(3) BW Starter Decks, BW Trailers, Play! Pokemon [8/4]

If only new pokémon are featured prior to NDex we can get Zorua and Zoroak only after we get it, because we need the Legendary Beats to get them!
 
ManhattanTheStarr said:
Zorua and Zoroark shouldn't have been event-only to begin with... smh. >.>

Quote for truth, this annoyed me greatly. I seriously don't know why'd they do this with the very FIRST Pokemon they showed from 5th gen. Oh well, there's always Pokesave >>
 
Offtopic: Someone said a Pokemon will be replacing Diglet what Pokemon is that? Also i forgot what is the difference between R/S/E and D/P/Pt contests? Ontopic: So is that thing about no old Pokemon to till the Ndex true if so? I'm sad i want old Pokemon like my fave lucario and others. But i think people will now start to get with Koromori in caves if they will replace zubats. Either way i do think zubats were annoying when i just wanted to get somewhere but i did have a care for them. I will at least try the musicals.
 
Moguryu, the mole, would most likely be the equivalent of Diglett. That's one "replacement" I'm glad about, since Moguryu looks cool and actually looks like a mole, wheras Diglett looked nothing like a mole, despite being the "mole" Pokemon...
 
SamuStar said:
If only new pokémon are featured prior to NDex we can get Zorua and Zoroak only after we get it, because we need the Legendary Beats to get them!

Maybe we'll be able to access the PokéShift before getting the National Dex and the Pokémon not in the Isshu Dex just won't register, like when you trade Pokémon not in the Johto Dex to HGSS.
 
Playerking95 said:
Offtopic: Someone said a Pokemon will be replacing Diglet what Pokemon is that?

Lol, I was probably the one who said that. xD
The Pokemon that's possibly replacing Diglet is Moguryu.

It looks WAY much more like a mole than Diglet, amirite?
 
ManhattanTheStarr said:
So you don't get tired of seeing Zubat, Geodude, Machop, Ponyta, Pikachu and DOZENS of other Pokemon over and over? This is like, the best thing since sliced bread! Now when we travel through Isshu, we won't have to see the same old Pokemon anymore. I just hope Game Freak recreates some of the older Pokemon (like the ones I listed) as replacements. So far, all we have is a replacement for Zubat and Diglet. WE NEED MORE.

wow no old pokes is like the best news ever!!!!
really excited for this games Big Grin

Most of the new Pokemon are extremely disapointing. Victini looks SO stupid. The two legends and the Zoroark line are ugly. Many of the new Pokemon are weird and uninteresting except for the starters and I haven't seen their highest stages yet.

Forget about the 2 Psychics that are version exclusive, I want Alakazam, Gengar, Magmortar, Abomasnow, Ursaring, Milotic, Muk and many other Gen 1-4 Pokemon. Using exclusively the new is horrible because that means they are going to shove the new ones doing our throats and nothing familiar will be in to use for the main game. This means there will little to no evolutions for older pokemon (Luvdisc evo, if it is one will be post-Isshu dex).

Remember back in Ruby and Sapphire, where many pokemon were unobtainable and you could not transfer from GSC? Those games ended being the worst games of the franchise by many people. This time its ALL new Pokemon and no old ones until you beat the game and so far it's not looking good. At least RSE had some familiar pokemon as well as good new ones. I think there will be new 5th Gen Pokemon that may be interesting, but for now I have lost all interest.
 
I think that's one of the reasons why the games will be Gen. V exclusive. They don't want you to breeze through the game using the Pokémon you already know are beasts. They want you to give the new ones a try and find out which of them are also powerful.

I doubt it will be like R/S. I'm sure after the National Dex there will be something like the PokéRader or Hoenn/Sinnoh Sound that will allow you to find some older Pokémon without needing to rely on just trading from another game. And unlike R/S, we already have DPPt and HGSS to trade from, whereas we had to wait for FRLF in Gen. III.
 
icyFREEZEdragon said:
wow no old pokes is like the best news ever!!!!
really excited for this games Big Grin

Most of the new Pokemon are extremely disapointing. Victini looks SO stupid. The two legends and the Zoroark line are ugly. Many of the new Pokemon are weird and uninteresting except for the starters and I haven't seen their highest stages yet.

Forget about the 2 Psychics that are version exclusive, I want Alakazam, Gengar, Magmortar, Abomasnow, Ursaring, Milotic, Muk and many other Gen 1-4 Pokemon. Using exclusively the new is horrible because that means they are going to shove the new ones doing our throats and nothing familiar will be in to use for the main game. This means there will little to no evolutions for older pokemon (Luvdisc evo, if it is one will be post-Isshu dex).

