Charizard from Arceus (#1) [10/20]

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Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
5. How's the artwork?

Posts MUST be several sentences long with proper grammar and spelling or they will be deleted - this forum is to discuss specific cards so other people can learn about their potential in the current metagame.
 
First!! Whoo! Charizard is the best pokemon nuff said.
Fire wing is a pretty good attack for one energy plus if you have your bench full of fire types you max his attack to 90! Expert belt to make it 110!
Charizard with ninetales tech make this a descent deck but the deck is little slow in this format.

Artwork is amazing!!!
 
1.How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
My opinion is that this card isn't too great, but if you're a hardcore Charizard lover, it can be used. A good deck with this can probably hold it's own against most opponents.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
None that I know of.
3.What combos can you use it with? How so?
Any deck that allows you to get many fire types on the bench and supply him with energy.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
I give it 3.5 for having potential but not really being a monster.
5. How's the artwork?
For sure one of the best art works for Charizard I've seen. It's neck seems a bit too fat, though.

I was SO close to being first.... would have been if I had not taken the time to bold the questions.
 
Guiding questions:
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
It's really not that great, but I've seen a couple decks at my leagues, didn't do too great...
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
I couldn't remember, but as I said before it doesn't stand on its own at all.
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
Maybe an expert belt, or a ninetails, but I really wouldn't recommend it to anyone...
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
2.5/5 Only because its a Charizard card, and because it has some sweet background!
5. How's the artwork?
In my opinion it's great, I myself have a few and personally they are one of my favorite Charizard cards!
 
As an ex-Charizard user, I felt compelled:


1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
It has amazing damage output and HP for very low energy. Its not really that hard to get him out, but getting all of his supporting cast out at the same time is the tricky part.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
I wouldn't call it meta... but Charizard is his own deck?

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
Typhlosion Prime and Ninetales (Roast Reveal) are the obvious ones.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
I give it a 4/5. Its a great deck, but is just out sped by SPs (what isn't :/) and now that Gyarados is making a comeback I called it quits with trying to make it work to perfection.

5. How's the artwork?
Its alright, not my favorite. I feel like Charizard cards hold a pretty high bar though.
 
HELL YEAH CHARIZARD! I have a deck with this card since it first came out!
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
On it its on, it stands perfectly fine. High Hp, with good attack power. You have fire bench pokemon on the field that gives him extra attack power, if you have 5 he does 80 for one without any draw backs.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
No Metadecks use him, its more of a rogue card.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
Typholosion Prime + Ninetails that allow you to draw 3. You can attack with his third attack while building up another Charizard on the bench with Typholosion Prime. Attach an expert belt, and the max damage you can deal is 140 Damage (5 fire bench).

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
5/5. I love Charizard, its an power house card. I've been able to take out Gyrados Decks with Charizard.

5. How's the artwork?
Artwork is awesome
 
First of all, just saying, I am incredibly biased toward Charizard, but I will try to overcome to rate it 5/5 just because its name is on the card.

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
I definitly think that it has potential as I have an entire deck based around it (Not the best deck ever). The only trouble is that it needs things on the bench to do max damage, so therefore unable to stand by itself as well as many would like. Though it can do 100 for 3 energies minus one.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
None quite yet, but (as said before) Typhlosion and Ninetails would work.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
Combos. Fill bench with Fires (Namely Ninetails and Typhlosion). If you can, you could have a Heatran LV.X (Stormfront) on your bench (yes bulky, but a Warp Point takes care of that and eliminates energy discard, saves an energy turn). This thing can do 100 damage for one energy (no idea where you got 110 or 90, Charizard3712, But last time I checked, 30+50(5 bench)+20(EBelt) total to 100) or 150 for 3 (same thing, Bunnylover, 80+50+20 I am fairly certain is 150) (If I have any math incorrect, please let me know and I will edit this entire last bit, I have no intention of insulting anybody with these points, and I am sorry if I do offend anyone). And Hearthome Contest Hall stadium (Rising Rivals) can help fill the bench where Broken Time-Space (Platinum) can help with the slow evolution.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
4.5/5. I reeeaaaallllly want to give this thing 5 but I do find a couple faults. Slightly slow and pretty common weakness. The weakness can tends to be taken care of in one blow. Those are the major cons that I found, now pros. It can do 150 damage with 160 HP. That is more health and damage than Charizard LV.X, and less energy. It can tank most things, and (in my personal opinion) It is absolutley epic!

