Hex Maniac says hello. tbh, that supporter is highly likely going to be keeping a lot of the locks in check, notably Ninetales.
'Blue Impact' / 'Red Flash' Japan's XY8 Sets, Next Set Block Titled 'XY: BREAK!'
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I wouldn't say it's dead, MetalRay decks will still work fine as Aegislash/Dialga can be put to good use if Rayquaza is left hanging. If your running Shayquaza with just shaymin/rayquaza you will be out of luck though.
Skyla tho ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Too bad we likely aren't getting an english version
Really? More monkeys? Remember that time a few years back where literally every set from BW1 to BW4 had the monkeys? I hope we dont have that again.
Skyla's just stretching! I guess it's a little bit flirtatious, but it's not like she's dressed in a bikini or something. Just looks playful to me.
Not sure about the Judge reprint...I'm not a huge fan of hand disruption and I think Ace Trainer/Red Card is enough. However, not many decks run Red Card and Judge at least dispenses a set amount of cards to both players, so it may not be so bad.
Heavy Ball reprint is exciting though! Nice little buff for Mega Ampharos...well, and any decks running big retreat attackers. You can also search out Vileplume with it, which is, uh, "nice."
Not sure about the Judge reprint...I'm not a huge fan of hand disruption and I think Ace Trainer/Red Card is enough. However, not many decks run Red Card and Judge at least dispenses a set amount of cards to both players, so it may not be so bad.
Heavy Ball reprint is exciting though! Nice little buff for Mega Ampharos...well, and any decks running big retreat attackers. You can also search out Vileplume with it, which is, uh, "nice."
Discard, almost certainly, based on Skyfield being removed
Judge and Fisherman were cards I never thought would get reprinted. We don't need either in this format. Especially with enough hand disruption (N for Expanded and Ace Trainer). Perhaps this is hinting at a Yanmega reprint????
Raichu's attack that does 50 damage to all your oppponent's EX seems interesting.
But now on the positives. Love that Heavy Ball and Super Rod are getting reprints. Missed them in Standard.
Raichu's attack that does 50 damage to all your oppponent's EX seems interesting.
But now on the positives. Love that Heavy Ball and Super Rod are getting reprints. Missed them in Standard.
I can only imagine the conversations that go on at The Pokemon Laboratory:
Developer A: [Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we introduced some new card interaction in Set X?]
Developer B: [That sounds awesome! Let's start working on that now!]
Corporate: [Base an entire deck archetype around it for Set X! Otherwise people won't get it!]
Developer A: [Shouldn't we pull in some cards from old sets? Or at least seed the idea for a set or two?]
Corporate: *smack* [Release it all in Set X! Make it the best deck in the format too! Gotta sell cardboard!]
*9 months later, after Set X has released internationally*
Corporate: [That new mechanic from Set X is too good! Have you seen what those Americans are doing with the cards?! Nerf it now!]
Developer A: [But, you said...]
Corporate: *smack* [Why did you make it so strong in the first place?! Fix it!]
Developer B: [But we need time to properly develop and playtest a counter...]
Corporate: *smack* [What part of "nerf" didn't you understand?!]
And the cycle continues.
Join us next time on The Pokemon Laboratory Theater.
Developer A: [Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we introduced some new card interaction in Set X?]
Developer B: [That sounds awesome! Let's start working on that now!]
Corporate: [Base an entire deck archetype around it for Set X! Otherwise people won't get it!]
Developer A: [Shouldn't we pull in some cards from old sets? Or at least seed the idea for a set or two?]
Corporate: *smack* [Release it all in Set X! Make it the best deck in the format too! Gotta sell cardboard!]
*9 months later, after Set X has released internationally*
Corporate: [That new mechanic from Set X is too good! Have you seen what those Americans are doing with the cards?! Nerf it now!]
Developer A: [But, you said...]
Corporate: *smack* [Why did you make it so strong in the first place?! Fix it!]
Developer B: [But we need time to properly develop and playtest a counter...]
Corporate: *smack* [What part of "nerf" didn't you understand?!]
And the cycle continues.
Join us next time on The Pokemon Laboratory Theater.
Point is, there is a difference between Promo and secret rare.
well crap i guess that they need to keep hoopa/rayquaza deck in check but thats still nasty only 3 bench pokemon time to keep my 2-2 ninetails line and some paint rollers but ya paralled city sucks. on the interesting side we kind of get recycle effect with reserve ticket but i think it would rather run swampert with the diving search ability. On the bright side SKYLA REPRINT.
