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RZPDisciple

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I plan on using something like this for states. Any input would help. I've put a lot of thought into this but someone may see something I missed.


pokemon 14:
4-4 donphan (mewtwo/eels)
2 reshiram (durant/cobalion)
2 kyurem (reshi/emboar)
2 zekrom (tornadus)


I/S/S 34:
4 collecter
4 pont
3 juniper

4 catcher
4 junk arm
4 plus power
3 lost remover(special energy is getting really popular)
3 rocky helmet
2 switch
3 communication


energy 12:
2 fighting{F}
2 DCE{C}{C}
4 prism
4 rainbow
 
You need Mewtwo. It's the best mewtwo counter out there. If you can't afford it, Mew Prime, Xatu UL, and Weezing CoL or HGSS work.
 
Donphan prime is already a counter to mewtwo. it never has more than 1 energy and with its power it doesnt count for mewtwo. meaning their mewtwo needs 6 energy to OHKO. and with no energy acceleration my mewtwo will be working off DCE alone. that being said, I will test with it and see how it works. if it does well I'll edit the list.
 
RZPDisciple said:
Donphan prime is already a counter to mewtwo. it never has more than 1 energy and with its power it doesnt count for mewtwo. meaning their mewtwo needs 6 energy to OHKO. and with no energy acceleration my mewtwo will be working off DCE alone. that being said, I will test with it and see how it works. if it does well I'll edit the list.
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I wouldn't say that. Mewtwo can 2hko it then, and donphan (assuming eviolite), 4hko's it.
 
How do you feel about Zoroark as a Chandelure counter? If it used Eerie Glow you would be doing 100 + Burn/Confusion which is almost enough to knock it out It could serve multiple functions in this deck. It's weakness can be looked over because there isn't much fighting going around the format besides Donphan and Terrakion but you could be OHKO'd if they plus powered on a retaliatle anyway though which is it's only function. It resists psychic so that is also a plus. It runs off of DCE primarily but could go off rainbow/prism if needed (rainbow would allow search but as a very worst case scenario).
 
pokemonjoe said:
You need Mewtwo. It's the best mewtwo counter out there. If you can't afford it, Mew Prime, Xatu UL, and Weezing CoL or HGSS work.
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Cobalion and Scizor Prime are the best Mewtwo counters.
 
Emopanda133 said:
Cobalion and Scizor Prime are the best Mewtwo counters.
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They are good walls for it, but the best way to kill a Mewtwo is with another Mewtwo.
 
I dont really feel like I need to worry about chandelure. no one around me plays it. I also agree that mewtwo is the best mewtwo counter 99% of the time. Eviolite only works on basics so Id be using rocky helmet on donphan. assuming I hit first and mewtwo doesnt have 6 energy on it, I do 60, he hits me and takes 20 more. I hit again for 60 with a plus power so hes at 150. he can attack for ko, but rocky helmet kills him too. he takes 1 prize, I get 2. unless ofcourse he has eviolite. then we're both taking 2 prizes.
 
RZPDisciple said:
I don't really feel like I need to worry about chandelure. no one around me plays it. I also agree that mewtwo is the best mewtwo counter 99% of the time. Eviolite only works on basics so Id be using rocky helmet on donphan. assuming I hit first and mewtwo doesnt have 6 energy on it, I do 60, he hits me and takes 20 more. I hit again for 60 with a plus power so hes at 150. he can attack for ko, but rocky helmet kills him too. he takes 1 prize, I get 2. unless ofcourse he has eviolite. then we're both taking 2 prizes.
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Yes, but the only difference is that Mewtwo is a basic, so it can swarm.
 
RZPDisciple said:
2 firetini (durant/cobalion)
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This will not work to counter Durant decks. You don't run any normal energy, meaning you will be the victim of constant Lost Removers. Even if you did run 2~+ Fire Energy, smart Durant decks incorporate Ditto, giving you even more headaches!
 
Hmm understandable not needing to counter something that isn't played around you although I still find it a good play as it can randomly help you with match ups you aren't expecting.

Edit: Why not run Reshiram with Donphan it's obvious synergy
 
I've thought about reshiram but with victini I felt I didnt need him. with ditto being out there though I may swap them out.
 
RZPDisciple said:
2 firetini (durant/cobalion)
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Ditto and Lost Remover are not the only problems. Having a bench full of catcher bait is also a big problem.
 
A few thoughts:

you only need 1 kyurem
heavy ball/comm split seems better
pokegears would be nice
-prisms +fighting -- 2 doesn't seem like enough, you want Donphan to tank so rainbow doesn't help with that, and the dragons only really need to outrage
another switch seems necessary
 
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