Remember back in Ruby and Sapphire, where many pokemon were unobtainable and you could not transfer from GSC? Those games ended being the worst games of the franchise by many people. This time its ALL new Pokemon and no old ones until you beat the game and so far it's not looking good. At least RSE had some familiar pokemon as well as good new ones. I think there will be new 5th Gen Pokemon that may be interesting, but for now I have lost all interest.

o_O I kinda agree with Reshiram and Zekrom being stupid/ugly looking. That's the main reason why I'm have trouble choosing between Black and White. >.> But anyways, there not being any past generation Pokemon is what makes B/W more original. Just like with FireRed/LeafGreen. They shoved 1st generation Pokemon down our throats. Why not 5th generation Pokemon? It's not like they can just make the same Pokemon over and over. Game Freak's design on Pokemon is constantly changing.
Not having any other older generation Pokemon in B/W might be a good thing. Don't judge it until you try it. ;)
 
ManhattanTheStarr said:
o_O I kinda agree with Reshiram and Zekrom being stupid/ugly looking. That's the main reason why I'm have trouble choosing between Black and White. >.> But anyways, there not being any past generation Pokemon is what makes B/W more original. Just like with FireRed/LeafGreen. They shoved 1st generation Pokemon down our throats. Why not 5th generation Pokemon? It's not like they can just make the same Pokemon over and over. Game Freak's design on Pokemon is constantly changing.
Not having any other older generation Pokemon in B/W might be a good thing. Don't judge it until you try it. ;)

And what about somebody returning to Pokemon? They might get turned off from having a ALL Gen V roster to beat the game with and no familiar pokemon.
 
And what about somebody returning to Pokemon? They might get turned off from having a ALL Gen V roster to beat the game with and no familiar pokemon.

HURR, DAT SUX FOR THEM. :B

Loljk, but really, they should just try and get used to the new Pokemon. And if they don't, then they can just stick with their older Pokemon games... I really don't have a suggestion for that... besides quitting Pokemon. :x
 
Woohoo there's hope for the franchise now. No more ripoffs from old generations like what happened in Gen IV. New monsters all the way till post-National dex. YES. Everything's new :D

And the 3D models of Reshiram and Zekrom are really nice. Especially the generator tail with the rotating generator with all of the blue glow and sparks. =P

But about the part of old fans getting turned off. Gamefreak's intention was for players, both old and new, to experience Pokemon in a totally refreshed dimension like in the Red and Blue days. Dunno whether it'll work though. I think it'll for me. But not for those who're nostalgia maniacs. Can't they just let go of the old ones for a bit and stop moaning so much?

Try the game first before anybody (if any) starts to complain again about how the new peeps suck and how the old ones rock. It's going to be pointless if people still continue to compare games between each generation. Obviously anybody who does so would most probably say that Gen 1 or 2 were the "most original". Why? Cos these old generations had NO predecessors to compare from. So they were obviously new and "original". Then people started to compare new generations with old ones and say that "hey they copied this and that" and "hey that's unoriginal". No matter how they create or design the new Pokemon, people will definitely draw similarities between the old and new (no matter how similar of different they actually are) and start to rant about Pokemon's going down the slope again.

But all because Gen 3 came into the picture and broke compatibility with the old ones BECAUSE OF HARDWARE LIMITATIONS they start to say that Gamefreak's beginning to suck. I'm sure that if they could connect all of those 3 gens back then together they surely would. But because of all of the vastly different programming methods involved in the first 2 gens and the third they couldn't. So I'm not so sure why people still complain about RSE. It seriously had the best soundtrack for a Pokemon game for the GBA's capabilities back then.

Yes every single generation was good in one sense, but bad in the other (for various reasons). Like Gen I had little variety as compared to the others, Gen II had a heavily-modified and cut-short version of Kanto which was kind of a sad thing for Red-Blue fans, Gen III had its compatibility cut off from the previous two due to hardware limitations in programming, Gen IV's (DPPt) soundtrack still sounded like GBA standard music, and Gen V's breaking of the Arceus-is-the-final-God-Pokemon barrier. But we should learn to look things in a more positive way, like Gen I was the one which started Pokemon, Gen II introduced full colour to the franchise, Gen III had the best soundtrack and had Pokemon Contests, Gen IV had a more complicated and deeper plot, and Gen V presented Pokemon in its best graphical form (3D, moving sprites, varying camera angles) so far.

Yea, so this is just my opinion. And sorry for the ranting.

But to me Gen V's going to be the truly revolutionizing series in the franchise.
 
I like it this way, at the start we can focus on the new, then after the main storyline the old starts mixing with the new.

Does this mean that we won't be able to use dream smoke and upload our games to the online website until after we get the national dex?
 
Junichi Masuda read my mind. I truly want the feel of Red and Blue Versions again. I can still remember: " Wow! It's a Pokemon! At that time, i thought Ratata was fantastic, since it was the first i encountered. "
 
Maybe some of the TCG scans will give us some new pokemon :D. And guys...possibly couple more days till Mastery document leaks!!
 
Blizzz said:
Maybe some of the TCG scans will give us some new pokemon :D. And guys...possibly couple more days till Mastery document leaks!!

Lets hope so. I like trailer, and the face on the japanese boy's face when he sees Reshiram awaken. :D
 
Interesting because pokemon is definitely getting better all the time, i had a good feeling about this generation since it started it certainly looked like a revolution for the games, now i am not worried about the fact that many people will go disapointed about pokemon after playing heartgold/soulsilver and stop playing pokemon.
It is a nice idea of only new pokemon until you get the national Pokemon it si really good idea, but there is something i just cannnot understand
What will they do to pikachu?
He is probably the most famous pokemon after all, and almost the image of pokemon
 
Anyone else notice that Shikijika uses energy ball when fighting munna and chiramii?
Perhaps this means that Shikijika is a grass type, or at least part grass.
 
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