#9: Obesity

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"Is the current rate of obesity in America really a problem? How would you tackle it if it is?"
 
Yes it is a problem, but I don't know what you without infringing on someone's liberty.
 
I say yes it is a problem. The only way to tackle it in my head is the people who are bigger need to be willing to do something.
 
Yeah big problem. The way for me to tackle it is to go to Mcdonalds
and get a Big Mac and get my mind off of it lol.
 
CuboneGirl98 said:
I say yes it is a problem. The only way to tackle it in my head is the people who are bigger need to be willing to do something.

Yeah, this. The "obese" people have to do something on their own. There are special programs for things like this, but the person has to make the steps necessary to get fit. I don't think there's a problem with being big, but those people you see whose weight just hangs off of them have a problem. I couldn't imagine living like that.
 
Yeah it's a problem.
The only way to resolve it is by getting on their case and ridiculing them about it.
One day, this world will be skinny again.
Mother Earth's gained a couple tons and it's up to us to deliver her NutriSystem meals to her every month.
VIVA LA SLIMFAST!
 
Yes it is a problem. Didn't use to be as much of a problem as people worked to live a few years back(aka more people on farms, fending for themselves). Of course this is from my perspective as my parents grew up in Oklahoma, one of the farming states. So most of the people they knew were fit.

Also, the health care system is not doing a good job of keeping its clients thin. All they do is overcharge you because you are "overweight". No programs to help or anything. Just more money. It may motivate some people to get fit, but a lot of others are too lazy to go and exercise or count calories or what not. There isn't really a way to fix the problem nationwide without limiting people's rights, as another person said.

For insight on how much an obese person can change, watch "The 650-Pound Virgin" (I think that's it) on TLC on Sunday. It was scary to see how much the guy lost. o_O
 
If this a problem?: Yes, but not as big of an issue as the economy or the war.

How do we fix it?: We need to start making foods that are good for us, and not just try to sell us Corn-Syrup and Corn-Fill shaped into food-like forms. Instead of genetically altering our Tomatoes into behemoths, why don't we get the FDA to crack down on the makers of food and have them try to make cheap food that is actually good for people. It is wrong to have to pay more for a bag of ten carrots than a box of Twinkies.
 
DawnOfXatu said:
If this a problem?: Yes, but not as big of an issue as the economy or the war.

How do we fix it?: We need to start making foods that are good for us, and not just try to sell us Corn-Syrup and Corn-Fill shaped into food-like forms. Instead of genetically altering our Tomatoes into behemoths, why don't we get the FDA to crack down on the makers of food and have them try to make cheap food that is actually good for people. It is wrong to have to pay more for a bag of ten carrots than a box of Twinkies.
Are you suggest that the government fund research into making that possible? That's an awful large amount of money just to make cheap food healthy.

I'd prefer educating the public.
 
It's even worst in Australia which was labeled as the fattest country in the world. The main things are education then motivation and by golly we have progress. However we can provide education, the motivation is up to everyone else (doesn't mean we can't give them a bit of a push though)
 
You know what would fix stuff? If it was easier to make/buy healthy food compared to the quick cheap snacks we have now.

Look at it, for just a few coins I get a full meal from fries with a burger and a fizzy drink on the side. If I want something healthy that also tastes good, I need to spend quite a while in the kitchen, or pay a bucketload at a restaurant. Not something I favor.
 
You people are all blaming the obese people, even though one of the largest causes of obesity is the lack of money. When you are poor a dollar for a hamburger seems great... This is not a problem that is all by itself, it has roots in health-care, poverty, and the governments inability to regulate the food in any effective way.

Zyflair: You can educate the public, but estimations say that diabetes is going to kill a significant percentage of the American population. I'd rather fix this first.
 
Well I can understand the money issue, but with people who have a good living and can actually choose between a greasy burger at Mcdonalds for a dollar or get the salad, I'd say it's their fault for choosing the unhealthy over healthy

And myself eat loads of crapp but I burn it all off by doing sports so for ppl who are obese, excersise can't hurt. BTW alot of people are fat because they don't get enough nutrients they need, not just because of the greasy foods they consume. That and stress can be a factor so it really depends on what they're going through so blaming any one specific isn't right. Sometimes you just have to put on somebody elses shoes for a change.
 
You can educate people all you want, but that's not always going to get them to change. There are mental problems that some have, where food consumes them. They enjoy food too much, and cannot get enough of it. No amount of education can help that.

There's a lot more that needs to be done, especially for those who live in poverty. It's hard to eat well, if you don't have the money to do so.
 
DawnOfXatu said:
Zyflair: You can educate the public, but estimations say that diabetes is going to kill a significant percentage of the American population. I'd rather fix this first.
Indeed, prevention is better than having deal with diabetes, but what you suggest is rather not only going to take time, but take alot of money. My suggestion is already partly employed, as indicated in an article from Times MAgazine

Take weight loss. Turner is considered morbidly obese — you don't have to work in a hospital to know that's bad. That's why she's on a diet; in fact, her entire department is on a diet. Turner and a few of her co-workers are enrolled in the hospital's Lifestyle 180 program, an innovative approach to good health that uses cooking classes, exercise sessions and yoga to educate patients who are obese or who have high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes or multiple sclerosis about how to eat better, become more physically active, manage stress and, ultimately, prevent what doctors call a major health event.

"It's what we talk about all day: changing what we eat," Turner says. Halfway into the 48 hours of sessions, spanning six weeks, she has lost 9 lb., and the good-health philosophy is changing her everyday behavior. She parks farther away when she goes to work or visits a mall. She looks at food labels and thinks before she eats. As an employee of the Cleveland Clinic, Turner is luckier than most: the hospital is covering the cost of her participation in the program. She even gets a "tool kit," complete with yoga mat, recipe book and tips for navigating the food aisles. All Turner and the others have to do is show up.
I realize that education and weight is not foolproof, but it's what we have; if you aren't motivated enough to do it, then it's your issue. If we're talking about the poor, then go ahead and try to provide for them.

But seriously, if you sacrifice your health, knowing that it was a bad choice, don't expect much pity.
 
I believe that America should stop selling fatty food to overweight humans. I know this will cost alot of money but in the end people will start dyeing and soon enough the economy will fall down as not enough people live to fuel it.

Or, they could start a programme where all overweight humans have to go and do weight loss regimes until they are there sufficient BMI.

I only say this as it is ridiculous how this is happening.
 
Obesity isn't a problem. It'a an issue. There is a difference.

An issue is something we do that is bad and makes our lives cumbersome
A problem is a difficulty in our everyday lives that we didn't directly cause.

Like Sarah said, a healthy and smart person can eat whatever they want, and still be healthy because they are active.

Once on the news, I heard that a man was suing McDonalds because his young daughters weighed like 400 pounds from eating there. How is it McDonalds' fault? HE was the one who bought it for them, and THEY were the ones who ate it. McDonalds doesn't force you to eat there food 24/7, only you can do that.

I admit that eating healthy can be expensive (5...5...dollar....) but if you are smart, you can get by that. This is what I had for dinner yesterday:

Store-bought chicken Ramen: $.10 1 minute preperation
8 Oz. of 1% milk $ 2.50/8 = $ .31 5 second preparation
4 Oz. Of mixed vegetables $3.00/8 = $ .38 2 minute preparation

So I got:
Protien
Fruit/Vegetables
Grains
Dairy
Full Stomach

For $.79 and about 3 minutes. Healthy, cheap and fast.

That along with excersize is more than enough to keep the world healthy, it IS NOT a problem, it is an indivisuals issue.
 
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