Anomynous close US Government site, Megaupload closed. SOPA

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This has been going on for a bit but sites like Craigslist and Wikipedia have already closed theyre site for a day (on the 18th) so that the US Government could consider changing they're mind. SOPA wants to ruin the internet and has already done so (Some what in a small way) by closing down Mega Upload. The creator and 4 other workers were arrested today in New Zealand after being shut down. Anomynous (the group that also "hacked" PSN) has now shut down the United States Goverment's website.

What will happen next? Anything I forgot?

Discuss.
 
They shut down a bunch of other sites too.

"The websites for the US Department of Justice and Universal Music Group were among the first to go, with the sites for US Copyright Office, Warner Music, BMI, and RIAA following suit shortly after. At around 7:40 PM ET, FBI.gov finally went down."

http://rt.com/usa/news/crippled-fbi-megaupload-anonymous-239/
 
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This post made me think of this comic. :) I'm surprised that they took the MegaUpload people. I'd have to question the legality of taking down that website, but whatever... It'll be interesting to see how this develops.
 
Why were the creators of Megaupload arrested anyway? Unless they encouraged the act of putting up pirated stuff, there is no way they can take them like that. I honestly don't know that much about law, but I mean hey, innocent until proven guilty, right?

All I can say is go Anons.
 
Wow, they took down a website. What an inconvenience.
 
I'm presuming it was either New Zealand's feds or Interpol (possibly working in conjunction with US officials) who arrested the founders of MegaUpload, then, since the US government itself really doesn't have the authority and jurisdiction to do that outside of the United States and its territories (unless things have suddenly changed because of SOPA... Regretably, I'm starting to feel very misinformed by all the anti-SOPA propoganda flooding the Internet). In any case, I really don't blame Anonymous for hacking and disrupting US government websites, but it would help someone would actually clarify what the heck is going on with SOPA right now since (last I heard somewhere) the bill was supposedly shelved until better research could be done on its potentially damaging effects... >.>
 
Imakuni? said:
Why were the creators of Megaupload arrested anyway? Unless they encouraged the act of putting up pirated stuff, there is no way they can take them like that. I honestly don't know that much about law, but I mean hey, innocent until proven guilty, right?

All I can say is go Anons.
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This.
All of this.
I agree with this post.
 
Do they just arrest those who are against them or something? If megaupload didn't even encourage it then why are they being shut down? I remember hearing that CNET are big supporters of SOPA and they encouraged illegal downloads constantly. More light on what is actually happenning before people get wound up would be great.
 
DeviantART is probably next, plus the million some-odd people who produce fanart on there.
Welp, better take down my WHOLE. FREAKING. GALLERY.
We're all screwed.
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Someone on DeviantART sent this to me.
You think we made it?
 
Javier8100 said:
This has been going on for a bit but sites like Craigslist and Wikipedia have already closed theyre site for a day (on the 18th) so that the US Government could consider changing they're mind. SOPA wants to ruin the internet and has already done so (Some what in a small way) by closing down Mega Upload. The creator and 4 other workers were arrested today in New Zealand after being shut down. Anomynous (the group that also "hacked" PSN) has now shut down the United States Goverment's website.

What will happen next? Anything I forgot?

Discuss.
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To clarify something small, Anonymous claims they didn't shut down PSN. They're the first to take credit for their work. Also, look at this thread for a bit more about piracy in general.

Imakuni? said:
Why were the creators of Megaupload arrested anyway? Unless they encouraged the act of putting up pirated stuff, there is no way they can take them like that. I honestly don't know that much about law, but I mean hey, innocent until proven guilty, right?

All I can say is go Anons.
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The situation is a tad bit murky. The government claims that while they prohibit pirated stuff on their website in their terms, they often didn't do anything about it and paid those who did upload pirated stuff via their rewards program. For a view shunning Mega Upload (it's anti-SOPA, but it's shunning Mega Upload), see this: http://www.zeldainformer.com/2012/01/us-justice-department-shuts-down-megaupload-why-this-should-make-you-angryat-megaupload.html

AnimeUSA said:
EDIT:
Someone on DeviantART sent this to me.
You think we made it?
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If you mean escaped entirely from SOPA, then no. Since they've shelved it and have not entirely stopped it, they might revise it and come back next year, albeit with less ambiguous wording. If it is brought up then, most of the major issues should be worked out, and opposition probably won't be as strong. If it's still too ambiguous and gets everyone riled up again, who knows. Vetoes can be overridden with enough popularity.
 