5. How's the artwork?
I love the artwork! 5/5 for flying out of the sunset/sunrise!
 
1. It most definitley has potential, and is very much worth beying played.(I PLAY IT MYSELF!)
2.I play mine with Typhlosion primes, Uxie lv.X, Ninetales, and of course Charizard.
3.I'm with PheonixFlare on this one.
4.5/5. One of the best Charizards ever!
5.5/5. Love how it shows Charizard just flying down from the Heavens just to help the card game:)
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?

It has a hefty amount of HP yet its Fire Wing attack's power kind of bothers me.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

I'd say any {R} deck would be great for this Charizard because of his PokéBody.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?

Like I said in my last answer, he'd do great with a {R} deck because of his PokéBody.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).

I'll give it 4 stars. I don't really like how Fire Wing just deals 30 damage but you can boost it a bit with Charizard's PokéBody.

5. How's the artwork?

It's great! Not too simple but not too much.
 
This is Charizard, so I feel obligated to post.

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?

On its own, it's okay. Low energy usage, on top of decent aggro output thanks to the body, makes the card playable. Also, compared to previous renditions of Charizard, it doesn't take massive amounts of energy to attack over and over again. Great HP for a non-prime stage 2.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

None. Charizard has yet to make it meta, but maybe it will after sp is crippled.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?

The obvious one is the deck utilizing the Ninetales/Typhlosion engine. It provides drawpower on top of an extra energy attachment or 2 per turn. This can load up a 'Zard ready to Burning Tail every turn. It also adds to Charizard's attacks thanks to the Body.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).

4/5. This is easily the best Charizard since Base Set, very playable, even if it is a bit slow. It can hit fast and hard (Charizard donk, I've seen it happen). [My biggest beef with the card: 3 RETREAT COST?! IT'S FLYING, FLYING IN THE PICTURE BUT HAS A RETREAT COST OF 3?!? Sigh.]

5. How's the artwork?

It's okay. Not the best, but definitely gives it an in-your-face attitude.
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?

Pretty great card not like luxray gl lv.x though

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?

Charizard is used with ninetailes and typhlosion to make a great Charizard deck!

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?

Stated above


4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).

4.5/5 it´s a good card, it´s got a great deck, it´s hitting hard BUT it´s slow and has a {C}{C}{C} retreat cost!

5. How's the artwork?

4.5/5 Cool the neck looks a little weird though
 
Yeah I was rushing to get the first post on this and wasn't paying attention lol I just had to be first for my favorite pokemon.
 
Haha, another very biased Charizard fan here, so keep that in mind ^^;

1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
This Charizard stands very well on its own. Sure, it needs draw power aid and techs, but what doesn't? The catch is he needs a bench filled, or at least somewhat-filled (3 being a minimum, imo). I think people tend to look at the faults (needs bench, outsped by SPs, beaten by Water, ect) and just disregard it. How could they have made this card better? By giving it MORE Hp and attack power? (Alright alright, less retreat please!!!) This card has tons of potential.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
Charizard is his own deck, and that's the only way things are going to work.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
Ninetales forms a prefect draw power combo and absolutely must be used.

Now I'm going to address Typhlosion: YES, he is a great combo partner, but people need to look at the big picture: Charizard is damn fast. Yes. He needs one energy to attack and oh, he's a Stage two? So are a lot of "donk" cards. The catch is he needs at least 3 benched Pokes to match Donphan and Kingdra in attack output per energy. That is scary. Fire Wing needs to be a first priority. So I find there are two ways to play Charizard: one is to focus on speed, and Typhlosion gets you nowhere and only slows you down. The other is to focus on late-game reliability. (Ever tried to match damage output with Tyranitar? Ugh.)

Dialga G. Lv.X neuters you so Pokemon Reversal if Blaziken FB can be considered. Blaziken is also fun very early game against Water decks (Gyara is too fast but Rain Dance is a target).

Rapidash with Wild Guard could potentially be useful early game.

Pokemon Collector is an absolute must. Charizard was weakened by the loss of Roseanne's. Also a must is Pokemon Communication, to cycle out the excess Basics in your hand (Of course you'll want Bebe's in case of Trainer lock, but what doesn't?)