We have another N/ a replacement for N. I am so excited for the XY-on sets. I have been playing this game since the beginning and I am glad to see some old friends coming back and TPCi adding diversity to the cardpool.
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My thought was that Pokemon Laboratory is like a drunken friend who lends you money at the start the night to have a good time and then kicks the crap out of you at closing time when you can't pay him back right away.
I bet the Skyla card will be edited in the International release or not released outside of Japan.
The good thing about Judge is that at any time during play, both early and late game, you can immediately allow an attack or other card that requires both players have the same hand size to work.
Might make some old cards worth another look. Heck, Contrary Malamar just got a whole lot more interesting with fairly easy to achieve guaranteed confusion and the ability to cause it to always flip tails.
What's worth noting is that one of the decks had a regular non-FA Skyla card in their featured cards section.
Looks like we might be getting a regular and full art re-release
Well, sometimes you can use a stadium not only as a counter, but also to get rid of potential liabilities. Although this new Parallel stadium seems to give both players some kind of disadvantage, both sides can be useful depending on the state of the game: you can simply limit the bench size of your opponent and prevent him/her from using Shaymins, or from applying any fast deck strategies like Raichu, MRay or the new Break Zoroark, or you could simplify your side of the field getting rid of heavily damaged mon's on your bench, or low HP ones you played for support.
My main interest on this new stadium is that you can play it, like any other stadium, only if there is no other stadiums in play, or if there is a different one in there, but never if a stadium with the same name is active -- I mean, it would be a huge problem if the stadium is there locking you on the wrong condition, because your opponent plays the same stadium, for example. So, to get rid of the selected condition, you would have to:
1. Play some other stadiums on your deck, but then you would have to wait another turn to be able to play Parallel City again (you can only play one stadium per turn). Oh, and you would have to pray your opponent wouldn't play his Parallel City during his next turn, locking you from playing it again....
2. Play cards that discard stadiums, like paint roller. Which, by the way, seems to have some kind of synergy here against this stadium (even if you are locked out by Giratina EX or Ninetales, you still could get rid of the stadium and have some chance to play at least for a turn).
3. Use mon's that have Wreck or some other attack that discards stadiums. On the other hand, your opponent would have the advantage of not being locked by the stadium during his/her next turn.
4. Play that Teleport Room Gothitelle (FUF, if I'm not mistaken), but, then again, it is a stage two, and who even play that card anyways?
So, I'm curious if this new stadium would became a thing. I think its mechanic is very interesting and would bring a lot of cool strategies to the game
Also, I guess I'm going to miss backbiting seismitoad =( Locking is real, people! Now we are going to have items, stadiums, bench space, and special energies lock, all of them potentially starting turn 1 or 2, and everything could be put on the same deck =X
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Shoutout to the Pokeladies for being consistently fine
Parallel city looks terrifying. IDK, I'm playing it in any deck that doesn't need a specific stadium. It will destroy raichu and mega ray. Limit to 3 Pokemon on the bench will also destroy decks that have a lot of pokemon and rely on bench space to play them. I.e. garbodor (Though not in the format with it in) Vileplume, trev. Also donphan decks in general and Aromatisse decks will lack space for stuff, like with aromatisse, it would mean a lot of pokemon on the bench would hoard the energy, and then a lysandre+lugia means there is a lot going on. Another thing is seeing it paired with a ninetales... You just need to start crying now ;-;
Also, float stone coming back... but not the cards that needed them the most (Garb/keldeo). Also, town map returning is just good for night march too.
I also see some raichu (XY one) decks teching in the raichu break and some electric energy, due to the fact that it would get more HP, and that 170 damage move could be a nice finisher, if the bench is lacking.
Also, float stone coming back... but not the cards that needed them the most (Garb/keldeo). Also, town map returning is just good for night march too.
I also see some raichu (XY one) decks teching in the raichu break and some electric energy, due to the fact that it would get more HP, and that 170 damage move could be a nice finisher, if the bench is lacking.
Some cool new cards and reprints.
Parallel City: Interesting concept. Now maybe Rayquaza decks will start using Ninetails PRC to lock Sky Field in play.
Float Stone reprint: Very nice, I like the card.
Skyla reprint: Players don't use it as much but maybe it will see more play in the future.
