well. I am hoping that they bring in some new evos for older Pokemon as well!

 

[CyberCat5555]

Not a big fan of the legendaries now. They seem a bit bland with what they do and their types, like 3 or 4 other Pokemon do those exact same things. Maybe the other legendaries will be more original.

We haven't had any legendaries that are directly life and destruction before.
I don't really see how that's unoriginal.
For their types, its quite simple. Dark is obvious for Yveltal, I mean it's called the Destruction Pokemon. However for Xern, for me it looks like Fairy is the 'purehearted, good' counterpart to Dark's corrupted, evil side.
They're basically the best types to represent a 'good vs evil' theme.
(also, you say you don't like them anymore... I'm just guessing you're butthurt Xern didn't end up a Steel or Electric, or that your precious DNA theme didn't happen)

Altho it does make me wonder... what would the Zmon be? maybe it could be something that keeps Xerneas from growing too much stuff and Yveltal from destroying too much stuff?
Maybe there won't be a Zmon. Always a possibility.

Nope, not butthurt at all, I just think that the "Life vs Death" and the "Good vs Evil" trope is a bit plain. I still think that the legendaries look cool, just what they represent is not interesting nor unique.

As for legendaries that do the same thing, Landorus and Celebi (to an extent) also help thing grow and give life, while Tornadus, Thundurus and Mewtwo cause death and destruction, also, Reshiram and Zekrom have the power to socrch the whole world with fire/electricty (in their B2W2 dex entries), but chose not to.

For the DNA theory, I still think that DNA will be a critical plot device, possibly with "Team Flair/Flare" trying to obtain the DNA of Xern/Yvel and somehow use it to get a lot of money, possibly by creating a new and improved version of Xern/Yvel that they can control. The Japanese logos for X and Y still have a DNA double helix in them, and it still seems very important.

As for "Z-mon" I don't think there will be a Z-mon, there is no counter or foil to creation/destruction, but I think the sequel(s) will have Mewtwo's new forme and the unrevealed Mew-like form as the version mascots because Mewtwo has the same stat total as all the other version mascots, also because of Mewtwo getting a new signature move in gen 5 and all of the promotion it's getting. But it's all still speculation.

However, the only thing I cannot except is Pancham's evolution. It's...just...so...meh.

 

[Pomchu190]

How can you dislike something that you've never had the chance to actually use or even see in-game?

They just do not like the idea of a pure fairy type legendary? Though we still have not had a poison type legendary, maybe one will be introduced this gen as well? Perhaps the Mascot of the third version will be poison? Xerneas still looks cool to me, a mythical deer that represents life and sort of looks like a prehistoric deer. Hmm, life and destruction.

I wasn't talking about the legendary typing, but the typing in general. At this point, you can't really have anything concrete to not like a typing, unless you are really silly and state the obvious "pink", etc. Oh well, people are entitled to their own thoughts. I just don't get it...

 

[Inferchomp]

Hm? I'd say mythical deer over prehistoric.

Its antlers kind of remind me of a subspecies of Megaloceros a bit which were the largest deer to live and had huge freaking antlers.

Great Scott those are large and interesting deer.

I'd still say Mythical because of the fairy type though.

 

[Their Goominess]

We haven't had any legendaries that are directly life and destruction before.
I don't really see how that's unoriginal.
For their types, its quite simple. Dark is obvious for Yveltal, I mean it's called the Destruction Pokemon. However for Xern, for me it looks like Fairy is the 'purehearted, good' counterpart to Dark's corrupted, evil side.
They're basically the best types to represent a 'good vs evil' theme.
(also, you say you don't like them anymore... I'm just guessing you're butthurt Xern didn't end up a Steel or Electric, or that your precious DNA theme didn't happen)

Altho it does make me wonder... what would the Zmon be? maybe it could be something that keeps Xerneas from growing too much stuff and Yveltal from destroying too much stuff?
Maybe there won't be a Zmon. Always a possibility.

Nope, not butthurt at all, I just think that the "Life vs Death" and the "Good vs Evil" is a trope bit plain.

As for legendaries that do the same thing, Landorus and Celebi (to an extent) also help thing grow and give life, while Tornadus, Thundurus and Mewtwo cause death and destruction, also, Reshiram and Zekrom have the power to (in their B2W2 dex entries), but chose not to.

For the DNA theory, I still think that DNA will be a critical plot device, possibly with "Team Flair/Flare" trying to obtain the DNA of Xern/Yvel and somehow use it to get a lot of money, possibly by creating a new and improved version of Xern/Yvel that they can control. The Japanese logos for X and Y still have a DNA double helix in them, and it still seems very important.

