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Darkrai/Tornadus BW-on

N is the best supporter in the format rather you like it or not. It also fits in every deck so far. Bianca has a limited opportunities to be played where N hasn't. Against Keldeo you will need the N so badly, and against any other deck since it can change things around even if you are behind in prizes. It sets your opponent back a few turns and probably also helps you out.

You should not remove the switch, it is needed when playing against rayeels since they throw prlz at your face from the start, which would make them beat you in the end.

-2 Skyla
-2 Random reciever
+4 N

You only have 4 draw supporters in a total! I won't believe that you have a great chance of getting that turn 1 60+ without more supporters, to get your hands on the different cards needed for Blow through turn 1 without more consistency.
 
this deck gets more benefit from skyla than any other supporter. ive even gotten a turn 1 donk with darkrai before because of skyla...and how does removing skyla and random receiver for Ns help me get that turn 1 blow through? thats why i decided to go with 4x random receiver,juniper and skyla. most my setup takes place turn 1...and im usually very far ahead in prizes by the time i am able to use an N(first and 2nd turn are always going to be used with skyla or juniper due to them being more useful). ive play tested this deck tooooo much and have come to this conclusion... this specific deck just doesnt need N and is better ran without it. i have been considering taking tornadus ep out and a random receiver for 2 supporters, but i really hate using N first or 2nd turn but the alternatives are lackluster...(bianca and cheren)
 
Infinity said:
Why Aerodactyl?
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faster KOs
+10 damage makes the difference alot of the time
against empoleon i can ko empoleon after a snipe with tornadus EX or sweep with darkrai if i have 2 aerodactyl up.
against ho-oh, boufallant drx can ko ho-oh after a snipe.
and alot of other situations...

plus power just isnt as good as it used to be with junk arm out of the format, and aerodactyl fits like a gloves since this deck requires i carry a stadium
 
I recommend swapping out the Aerodactyl and the Twist Mountain for three or four Aspertia City Gym and two or three Dark Claw. The new Stadium helps you late game by becoming, effectively, a single use Eviolite for Tornadus and Bouffalant. The Dark Claw will help you achieve the KO's that Aerodactyl ordinarily would have, and it won't give your opponent easy prizes to take at his or her leisure. The two Switch can become an Energy Switch and a Sableye. Switch is replaced, in essence, by Darkness Energy and Energy Switch, but the fourth Energy Switch strengthens the Trainer line and helps in many situations while Switch may often be an unusable card. A single Sableye lets you Junk Hunt to keep your deck going in the late game, seeing as you play eight Supporters, four Random Receivers and a Computer Search (a card that provides even more reason to integrate Sableye in this deck because of how extraordinary it is to have the ability to recover such a powerful card), plus it puts the Sigilyph into a KO range of Tornadus's Hurricane with Confuse Ray while staying out of Sigilyph's attack's KO range. Recycle is a good idea to use in this deck as it can recover Double Colorless Energy and what few Supporters this deck uses.

In conclusion, these are the changes I suggest:
-3 Aerodactyl
-3 Twist Mountain
-2 Switch
+4 Aspertia City Gym
+2 Dark Claw
+1 Energy Switch
+1 Sableye

I think that a second turn Night Spear is an equally ideal goal that this deck can achieve. However, it's all up to preference as to what you decide to focus on in building this deck. Eviolite would be a decent inclusion, and it may also be beneficial to remove Darkrai EX from the deck entirely in order focus on the Colorless Pokemon in this deck that benefit from the combination of Aspertia City Gym and Eviolite. Potion and even Gold Potion may make the deck very difficult to take down, and basic Dark and Sableye can provide good utility and recovery. Other than that, I believe that if your deck starts well, it will do well in many games.

~L_X_F
 
^i understand the changes you wanna make, but i just dont trust tools in the format right now and i like how aerodactyl works. also on the whole darkrai thing, i really like the energy acceleration from it and the free retreats.
Aspertia gym-i think i may add 1x in the deck for late game, might remove that tornadus EP for it since im not seeing that rogue deck quad sigilyph being played that much.
 
The purpose of Dark Claw is usually achieved in a single turn, and the extra turns it remains in play are bonus. A Raikou EX can easily take advantage of the Aerodactyl in play while there is not much you can do in return to it. Any deck meaning to take some extra prizes can also take advantage of your Aerodactyl. If you include Sableye, it can recover Dark Claw if you are afraid of losing your tool card. Regardless, Dark Claw requires much less maintenance than Aerodactyl does and is not always immediately met with a Tool Scrapper.

~L_X_F
 
JayKam said:
Pokemon:
4x Tornadus EX(max out to increase chance of starting with him)
2x Darkrai
1x Mewtwo
3x Aerodactyl(plus power just doesnt work in this format =/ )
1x bouffalant drx
1x tornadus ep (incase i wanna 1hko a sigilyph,not many are running sigilyph expect in rogue decks, so idk...)

T/S/S:
4x Dark Patch
4x Pokemon Catcher
3x Energy Switch
2x Switch
4x Ultra Ball
4x Random Receiver
2x Tool Scrapper
3x Twist Mountain
4x Professor Juniper
4x Skyla
1x Computer Search


Energy:
9x Darkness Energy
4x Double Colorless Energy


Strategy: Start out with tornadus attach a DCE(or attach a darkness then darkpatch to darkrai then energy switch) play a stadium to do turn 1 60 damage.

On rare occasions i can get a turn one power blast, using darkpatch-energy switch.

[GET FAST KO'S]


added tornadus EP so i dont get owned vs quad sigilyph
took out bianca and N for skyla and more random recievers
and added in computer search
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- 1 tornadus ep just to... blah
- 1 aeorodactyl

+ 1 darkrai ex

+ 1 dark claw
 
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