Super Scoop up is a cool option to get an Infinite Charizard Loop going. Have one Charizard out and attacking, throw an energy on a benched Charmander, and if your Zard gets hurt, scoop it, re evolve a new one and continue attacking the same turn (of course BTS is required). Unlikely to happen very often but insanely cool when it does. Warp Point is another option to relieve the high retreat pain.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
I rate this card 4/5. It is an extremely good card that just can't compete with some standard things. You see it in the video game all the time--a Pokemon with good stats/movepool that is UU just because of what it has to compete with.

5. How's the artwork?
Very nice work from Himeno! Its anatomy is a bit jagged and pasted-together in areas, but a lot of Charizard art has that problem. I don't think the neck looks weird--it's just the foreshortening. The background and angle are great.
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
---Not worth being played on it's own. It has Potential though, and is worth being played with Ninetales UL.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
---Charizard-Ninetales decks are starting to become populat

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
---Nintetales UL; Attack with charizard then Use Ninetales to get the discarded energy back.
---Pokemon Collector; to fill up your bench

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
---3.5/5 stars; Charizard can be really strong if you know how to use it, but this card does really bad on it's own.

5. How's the artwork?
---It's Okay, it could've been better.
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
~ Definitely worth being played on a good FIRE deck. Always nice to get one Energy 3 damage with some coupled combos.

2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
~ Charizard/Ninetails deck is my only option.

3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
~ Well from the apparent gaze of it's Poke-Body the only thing that comes to my mind is to use it on a Fire deck and
use Pokemon collector to Bench overload with Fire Pokemon.

4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
~ 3.5/5 According to the current statistics of the game entire Fire Decks are somewhat rare, so if you ain't running at least a 3/4 Fire
Deck this card may find it difficult for a place. Also since it is not a SP you'll have to waste some space to get on a Chamander or Charmeleon
to get it evolved.

5. How's the artwork?
~ Good, but definitely can be better. The background seems amazing with the slight shininess emitting from it but the Charizard
looks kinda flat.
 
1. How does the card stand on its own? Is it good, bad, or have potential? Is it worth being played?
I wouldn't play it myself, but some people use it for its great amounts of damage. 80 for 1 with no drawbacks? Epic. Defenitely has potential.
2. What popular metagame decks is it used in?
Charizard is its own deck, but its not quite Meta. Borderline Meta, really.
3. What combos can you use it with? How so?
For the obvious "swarm Fire types for massive damage!" strategy, you can use such cards as Bebe's, Collector, and Luxury Ball to quickly fill your Bench with fire types.
Typhlosion Prime can be used for retreiving the discarded Energy (Fire Wing).
Ninetales (Roast Reveal) is great for draw power and can be used with Typhlosion.
BTS can be used to get out fast Charizard/Typhlosion/Ninetales.
Blaziken FB is actually useful, good for dragging up strategy-destroying DGX, and is also good for Water decks and early game. 1 turn for all the energy it needs (Energy Gain), and at 2 turns it reaches maximum potential.
4. Give it a rating, and explain why you have given it that rating. You can also rate the card by rating the thread itself (out of 5 stars).
3/5. Decent card with lots of damage potential, but needs lots of Benched Pokemon. Without Blaziken FB, is easily outsped by SP's. Sinping and spreading decks also kill.
5. How's the artwork?
Decent. The pose is good, but its a little rough around the edges and his neck is fat. There's probably a reason for that, though.
 
Ok, charizard cards have always been popular BUT MY LOVE FOR CHARIZARD IS UNMATCHED.

IMO

Charizard just can't cut it on his own

He also hasn't made it to the meta game yet, but this cards potential could take it there with some better combos.

As far as artworks goes, compared to everything this card looks sick, but charizard cards always look sick but this was kind of a let down.

Tops are base set, star, star delta, ex, dark, shinning, g lv x, and one from an e reader set but I can't remember which one.




Right now, pokemon collectors and ninetails and rare candies. I've tried typhlosion and heateran x, its just to slow. This is also tho only deck that uxie and azelf hurt.

I'm gonna give it a 3 just cause it sits right outside the meta, it will get a 5 when I can find a way to make it as fast as sp decks.
 
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