Well we do have generations with godlike legendaries -time/space/antimatter and all. And then we've just had the whole philosophy truth/ideals thing.
And creation/destruction had to happen sometime, infact I'm quite glad they've gone a bit more plain with this gen, it makes a nice change.
for the 'legendaries doing the same thing' argument.
-Landorus fertilises soil, which isn't really the same thing as what Xerneas would do
-Celebi's main shtick is that it travels through time, infact there's only 2 'dex entries that specifically mention it growing things. (it can only revive plants which is not the same thing, and revive dead Celebi - this is probably one of those legendary powers that aren't really touched upon)
destruction:
-Tornadus/Thundurus - they only produce hurricanes/thunderstorms naturally, and they don't actually mean the damage they cause.
-Mewtwo - most of its dex entries talk about either how it was created/its the most powerful Pokemon/its savage heart, but I can't see one that explicitly mentions it destroys things purposefully (as Yveltal would)

I'm thinking of various things the legendaries could do in the plot. I've got several things:
-evil team catches them and say that 'Yveltal will destroy all this blahdiblah give us your money'
(knowing GF this could be the case)
-the legendaries get constantly annoyed by the antics of Team Flair/Flare, and eventually come and stop them
-this is a DNA plot: Team Flair/Flare get the DNA of whichever legendary is on the game, and use it to upgrade several existing Pokemon, making them more powerful (altho unobtainable).

here's a possibility: what if the thing we think is a double helix isn't actually a double helix, just a Pokemonworldthing that happens to resemble one. (you heard it here first)

 

[garbodorable]

I just saw the new evil team.
I can't believe in 2013 that antagonist's with a goal of getting money are still being created. This is ridiculous.

Why? Because stories about greed are no longer relevant in the world?

 

[slashman41]

We haven't had any legendaries that are directly life and destruction before.
I don't really see how that's unoriginal.
For their types, its quite simple. Dark is obvious for Yveltal, I mean it's called the Destruction Pokemon. However for Xern, for me it looks like Fairy is the 'purehearted, good' counterpart to Dark's corrupted, evil side.
They're basically the best types to represent a 'good vs evil' theme.
(also, you say you don't like them anymore... I'm just guessing you're butthurt Xern didn't end up a Steel or Electric, or that your precious DNA theme didn't happen)

Altho it does make me wonder... what would the Zmon be? maybe it could be something that keeps Xerneas from growing too much stuff and Yveltal from destroying too much stuff?
Maybe there won't be a Zmon. Always a possibility.

Nope, not butthurt at all, I just think that the "Life vs Death" and the "Good vs Evil" trope is a bit plain. I still think that the legendaries look cool, just what they represent is not interesting nor unique.

As for legendaries that do the same thing, Landorus and Celebi (to an extent) also help thing grow and give life, while Tornadus, Thundurus and Mewtwo cause death and destruction, also, Reshiram and Zekrom have the power to socrch the whole world with fire/electricty (in their B2W2 dex entries), but chose not to.

For the DNA theory, I still think that DNA will be a critical plot device, possibly with "Team Flair/Flare" trying to obtain the DNA of Xern/Yvel and somehow use it to get a lot of money, possibly by creating a new and improved version of Xern/Yvel that they can control. The Japanese logos for X and Y still have a DNA double helix in them, and it still seems very important.

As for "Z-mon" I don't think there will be a Z-mon, there is no counter or foil to creation/destruction, but I think the sequel(s) will have Mewtwo's new forme and the unrevealed Mew-like form as the version mascots because Mewtwo has the same stat total as all the other version mascots, also because of Mewtwo getting a new signature move in gen 5 and all of the promotion it's getting. But it's all still speculation.

However, the only thing I cannot except is Pancham's evolution. It's...just...so...meh.

Just because Xerneas creates things doesn't mean that he will necessarily protect them. He might just walk away once he's done, leaving Yveltal free to blow it all up. And the stuff that he creates might not be all that great. That's where the Z mascot would come in. It would destroy all of Xerneas' evil creations, while at the same time protecting the good ones from Yveltal.

That way, Xerneas and Yveltal would be depicted as neutral, and the Z mascot would be the true good guy.

 

[Reggie McGigas]

They just do not like the idea of a pure fairy type legendary? Though we still have not had a poison type legendary, maybe one will be introduced this gen as well? Perhaps the Mascot of the third version will be poison? Xerneas still looks cool to me, a mythical deer that represents life and sort of looks like a prehistoric deer. Hmm, life and destruction.

I wasn't talking about the legendary typing, but the typing in general. At this point, you can't really have anything concrete to not like a typing, unless you are really silly and state the obvious "pink", etc. Oh well, people are entitled to their own thoughts. I just don't get it...

I just do not like the idea of a pure fairy legendary, especially when it had alot better typings. Steel/Grass? Grass/Fairy? Steel/Fairy? Grass/Psychic?

Plus I don't like fairy type. Deal with it.

