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8/26, Cessation Crystal
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Well, Cessation Crystal IMO has a horrible name, but the effects are good. It would work well in a deck with no Pokepowers or Pokebodies (Rai-eggs)
its very good indeed! i think power and body are going down fall, too many things stops them ( ces. crystal, septile ex, lati@s δ , BF, shiftry ex....)
good in polistall , eggs, and mawile + kingler δ combo
mew tric will have some problem if they cant prevent opponent from attaching ces. crystal
mew will be a easy prize for ur opponent without versatile!
good in polistall , eggs, and mawile + kingler δ combo
mew tric will have some problem if they cant prevent opponent from attaching ces. crystal
mew will be a easy prize for ur opponent without versatile!
Yet, it is a pokemon tool and only works when it is active. So, warp poin or warp energy can stop it. Furthermore, I think it can't block power and body too long as it is a pokemon tool. Once that pokemon is knocked out, it is discarded and you will need to search another cessation crystal. Thus, basically it works with pokemon which have high HP and powerful attacks so that the tool's effect can stay in play for a long time.
Personally, I don't think the overwhelmingly high Unlimited scores were merited. Gust of Wind = Benched Cessation-Crystal-Pokemon. It's very easy to work around, but there ARE several potent combos which come to mind.
I'da given Cessy a 6/10 in Unlimited, but meh, the reviews were good.
I'da given Cessy a 6/10 in Unlimited, but meh, the reviews were good.
RE: 8/26, Cessation Crystal
I both like and hate this cards, like because the number of PB based decks will be reduced, hate because of my poor little mew ex LM T_T
I was think of "no more claw or root effect" more then of "you can't use shedinja anymore"zwelgbelg said:
I both like and hate this cards, like because the number of PB based decks will be reduced, hate because of my poor little mew ex LM T_T
The reviews were good, but I seriously think that every single one of the reviewers overrated the card.
Does anyone remember Pidgeot δ? Everyone thought that it was going to have a huge impact on the format, stopping powers in their tracks, but nothing happened; Pidgeot δ had little effect. The reason? Powers make a deck's consistency. As the reviewers said, the only deck right now that doesn't use Powers/Bodies is Rai/Eggs, which at Worlds proved to be a bad choice. It has the problem that all non-power decks do... its inconsistencies late in the game. After the Castform gets KO'd, you're stuck with nothing but your one supporter a turn in order to get you the cards you need. Other decks can grab cards using their powers; a luxury you CANNOT get with Cessation Crystal. You're pretty much forced to get lucky late in the game when you run Cessation Crystal, which hurts your win% quite often. Ultimately, the decks that use Magcargo, Milotic δ, Fearow δ, Nidoqueen δ will be the ones to remain on top, granted they use Windstorm, due to consistency issues.
Does anyone remember Pidgeot δ? Everyone thought that it was going to have a huge impact on the format, stopping powers in their tracks, but nothing happened; Pidgeot δ had little effect. The reason? Powers make a deck's consistency. As the reviewers said, the only deck right now that doesn't use Powers/Bodies is Rai/Eggs, which at Worlds proved to be a bad choice. It has the problem that all non-power decks do... its inconsistencies late in the game. After the Castform gets KO'd, you're stuck with nothing but your one supporter a turn in order to get you the cards you need. Other decks can grab cards using their powers; a luxury you CANNOT get with Cessation Crystal. You're pretty much forced to get lucky late in the game when you run Cessation Crystal, which hurts your win% quite often. Ultimately, the decks that use Magcargo, Milotic δ, Fearow δ, Nidoqueen δ will be the ones to remain on top, granted they use Windstorm, due to consistency issues.
Works well with one of my decks, Dusmuk(currently run's 4)
Use cessation crystal with muk to stop mew ex from versitile, and also stops poke's/body's(flaredoce, mewtric, minx, flyzard, etc...) Great card.
Destroys lots of decks, and dosn't discard so quickly
SSL's rating~ 8 or 9/10
~SilverSeaLugia~
Use cessation crystal with muk to stop mew ex from versitile, and also stops poke's/body's(flaredoce, mewtric, minx, flyzard, etc...) Great card.
