A Little Thing Called Common Sense
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I agree with you on just about everything. It's only bad because that's how we interpret it.
It's a copy/paste of one he put on the gym.
Lolmonster said:
Doesn't really matter. Except they're actually stricter at PokeGym than they are on here (surprisingly). The point is, there are rules online and these are the common sense rules of life, so it doesn't balance out. ;p
dmaster out.
They aren't strickter imho. That's only because a lot of retards like to get threads like this locked up fast because they won\'t accept someone else's opinion, leaving no room for any discussion at all (besides flaming of course)
afstandopleren said:
No, they are. If you don't see the plain difference, you obviously don't pay attention to your surroundings and read carefully enough or you don't spend enough time online. However, this is getting off-topic, so that's all we should have to say on that.
For this, the biggest thing I agree with is that the Parents are the main cause of the problem. Seriously, 99% of the time, which is quite sad. Biggest one I don't agree with is the Religion part, but that was already expected...
dmaster out.
I agree with several all of these things in your post.
The thing about language? I completely agree. Ever heard of Keroro Gunsou, or as known in the states, Sgt. Frog.
It's a children's anime centered around these weird alien frogs. Anyhoo, they say *that word* quite often. Of course, Funimation censored *that word*, and changed it to crud.
Parents shouldn't have to be protective over what their small children hear/see on TV, because their toddlers/infants DON'T NEED TO BE WATCHING TV IN THE FIRST PLACE.
The thing about language? I completely agree. Ever heard of Keroro Gunsou, or as known in the states, Sgt. Frog.
It's a children's anime centered around these weird alien frogs. Anyhoo, they say *that word* quite often. Of course, Funimation censored *that word*, and changed it to crud.
Parents shouldn't have to be protective over what their small children hear/see on TV, because their toddlers/infants DON'T NEED TO BE WATCHING TV IN THE FIRST PLACE.
d master342 said:
Well, I think the mods worry about a little too much on PokeGym. I try to stay out of trouble the best I can, but I don't think they're consistent. You can get away with something one day and get an infraction for it the next. Not all of the mods are on the same page, which leads to the members being confused about how much is tolerated. On top of that, the mods even break the rules. (I'm looking at [pun]'chu[/pun] PokePop!) >_>
I'm confused, though. Do you not agree with what I've said on the religious part, or are you saying you don't agree with people like those spoken about in that section?
Anyway, I've got a lot of discussion out of this on other sites, so I know there's no way this topic is done. Keep the replies and opinions coming.
The Way We Treat Others: Why do people treat others poorly? Simple, not everybody was created equal. People deserve some of the same basic rights, but in the end everybody is unequal and it is human nature to point that out. I am taller than you, therefore I make a shortness comment, you are Asian and I make a comment about that, in the end I still respect you as a human being. There are two problems, one are the actual jerks, who will actually pick on someone just for the sake of it, and the other problem are over-sensitive people. Somebody shoves you so you confront him? How is that common sense? The person was not picking on you, which makes confrontation an extreme reaction. People just need to stop thinking that the other person is picking on them, and start thinking that maybe they are just goofing around. I would say that less than one percent of kids are actually bullies. Recently it seems that everybody thinks that they are being bullied and oppressed, which is simply not the case.
Parents: This really comes down to what type of kid you get. I don't blame the parents very often when something goes wrong with a kid, because I know people who have had childhoods which fringe on what you consider ethical, and they are some of the nicest people around. Parents think that everything that they do has an adverse effect on their kids, but in the end as long as you were there to tell them when they did good, and when they did bad, you did your job as a parent.
Censorship: Censorship is a dead tool, nowadays kids have already mastered the ultimate repertoire of bad words by about age ten. Also I've never seen a single instance where a person actually acts in a violent way because of violent shows and games.
Language: We have bad words so that we can convey emotions, I don't know exactly who, when, or where the list of censored words was created but it seems to work. As for your argument regarding two synonyms try that with a black person, see their reaction.
Nudity: I am actually having a difficult time coming up with a response to this, but I'll be sure to come back and post it when it comes to me.
Religion: I am an avid foe of organized Religion. Having an old guy tell you about what he thinks about a book that has been translated a couple of times about stuff that has supposedly happened thousands of years ago, does not strike me as a form of enlightenment. The more people cling to their religion, the more it shows that they do not want to look for the answers themselves. The Bible is supposedly telling us right from wrong, but all it really is, is just a pile of stories that humans can relate to, which tell us how to behave. Honestly the Bible and Santa are the same thing for different age groups, "Be good or you won't get your presents/get into heaven"
Common Sense: Common sense is a persons ability to distinguish between good and bad. All you have done is point out places where logic is unable to explain why something is bad, which is only half of the battle. Now can you logically explain why something is good?
Parents: This really comes down to what type of kid you get. I don't blame the parents very often when something goes wrong with a kid, because I know people who have had childhoods which fringe on what you consider ethical, and they are some of the nicest people around. Parents think that everything that they do has an adverse effect on their kids, but in the end as long as you were there to tell them when they did good, and when they did bad, you did your job as a parent.
