Back from the dead?

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G&G! Do you think its back from the dead? The only reason it dropped was due to loosing DRE, but Double Colorless Energy is a fine replacement. Gengar can be a beast against it, but we also have all these Trainers we never had to support its other matches. Do you think its back?

Deck_Master
 
Hmm... Wow, yeah, I would say it could definitely make a comeback, although it might not be the beast that it once was. DCE still really isn't as good as DRE, but it could become Tier 1.5.

Now I wanna play it again. : P
 
it could make a comback with gardy platinum/DCE. you could use something to get what you need (chatot) while charging up your bench. when once it dies you can just go ahead and psylock then and then just retreat for another gardy every time your about to die. or just start with rakts, future sight, rare candy, DCE, psylock for GG.
 
Maybe Ness will bring it back :cool:

For Gengar, maybe TM-Devoluter, it could work. Or Psychic Restore if you can take care of retreating.

Deck_Master
 
The thing is that before GG could attach any energy - Cyclone, Call, etc. then it could attach DRE. This needs a Psychic Energy. It also had Scramble then. However, it gets a lot more - Platinum Gardevoir, Cyrus's Initiative, Platinum Ralts, Nidoqueen, etc. It could make a comeback, I just think the introduction of Uxie and other deck choices makes it less of a viable option.
 
You guys are probable right. I know it will never be overplayed like LBS and G&G used to be but maybe it won't be so bad. Gallade can kill anything it needs to which is great against focus band user's, and Gardevoir would be the main 'character' in here because Psychic Lock completely ruins the whole entire metagame.

Deck_Master
 
Focus Band users? Surely you mean Expert Belt, right?
Gardevoir would probably struggle against a few decks coming up soon though:
- Arceus (If its as solid as I expect it to be) doesn't need powers and can rather easily OHKO Gardevoir
- Jumpluff will feed off your big bench and deal great amounts of damage while not really requiring many powers. It'll hate Dusknoir though.
- Donphan laughs at your 40 damage.
- Ampharos with the Great Amphy and PT Ampharos can be quite a nuisance.
- Gengar, as noted, is a ridiculously annoying matchup.
- Expert Belt Shuppet won't be nice to you either.
 
elekid957 said:
it could make a comback with gardy platinum/DCE. you could use something to get what you need (chatot) while charging up your bench. when once it dies you can just go ahead and psylock then and then just retreat for another gardy every time your about to die. or just start with rakts, future sight, rare candy, DCE, psylock for GG.
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cleffa HG/SS > chatot MD
 
I love GG. My all time favorite Archtype. I've beat Gengar more times then i've lost to it with it(just gotta know how to tech for it :D). Next set shouldn't be that big a deal to it, but HG/SS will probably be where it ends D:
 
sillykyle! said:
cleffa HG/SS > chatot MD
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Not necasarily. Chatot can take a hit, and retreat. Cleffa won't have the chance to use eeeeek before losing a prize most of the time.
 
elekid957 said:
^which powers up you upper energy. but chatot is definitely better for that
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But what is the point of upper with DCE out. Even if upper provided 3 energy, I'd still rather not go one prize down.
 
See my sig that might double this season just like the energy ahaha. Ahh it is a zombie shoot it like in some games no I died with gengar to(hopefully gengar will die)
 
Gengar will die? Haha thats a good one.


GENGAR WILL NEVER DIE. Alph Lithograph lets you look at your opponents hand. Thats a Gengar PLUS.
 
Gengar will die, its a terrible card with low damage output and is too luck based to win a good sized meaning top 4 tournament anymore.
 
Lou Cypher said:
Focus Band users? Surely you mean Expert Belt, right?
Gardevoir would probably struggle against a few decks coming up soon though:
- Arceus (If its as solid as I expect it to be) doesn't need powers and can rather easily OHKO Gardevoir
- Jumpluff will feed off your big bench and deal great amounts of damage while not really requiring many powers. It'll hate Dusknoir though.
- Donphan laughs at your 40 damage.
- Ampharos with the Great Amphy and PT Ampharos can be quite a nuisance.
- Gengar, as noted, is a ridiculously annoying matchup.
- Expert Belt Shuppet won't be nice to you either.
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Lol I say Focus Band because they always change it to something when they produce the sets in America. Could be Focus Sash? :cool:

And your right about all those matches! (Salamence Lv.X' 160HP and resistence is another one. Of course, those may or may not be archetypes in the future. There really great decks but it doesn't mean they will be played. 1 of those decks could rule the format, or a deck could be un-popular due to expenses. Donphan and Arcues?) Even though I'm not defending G&G here, I hope it comes back...so I can kill it. It sent me home from my trip to Nationals last year with a horrible record.

For those of you who like it, I'm sure you will have fun with it one more last time.

Deck_Master
 
gengar the baller said:
Gengar will die, its a terrible card with low damage output and is too luck based to win a good sized meaning top 4 tournament anymore.
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Well I wish you were right. And you are just saying that because you went 1-3 in a BR and then said I would never use gengar and used it AGAIN and went 2-2. LOL :p I do hope gengar will die but gardalade has alot to counter if it wants to win.
 
Gengar isn't really that bad of a matchup for G&G if you have the right techs. Unown G blocks shadow room. Keep a thin hand of T/S/S, and they won't get much poltergeist. Azelf Lv. X blocks the weakness. And Psychic lock prevents fainting spell.

As for Donophan and Arceus, well you just need to use G # 2 to pychic cut for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

EDIT: Although at the rate we're going we might not have Gengar and DCE at the same time.
 
amisheskimoninja said:
Gengar isn't really that bad of a matchup for G&G if you have the right techs. Unown G blocks shadow room. Keep a thin hand of T/S/S, and they won't get much poltergeist. Azelf Lv. X blocks the weakness. And Psychic lock prevents fainting spell.

As for Donophan and Arceus, well you just need to use G # 2 to pychic cut for MASSIVE DAMAGE!

EDIT: Although at the rate we're going we might not have Gengar and DCE at the same time.
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Gengar by-passes Psychic Lock. Think Psychic Restore, TM Devoluter, or Poison.

I don't think those decks will be around due to money and expenses. Donphan could be as rare as a level. X and may not be made into a tin. The fact that its almost tier 1 could up the price.

Deck_Master
 
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