Destroys lots of decks, and dosn't discard so quickly
SSL's rating~ 8 or 9/10
~SilverSeaLugia~
zwelgbelg said:
omg LOL do u even know what polistall is?
if u put (only)politoed ex = polistall
if u put (only) shedinja = shedstall
i give it to mysteriuos fossil LOL
i will consider holon circles, mysteriuos shard too
I Do beLieVe that this Card Was overrated....
putting a tool trainer card might break the deck, on its trainer consistency..
everyone forgot that windstorm will be played.( but why? it also remove stadiums !!! )
have you ever tested such card to be useful in most cases? I cant see the scenario of playing mostly of this one in the game.
but Yes, raichu eggs will be benefited in this kind of card but will you let your weakness or low hp disappoint you?
i do know that some of you will play either 2 CC in a deck....
but It may result inconsistency...
putting a tool trainer card might break the deck, on its trainer consistency..
everyone forgot that windstorm will be played.( but why? it also remove stadiums !!! )
have you ever tested such card to be useful in most cases? I cant see the scenario of playing mostly of this one in the game.
but Yes, raichu eggs will be benefited in this kind of card but will you let your weakness or low hp disappoint you?
i do know that some of you will play either 2 CC in a deck....
but It may result inconsistency...
I Do beLieVe that this Card Was overrated....
putting a tool trainer card might break the deck, on its trainer consistency..
everyone forgot that windstorm will be played.( but why? it also remove stadiums !!! )
have you ever tested such card to be useful in most cases? I cant see the scenario of playing mostly of this one in the game.
but Yes, raichu eggs will be benefited in this kind of card but will you let your weakness or low hp disappoint you?
i do know that some of you will play either 2 CC in a deck....
but It may result inconsistency...
putting a tool trainer card might break the deck, on its trainer consistency..
everyone forgot that windstorm will be played.( but why? it also remove stadiums !!! )
have you ever tested such card to be useful in most cases? I cant see the scenario of playing mostly of this one in the game.
but Yes, raichu eggs will be benefited in this kind of card but will you let your weakness or low hp disappoint you?
i do know that some of you will play either 2 CC in a deck....
but It may result inconsistency...
RE: 8/26, Cessation Crystal
It'll be bigger, without a doubt, but its IMPACT will be similar. You're basically forcing yourself to not use the consistency that has worked for so long. Decks with searching may not ALWAYS come out on top, but I will bet you a lot that people will eventually fall back on power-oriented decks. Look at Japan, with the exception of Dark Tyranitar (which isn't a fair argument in this thread), power decks took the top places in all of Summer Road, and they had been playing with Cessation Crystal for quite some time.
Bodies are a less-important argument. I was arguing more on the basis of consistency, which, of course, comes from powers. I actually cannot think of a deck off the top of my head (although I figure there is one) that will actually be like "oh no! My bodies are gone! I'm screwed!"
Another quick Cessation Crystal? So are you telling me that you are seriously going to drop your supporter every turn in order to play a Castaway, which doesn't net you very much?
Noted. I wasn't trying to be absolute with Rai/Eggs. I was simply saying that when it comes to recognizable decks that will be seen in early championships, Rai/Eggs is the only one that'll be able to work with Crystal.
Japan? Summer Road? We aren't the only ones that play Pokemon.
:nonono: said:
It'll be bigger, without a doubt, but its IMPACT will be similar. You're basically forcing yourself to not use the consistency that has worked for so long. Decks with searching may not ALWAYS come out on top, but I will bet you a lot that people will eventually fall back on power-oriented decks. Look at Japan, with the exception of Dark Tyranitar (which isn't a fair argument in this thread), power decks took the top places in all of Summer Road, and they had been playing with Cessation Crystal for quite some time.
Bodies are a less-important argument. I was arguing more on the basis of consistency, which, of course, comes from powers. I actually cannot think of a deck off the top of my head (although I figure there is one) that will actually be like "oh no! My bodies are gone! I'm screwed!"
Another quick Cessation Crystal? So are you telling me that you are seriously going to drop your supporter every turn in order to play a Castaway, which doesn't net you very much?
Noted. I wasn't trying to be absolute with Rai/Eggs. I was simply saying that when it comes to recognizable decks that will be seen in early championships, Rai/Eggs is the only one that'll be able to work with Crystal.
Japan? Summer Road? We aren't the only ones that play Pokemon.
Kills so many things most of the decks out there are based around bodies and/or powers such as MMS. So I say great card but I dispise i when I play against someone who uses it
READ the card.
Cessation Crystl> Pidgeot end of discussion. No doubt that people are going to make decks geared to use Cessation Crystal.