 

[Pomchu190]

I wasn't talking about the legendary typing, but the typing in general. At this point, you can't really have anything concrete to not like a typing, unless you are really silly and state the obvious "pink", etc. Oh well, people are entitled to their own thoughts. I just don't get it...

I just do not like the idea of a pure fairy legendary, especially when it had alot better typings. Steel/Grass? Grass/Fairy? Steel/Fairy? Grass/Psychic?

Plus I don't like fairy type. Deal with it.

I don't like Sound type. (Obviously not a real typing, my point is that you are disliking something we know nothing about, generally speaking - just as if there happened to be another type we do not yet know of.)

I just wanted to know why you don't like it - there is nothing here that I have to "deal" with. As I said though, you're entitled to your own opinion. lol

 

[shinysearcher]

We haven't had any legendaries that are directly life and destruction before.
I don't really see how that's unoriginal.
For their types, its quite simple. Dark is obvious for Yveltal, I mean it's called the Destruction Pokemon. However for Xern, for me it looks like Fairy is the 'purehearted, good' counterpart to Dark's corrupted, evil side.
They're basically the best types to represent a 'good vs evil' theme.
(also, you say you don't like them anymore... I'm just guessing you're butthurt Xern didn't end up a Steel or Electric, or that your precious DNA theme didn't happen)

Altho it does make me wonder... what would the Zmon be? maybe it could be something that keeps Xerneas from growing too much stuff and Yveltal from destroying too much stuff?
Maybe there won't be a Zmon. Always a possibility.

Nope, not butthurt at all, I just think that the "Life vs Death" and the "Good vs Evil" trope is a bit plain. I still think that the legendaries look cool, just what they represent is not interesting nor unique.

As for legendaries that do the same thing, Landorus and Celebi (to an extent) also help thing grow and give life, while Tornadus, Thundurus and Mewtwo cause death and destruction, also, Reshiram and Zekrom have the power to socrch the whole world with fire/electricty (in their B2W2 dex entries), but chose not to.

For the DNA theory, I still think that DNA will be a critical plot device, possibly with "Team Flair/Flare" trying to obtain the DNA of Xern/Yvel and somehow use it to get a lot of money, possibly by creating a new and improved version of Xern/Yvel that they can control. The Japanese logos for X and Y still have a DNA double helix in them, and it still seems very important.

As for "Z-mon" I don't think there will be a Z-mon, there is no counter or foil to creation/destruction, but I think the sequel(s) will have Mewtwo's new forme and the unrevealed Mew-like form as the version mascots because Mewtwo has the same stat total as all the other version mascots, also because of Mewtwo getting a new signature move in gen 5 and all of the promotion it's getting. But it's all still speculation.

However, the only thing I cannot except is Pancham's evolution. It's...just...so...meh.

I would like to comment on two things here.

1. "...DNA theme didn't happen)" - I can still see the DNA theme happening here, if it does happen. I'm no biologist, neither do I know that much of science, but I certainly know that DNA strands are a huge and influential part of what comes to life, and is a double-edged sword because it can also be harmful or destructive; take physical anomalies in humankind for example.

2. "...As for "Z-mon" I don't think there will be a Z-mon, there is no counter or foil to creation/destruction" - I want to hypothesize that there will be a "Z-mon" based on preservation, or even control. I find this quite logic, because nature's (and I mean nature excluding the acts of destruction that humanity can make to it) has the tendency of doing it (survival of the fittest, for example). I think this pokemon, if it exists, was created by our Lord Arceus (lol, I always wanted to say that) to maintain stability en perfection on what seems to be perfect and balanced, either transforming useless or unnecessary things into new things (like energy does, for example), or, I don't know, giving instructions to the living things (giving them their purpose of life? lol). I hope you guys understad this :S :/

I also wanted to share that I'm thinking that Citrus-boy will be Lumiose's Gym Leader.

*Celebrating my tenth post

 

[Xous]

Awesome news. The exclusives for X version are my favorites out of the ones revealed, so I'm really happy about that. In the past my "main" versions have almost always had my least favorite of the exclusive Pokémon, so finally getting the ones I like (at least at this point in time) is a huge plus.

Having confirmation on the Types of Xerneas and Yveltal (as well as confirmation of so much more information), and also being shown their classifications and their signature moves... So awesome. Although I agree with others who say creation / destruction is a cliché, it's something that had to be done eventually in the Pokémon world, and I'm glad they chose to do it with Xerneas and Yveltal. Looking forward to more information about their legends.

I absolutely love all of the newly-leaked Pokémon - some really cool designs and some ultra-cuteness-overload-level designs... There are going to be a lot of things I want to train this Generation.

 

[Reggie McGigas]

EDIT: Coballion, Articuno, Sigilyph, Emolga, and Victini reprinted

Spoiler

Better pics of chandalure EX, looks like it's 61/93

Edit 2:

 

[ForeignDude]

Wow that's a sweet looking Sigilyph!