(2) More B2W2 Info, Crystal Wall/Crystal Edge Translations + Musketeer Promos [6/15]

RE: (2) More B2W2 Info, Crystal Wall/Crystal Edge Translations + Muskedeer Promos [6/15]

Infinity said:
What do you mean there isn't a drawback? You only can have one. That's a drawback.
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A drawback would be something that would balance it out making it fair for both players. Even though you only have one in your deck, it still doesn't help your opponent in any way.
 
Just realized this said Muskedeer Promos

considered changing to Mousketeer but decided against it
 
RE: (2) More B2W2 Info, Crystal Wall/Crystal Edge Translations + Muskedeer Promos [6/15]

Cooltrainer Alan said:
Metalizard- I think you might be able to trade them as beasts, but they will be changed back to normal form and have the Dream World ability Defiant or Sheer Force.
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Not really. They are new data that doesn't exist in the previous games. It's not just a changed sprite. Think of them as separate pokémon. If there was placeholder data for them in BW1, I would believe they could be traded.
 
RE: (2) More B2W2 Info, Crystal Wall/Crystal Edge Translations + Muskedeer Promos [6/15]

These musketeer trio promos are gorgeous. I hope their abilities make them playable too.

I'm pretty indifferent towards the Ace Spec cards. Black/White Kyurem aren't very playable to begin with and having a broken non searchable card in your deck that you can only have one of won't help them very much I don't think.
 
RE: (2) More B2W2 Info, Crystal Wall/Crystal Edge Translations + Muskedeer Promos [6/15]

Broken Pokemon EX said:
These musketeer trio promos are gorgeous. I hope their abilities make them playable too.

I'm pretty indifferent towards the Ace Spec cards. Black/White Kyurem aren't very playable to begin with and having a broken non searchable card in your deck that you can only have one of won't help them very much I don't think.
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I actually think both W- Kyurem EX and B-Kyurem EX are very playable. Hitting 120 to Dragon types T2 for only{R}{C}{C}(W-Kyurem) and {L}{C}{C}(B-Kyurem) which is pretty insane, not to metion that with the Ace Spec Card W-Kyurem could be doing 220 to Dragons and 110 to non Dragons. Before anyone says Garchomp/Altaria wreaks this card let me also advised that Altaria can also be used with both W-Kyurem and B-Kyurem to make those Garchomps easliy OHKO'd. Also I wanted to add that pokemon tools are searchable.
 
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puddizzle said:
Seems like Virizion/Terrakion/Cobalion deal 50 more damage to DARK pokemon - that's the best i can create from overlaying the images.
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I agree. I can see the number "50" on each one.

Huh, more BW2 stuff. Sounds like fun. Bunch of little extra bits they threw in. Pretty good. Looking forward to it right now. No clue on whether they'll be great or if they'll fail, but I'm still looking forward to it.

All three of the Kanto Starters will come with False Swipe and Block as well as Frenzy Plant and Weather Ball for Bulbasaur, Blast Burn and Acrobatics for Charmander, and Hydro Cannon and Follow Me for Squirtle.
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This is epic.
 
The power creep is ridiculous. 300 HP? Garchomp is the only Pokemon I can think of that could compete with these ACE SPEC cards. I don't think the Musketeers with Justified will do too much to the metagame...the Terrakion will help out against Darkrai though.
 
...I just realized something terrifying.

If this ACE SPEC is a whole new category, that means it won't be a one-off for Kyurem only. There's going to be more in the future.

Uh oh.
 
Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
...I just realized something terrifying.

If this ACE SPEC is a whole new category, that means it won't be a one-off for Kyurem only. There's going to be more in the future.

Uh oh.
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Unless they make them for stage 2s. That would be nice.
 
My problem isn't that future ones will only exist on Basics. My problem is that future ones will exist at all. They'll probably be confined to specific species, which (as far as I can tell for the foreseeable future) will most likely be restricted to Legendary basics.

Even so, if a Stage 2 gets it, it's probably just going to be a specific Stage 2, not for everyone.
...You see where I'm going with this.
 
I'm actually rather pleased with the ACE SPEC cards, if only because it puts Milotic/Mienshao's playability up a notch.
Those Musketeer promos look awesome. Terrakion could easily be teched into Garchomp/Altaria to stop its Darkrai Problem.
BW2 News/Images: Meh. Keldeo's Resolution form is so.... so..... anticlimactic. It just changes sprites when it learns Secret Sword? How resoundingly disappointing.
 
Actually, both Darkrai/Hydreigon and Garchomp/Altaria can OHKO the one with 300 HP very easily, and the attack boost doesn't add up anything that crazy (well it can OHKO EXs, but if you're careful it won't matter), so I don't see Black and White Kyurem being played a lot just cuz of those 2 ACE-SPECS cards. Also, you can only run 1 of them, and without Junk Arm in the format, I don't think it will be that good. But we don't know the full set yet, so I might be wrong.
 
BW2 News/Images: Meh. Keldeo's Resolution form is so.... so.... anticlimactic. It just changes sprites when it learns Secret Sword? How resoundingly disappointing.
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He's just dolled up for his graduation, that's all.
 
Roronoa Zoro said:
Actually, both Darkrai/Hydreigon and Garchomp/Altaria can OHKO the one with 300 HP very easily, and the attack boost doesn't add up anything that crazy (well it can OHKO EXs, but if you're careful it won't matter), so I don't see Black and White Kyurem being played a lot just cuz of those 2 ACE-SPECS cards. Also, you can only run 1 of them, and without Junk Arm in the format, I don't think it will be that good. But we don't know the full set yet, so I might be wrong.
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Yes they can OHKO but can they do that by T2?
 
It doesn't need to. Neither Kyurem will be up and running by T2 anyway; even so, the first attack does only 120 damage to a Dragon-type, which is 20 short of Garchomp, unless a PlusPower is used.

But could they do that by T2? I don't doubt it.
 
Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
It doesn't need to. Neither Kyurem will be up and running by T2 anyway; even so, the first attack does only 120 damage to a Dragon-type, which is 20 short of Garchomp, unless a PlusPower is used.

But could they do that by T2? I don't doubt it.
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Although the attack for 150 will take a while to set up the first attack is what makes them dangerous.

1 {R} or {L}, DCE, PlusPower not that hard to get in hand by T2. Manually Evoling Garchomp or Hydreigon takes 3 turns and if you run rare candy you lose out on Gabite's search power.
 
Not necessarily. You can easily get 1 Garchomp and 1 Gabite out T2. Manually evolve 1 and Rare Candy the other. Just because you run Rare Candy for speed doesn't mean you lose out on the Gabite search. That is what makes the deck dangerous.
 
venasour x said:
Not necessarily. You can easily get 1 Garchomp and 1 Gabite out T2. Manually evolve 1 and Rare Candy the other. Just because you run Rare Candy for speed doesn't mean you lose out on the Gabite search. That is what makes the deck dangerous.
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I'm just B/W Kyurem EXs are playable. You lose consistancy.
 
I really don't see too much of a threat here. It's a nearly unsearchable card, that you can only run a single copy. Also we have a card coming in Dragons Exalted that can get rid of it, (Tool Scrapper) and the only thing worth mentioning it that can get it back from the discard is Sableye, which probably won't even be put with any White/Black Kyurem EX decks. Can't wait to see more Ace Specs cards, however. The concept seems cool.
 
Garchomp/Alteria + Tool Scrapper + Enhanced Hammer = Black and White Kyurem EX sill not being playable.

And nothing of value was lost.
 
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