Censorship: Censorship is a dead tool, nowadays kids have already mastered the ultimate repertoire of bad words by about age ten. Also I've never seen a single instance where a person actually acts in a violent way because of violent shows and games.
Language: We have bad words so that we can convey emotions, I don't know exactly who, when, or where the list of censored words was created but it seems to work. As for your argument regarding two synonyms try that with a black person, see their reaction.
Nudity: I am actually having a difficult time coming up with a response to this, but I'll be sure to come back and post it when it comes to me.
Religion: I am an avid foe of organized Religion. Having an old guy tell you about what he thinks about a book that has been translated a couple of times about stuff that has supposedly happened thousands of years ago, does not strike me as a form of enlightenment. The more people cling to their religion, the more it shows that they do not want to look for the answers themselves. The Bible is supposedly telling us right from wrong, but all it really is, is just a pile of stories that humans can relate to, which tell us how to behave. Honestly the Bible and Santa are the same thing for different age groups, "Be good or you won't get your presents/get into heaven"
Common Sense: Common sense is a persons ability to distinguish between good and bad. All you have done is point out places where logic is unable to explain why something is bad, which is only half of the battle. Now can you logically explain why something is good?
Reader's Challenge: I ask of you to find me one verse in the Bible that says I'll go to heck for listening to rock music. Find one, just one. When you find that, let me know.-
It's not the actual rock music that would get you to hell but it is the influence it may have on you.
It's not the actual rock music that would get you to hell but it is the influence it may have on you.
Influence? What kind of influence exactly? yeah ofcourse...Shuckle the Snail said:
Anyway I have one question left: ''Believing'' the bible, people go to hell, after a time it would be full of people right? (just like ''heaven'') Where do the people go to then?
Btw, why is the word ''he||'' censored? It's just a normal word so it must be fine then, right?
The influence it might have is the talk of gangs, murder, and stealing for example which may lead people to doing that since it is considered cool.Pokequaza said:
God made a place for everyone so if you are going to Heaven there is room for you there, and if you go to he11 then there is room for you there.
And i'm not sure why he11 is censored because it is a place. They should Censore disneyland if he11 is, but probaly because some people use it like what the he11.
If your god REALLY loved everyone, then, logically, there would be no hell.
Ah yes of course god loves everybody, that's the reason why a lot of people are suffering from hunger and diseases, right? One thing's for sure, he doesn't raise its popularity with this.Paper PokeMaster said:
But anyway, can anyone answer my question, I still haven't gotten an answer to this: ''People are coming and coming (if you don't believe in reincarnation) and if we find a way to escape all disasters and such. And eventually the heaven/he11 will be full then? Or is there an infinite space?''
@Pokequaza-It's "supposedly" infinite space, although that "infinite" space could seem "infinite" although it may hold an incredibly large number of people-say, a few quadrillion souls or so.
For the reader's challenge:
Pile o' *word*:1:1-3:
Thou shalt not listeneth to suggestive sounds, lest thou face thine consequences.
Where is this verse? On the sticky note that those people who say "don't listen to that devil music" put on their Bibles. You won't go to heck for listening to "evil" music btw. What about those over-protective parents who wish to censor television so that their kids will grow up good? I KNOW that I've seen a verse that says not to live in ignorance, I just can't remember which one.
And I pretty much agree with all your points, and I also find the language-fiasco stupid. I've known about a bunch of the "words" since I was about 4 or 5 because my parents grew up in the country on a farm. Maybe they censor language because they don't want people talkin' like hillbillies or Texans.
For the reader's challenge:
Pile o' *word*:1:1-3:
Thou shalt not listeneth to suggestive sounds, lest thou face thine consequences.
Where is this verse? On the sticky note that those people who say "don't listen to that devil music" put on their Bibles. You won't go to heck for listening to "evil" music btw. What about those over-protective parents who wish to censor television so that their kids will grow up good? I KNOW that I've seen a verse that says not to live in ignorance, I just can't remember which one.
And I pretty much agree with all your points, and I also find the language-fiasco stupid. I've known about a bunch of the "words" since I was about 4 or 5 because my parents grew up in the country on a farm. Maybe they censor language because they don't want people talkin' like hillbillies or Texans.
I think that eventually, some religious scholar will find a way to explain away all this.
Sometimes, people I know will tell me that "God loves everyone" then they hand me a flyer or something.
If "God lves everyone," why does AIDS exist?
Sometimes, people I know will tell me that "God loves everyone" then they hand me a flyer or something.
If "God lves everyone," why does AIDS exist?
Ah yes, that's the answer I was waiting for. If there's a infinite space in the heaven, why can't we state then there's an infinite amount of space around us too, you know the universe, omniverse and whole stuff around. Then we're also able to state time can be infinite too, right? Let's say everything always already existed and always will, no god was needed to ''create'' something. Here you are; religion rejecting itself...ragingphantom said: