(big bomb) forretress states deck

[masqueraingoddess]

4 pichu Hs
3 jirachi Rr
4-4 forretress (3 Ud 1 la)
2-2 menectric Pl
1 azelf
pokemon: 20

t/s/s
3 professor oak's new theory
3 twins
3 bebe's search
2 interview's questions
1 flower shop lady
4 poke healer +
2 life herb
2 super scoop up
2 expert belt
1 luxury ball
1 vs seeker
t/s/s: 24

2 {C} {C}
4 special metal
5 {M}
5 {G}

have pichu as starter and if it is possible a pinco on the bench and use playgound (i know this move also sets up my oppenent too) seach for all pincos in the deck and an electrike (if there are only 3 pinco seach for jirachi and a electrike) have your oppenent destory pichu 2nd then twins to help setup for things like expert belt special metal energy etc use detour to search for more cards. or evolve to the manectric and at least one forretess hopefully you already had a energy from turn one add a dc and do a whopping 90-140 on the 2nd turn!! and your pincos and forretress dont take any damage with the manectric out.

 

[masqueraingoddess]

should i add any techs or replace pichu?

 

[XFlameMasterX]

The problem is, if you flip tails on Sweet Sleeping Face, then your opponent can't kill Pichu. The other thing is that sending up Jirachi after Pichu dies is pretty much giving your opponent 2 free prize cards. Most decks are set up enough to go from there after their first starter is killed off. If you need 2 starters to set up, odds are you won't be set up by T2. Also, scans for your Forretress would help immensely, so I don't have to go look it up.

The correct way to run this deck would be to just max out your Pokemon Collectors. This way, you have the best chance of setting up without letting your opponents set up as well. You also shouldn't be running any {G} energy, since your main attack costs {M}{C}{C}. Your energy line should be like this:
4sp{M}
4{C}{C}
4basic{M}
Here's what I'd do:
-4 Pichu
-3 Jirachi
-5{G}
-1 Basic {M}
-1 Twins(3 is overkill..you don't WANT to be losing remember)
-2 Life Herb
-2 SSU
-1 Vs. Seeker(why is this here?)
-1 PONT
(-20)
+4 Sableye(Impersonate your Collectors)
+2 {C}{C}(better chance of drawing into it)
+3 Energy Exchanger
+3 Broken Time-Space(you want to set up relatively quickly)
+2 Seeker(Better than SSU, although its personal choice if you don't want to waste your supporter slot)
+2 Warp Point
+2 Uxie(Standard drawpower all decks need until it's rotated)
+2 Judge(adds some nice dissruption)

Final List
Pokemon: 19
4-4 Forretress(All UD)(Iron Shell is sorta bad, and Manectric doesn't prevent "placing" damage counters)
2-2 Manectric PL
4 Sableye SF
2 Uxie LA
1 Azelf LA

T/S/S: 29
2 PONT
2 Judge
2 Twins
3 Bebe's Search
2 IQ
1 FSL
2 Seeker
3 Energy Exchanger
2 Warp Point
2 E-Belt
1 Luxury Ball
4 PokeHealer+
3 BTS

NRG: 12
4{C}{C}
4{M}
4SP{M}
As a final note, make sure you spread out your Special {M} energy, this way, if you don't have Manectric set up, you'll take less overall from Everyone Explode Now's recoil. Hope I've helped!

 

[masqueraingoddess]

running 3 bts would be bad it would help setup my oppenents pokemon faster than me that would kill my forretress with a reamaning hp 70 or 60
i dont understand why you added seeker in there. with pichu i have everything setup in one turn then the next turn 90-140 damage 160 tops with la forretress and when i bench uxie what am i to do when i need four pinco and forretress and i have two. to kill my oppenents garaydos.

 

[XFlameMasterX]

Why do you automatically assume your opponent will set up slower than you? By your logic, Pichu helps you setup T2. Well the same is true of your opponent. BTS is the only way you'll be able to consistently set up Forretress' since the the damage you do is dependent on the amount you have in play.

As for your "Uxie" statement, you can only have 4 Forretress and 4 Pineco in your deck at the same time. If you have 4 Forretress in play, then you obviously don't have any Pineco in play as well because they are now Forretress. 30x4=120. 140 with belt. You'll still have a bench spot open for Uxie, provided Manectric's not out yet. I don't know, IMO, Uxie is important enough to make bench space for, but that's just me.

I still have no idea what La Forretress does for you. Maybe if you explain in more detail what La Forretress does to help your deck, I could help you more. Also, if you insist on keeping Pichu, at least get rid of Jirachi. Having more than one starter in your deck will just make it more inconsistant, not more consistant.

 

[masqueraingoddess]

forretress states the amount of forretress and pineco you have play

 

[XFlameMasterX]

Once Pineco becomes Forretress, though, it only counts as a Forretress. So the maximum you could do is with 4 Forretresses in play....120 dmg.