Imakuni? said:
Unless they encouraged the act of putting up pirated stuff, there is no way they can take them like that.
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they did. that is what no one seems to realize or bother learning.

also, go anon for making us all look bad. I used to agree with a lot of anon movements, but this was just plain moronic.
 
Non Sequitur said:
This.

EDIT: SOPA and PIPA are just another way that socialist congress is trying to make our free country another North Korea. Free economy and market is not something that they agree with, and this is probably something that they did just to try to get closer to their goal.
They know what they're doing. They can't seriously be THAT stupid.
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Before you interpret what I'm about to say wrongly, I'd like to mention that I am not a socialist and probably won't ever be. Now on to my comment.

You're spewing obvious propaganda, mostly evidenced by the fact that this doesn't hurt a free economy/market.
If any of the people who are trying to pass this have some corrupt agenda, it's people being bought off by the entertainment industry. With all the money the entertainment industry makes, it's not surprising that they could bribe some politicians to pass some laws that would take action against the people who pirate their copyrighted movies/TV/games/etc, and effectively makes their already fat wallets even fatter.

In no way does SOPA assist the evil socialists that you've probably only heard about through FOX News, and don't even know what they stand for gather all the Chaos Emeralds, kill Goku, and build the Death Star Mark III. At best, it's people who are misguidedly trying to help the entertainment industry against pirating by passing a poorly-worded bill that can potentially be used to restrict some freedoms. At worst, it's just another case of politicians being corrupted even further.
 
Non Sequitur said:
SOPA and PIPA are just another way that socialist congress is trying to make our free country another North Korea. Free economy and market is not something that they agree with, and this is probably something that they did just to try to get closer to their goal.
They know what they're doing. They can't seriously be THAT stupid.
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THIS, THIS, and a million more this.

Cinesra said:
You're spewing obvious propaganda, mostly evidenced by the fact that this doesn't hurt a free economy/market.
If any of the people who are trying to pass this have some corrupt agenda, it's people being bought off by the entertainment industry. With all the money the entertainment industry makes, it's not surprising that they could bribe some politicians to pass some laws that would take action against the people who pirate their copyrighted movies/TV/games/etc, and effectively makes their already fat wallets even fatter.

In no way does SOPA assist the evil socialists that you've probably only heard about through FOX News, and don't even know what they stand for gather all the Chaos Emeralds, kill Goku, and build the Death Star Mark III. At best, it's people who are misguidedly trying to help the entertainment industry against pirating by passing a poorly-worded bill that can potentially be used to restrict some freedoms. At worst, it's just another case of politicians being corrupted even further.
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Please don't tell me you think the government cares about us? And if the entertainment industry wanted this, why is practically everyone, including the entertainment industry, against it? And you don't think the higher-ups in government don't want to take away our freedoms?

Go do a little research.
 
Respect +1 as well. (wait, crap is uncensored?)

Now i'm not much of a politics person, heck, I can't stand the debate. But this means a lot to me, and I don't want to see America turn into another China. I want the freedom to do and see whatever the heck I want on the Web, because that's what it was created for, and there's no sence in tampering with this beautiful thing we call The Internet.
The thing that gets me most is the fact that fanart will be outlawed.
I'm not going into it, but that right there is a guranteed hands-down RAGEQUIT for me.
 
Most of the entertainment industry wanted this, it was only the videogame industry that was against it. RIAA, MPAA - both for it.

SOPA and PIPA were also created to help capitalism and the free market. Socialism has nothing to do with anything about this. Whoever said that it does should never be allowed to breed. Socialism has to do with the government providing a large safety net for people who need it. It has nothing to do with anything about this bill. It's not even a political system! It's an economic theory!