Super rod reprint: I love that Pokemon is bringing back/creating new recovery cards now that Trump Card is banned.
Judge reprint: Oh the fun memories with this card. Don't say it too loud when playing it or a judge might walk over.
Town Map reprint: Not much to say, I like the card.
Fisherman reprint: I didn't play this card much when it was in format but I can see it being used this format. Energy Recycler gets them into your and is prone to Item lock, whereas Fisherman is a Supporter and gets the energy into your hand.
Looks like a good set so far!
Parallel City: Interesting concept. Now maybe Rayquaza decks will start using Ninetails PRC to lock Sky Field in play.
Float Stone reprint: Very nice, I like the card.
Skyla reprint: Players don't use it as much but maybe it will see more play in the future.
Super rod reprint: I love that Pokemon is bringing back/creating new recovery cards now that Trump Card is banned.
Judge reprint: Oh the fun memories with this card. Don't say it too loud when playing it or a judge might walk over.
Town Map reprint: Not much to say, I like the card.
Fisherman reprint: I didn't play this card much when it was in format but I can see it being used this format. Energy Recycler gets them into your and is prone to Item lock, whereas Fisherman is a Supporter and gets the energy into your hand.
Looks like a good set so far!
Bronzong also revealed!
Some cool new cards and reprints.
Parallel City: Interesting concept. Now maybe Rayquaza decks will start using Ninetails PRC to lock Sky Field in play.
Float Stone reprint: Very nice, I like the card.
Skyla reprint: Players don't use it as much but maybe it will see more play in the future.
Super rod reprint: I love that Pokemon is bringing back/creating new recovery cards now that Trump Card is banned.
Judge reprint: Oh the fun memories with this card. Don't say it too loud when playing it or a judge might walk over.
Town Map reprint: Not much to say, I like the card.
Fisherman reprint: I didn't play this card much when it was in format but I can see it being used this format. Energy Recycler gets them into your and is prone to Item lock, whereas Fisherman is a Supporter and gets the energy into your hand.
Looks like a good set so far!
Speaking of Parallel City and Ninetales, what if the Parallel City deck has Hex Maniac to lock Ninetales PRC's ability so they can cancel out Skyfield and force the opponent to discard 5 bench pokemon out of 8 despite Ninetales being in play? If the lock is based on ability, Hex Maniac can break that lock... Therefore, when XY8 is released, I expect Metal Ray decks to fall down by a tier or maybe two. After all, Hex Maniac = Inability to use Metal Links or any other abilities, including stadium-locking 'Tales = Autoloss to Vileplume/Giratina-EX, MalaTile(or M Sceptile-EX/Malamar-EX), among other decks that either Item/Stadium lock and/or use turn attachments/Ariados AOR before Hex Maniac is used in order to inflict significant special conditions to the MRay user AND weaken the foe's chief attack while piling on energy while doing damage at the same time. In the case of MalaTile, the only solution to that is to hope your sleep flip results in MRay waking up immediately, and then, regardless of flip, Paint Roller or Skyfield to cancel out the Parallel City effect, Super Rod Shaymin-EX back into deck, Winona/Ultra Ball Shaymin-EX back in play, then, if MRay is not in play or if he can't retreat due to MRay still sleeping as a result of the sleep flip going south(or resulting in tails), attach a Float Stone to Shaymin-EX before using a Switch if MRay is either not in play, or is still asleep(in which case, he can't retreat anyway, so the only recourse would be to use Switch to get him back to the bench in his sleep, and cure the sleep as a result), then shaymin-EX can retreat to get MRay back in active, and ready to Emerald Break after a lot of resetting after the prior status-infliction followed by the Hex Maniac and Parallel City putdown that threatened to cripple MRay had the plan held...
Then again, with the release of information regarding a crippling stadium and Hex Maniac to make it more crippling to Ninetales PRC's role, if Items were locked too, maybe Expanded won't be kind to MRay any longer, with Lasers, the above cards minus Hex Maniac, if Plume/Giratina had Lasers in Expanded, if M Rayquaza-EX is put to sleep and doesn't wake up ASAP, and the Laser plus Paint Roller was used prior to Vileplume entering play so that the Laser and Paint Roller can be used, 'Tales won't matter w/ stadium lock: It autolossed to 'Plume and inability to Switch out, unless AZ or Dragonite-EX w/ Bust In is in the MRay deck, but since Bust In 'Nite is rarely seen in MRay decks...