Please don't tell me you think the government cares about us? And if the entertainment industry wanted this, why is practically everyone, including the entertainment industry, against it? And you don't think the higher-ups in government don't want to take away our freedoms?

Go do a little research.
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why don't you do a little research? It's obvious you didn't, otherwise you'd know what I said earlier about the RIAA and the MPAA - the two big names in the entertainment industry, by the way - are both for SOPA and PIPA. The "liberal socialist agenda" is not taking away your freedom to be a moron on the Internet. The right was who sponsored this bill. It was created to support capitalist organizations. I'm not saying that the right is always wrong - au contraire, as Republicans and Democrats alike both sponsored and opposed the bills. They often have some good ideas, and SOPA and PIPA had semi-good intentions. But this is not a bill intended by the left or by socialists.

SOPA and PIPA are just another way that socialist congress is trying to make our free country another North Korea. Free economy and market is not something that they agree with, and this is probably something that they did just to try to get closer to their goal.
They know what they're doing. They can't seriously be THAT stupid.
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I literally lost IQ points reading this post. SOPA. PIPA. MADE TO SUPPORT CAPITALISM. SOCIALISM. NOTHING TO DO WITH FREEDOM. IT IS AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM. BILLS. MOSTLY SPONSORED BY RIGHT, BUT NOT ENTIRELY. OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. AGAINST BILLS. YES. THE POLITICIANS ARE THAT STUPID. PLEASE LOOK UP HANLON'S RAZOR. NEVER POST AGAIN.
 
Yes, I'm the one who doesn't konw what he's talking about. I'm going to call you up on your offer in your signature.

With a simple Google search, you could find a list of companies that support SOPA. Here it is for you.As you seem prone to conspiracy theories, I'm sure you can appreciate this website. You can also look up these companies to see if they actually do support SOPA.

Asking why practically everyone is against it shows that you're not very informed. Naturally, the people who would benefit from SOPA are for it and the ones who wouldn't are against it. It's common sense. Companies such as ESA and CBS lose money from their games and TV shows being pirated, so naturally, they want SOPA to be passed. I'm not saying that all of the entertainment industry has the same opinion on SOPA, however. Companies such as The Pirate Bay, who make a living off of piracy are obviously against it. Other companies that are against it can be easily explained.

Let's use GoDaddy for example. They originally were pro-SOPA. Then, when they saw how many internet users were against it, they changed their stance. They want to keep their business, as they make money from the internet users. If the potential customers saw that they were anti-SOPA instead of pro-SOPA, they'd naturally want to do business with them. This doesn't mean that they really are against it. It means that they want to make money, just like everybody else.

Now then, I never said that the government cares about us or that they don't want to take away our freedoms. If you had actually paid attention to my post, you'd see where I said that this was a case of corruption and freedoms being taken away. The entire post was about why and what kind of corruption and why/how these freedoms are being taken away. I'm not some idiot who thinks that the government is perfect, nor am I some idiot who assumes everybody is out to get me and that it's all some conspiracy by some people with political views that I don't understand.

TL;DR version: actually read my post and do your own research before you accuse people of not knowing what they are talking about.
 
We dont NEED internet censorship.
I bet a bit of it is even overprotected parents who think everything on the internet is pr0n.
 
AnimeUSA, no one is saying we need it. We are all anti-SOPA here. We are discussing completely different things.
 
Lol I get that, but i posted that before I read the other posts. I was just making a seprate point.
I didn't think you weren't anti-SOPA...
I'll just leave now...I'm making myself look really stupid.
 
I wasn't putting words in your mouth, I was interpreting what you said literally. Unless you make it obvious that you didn't mean it that way, I'm going to assume you were serious, because there really are people that dumb. I'm glad you're not one of them.

Most Congresspeople are really out-of-touch with modern Internet interactions, which was one of the big problems with SOPA - some Congresspeople literally did not know the consequences of what they were doing. Hanlon's Razor - never attribute to malice which can be equally attributed to stupidity.
 
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