Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong Il
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RE: Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong
You're right; this might help North Korea for the better and turn their country around and hopefully become a more peaceful country as a result.
Zyflair said:
You're right; this might help North Korea for the better and turn their country around and hopefully become a more peaceful country as a result.
RE: Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong
I'm not sure if it was confirmed, but I believe his son is the ruler. What may seem better to you just could turn for the worse. Reports even before Kim Jong Il died say that his son is crazier than he was. We may be bracing for total world nuclear war...WWIII?
Also, I believe Kim Jong Il died way before today. I think North Korea just kept it hidden until they established power. You can't trust countries like those...
Rainbow Dash said:
I'm not sure if it was confirmed, but I believe his son is the ruler. What may seem better to you just could turn for the worse. Reports even before Kim Jong Il died say that his son is crazier than he was. We may be bracing for total world nuclear war...WWIII?
Also, I believe Kim Jong Il died way before today. I think North Korea just kept it hidden until they established power. You can't trust countries like those...
RE: Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong
He died two days ago, on the seventeenth, it was reported by them on the 19th in the DPRK. Thing about Kim Jong Eun, is that he is young and unpredictable, and we can't know for sure whether he'll open the DPRK, or on the other hand, try to prove his power, and command the military to do something crazy.
He died two days ago, on the seventeenth, it was reported by them on the 19th in the DPRK. Thing about Kim Jong Eun, is that he is young and unpredictable, and we can't know for sure whether he'll open the DPRK, or on the other hand, try to prove his power, and command the military to do something crazy.
RE: Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong
No were not, Kim Jong Un is crazy but he's nowhere near as crazy as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from Iran. Sure North Korea still poses as a major nuclear threat to the U.S. and other countries besides jeopardizing the world economy, but I think the bigger nuclear threats are Iran and possibly Pakistan. Of course Russia was a nuclear threat during the 80's but then we made peace with them later on that resulted in the end of the Cold War.
runeon12 said:
No were not, Kim Jong Un is crazy but he's nowhere near as crazy as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad from Iran. Sure North Korea still poses as a major nuclear threat to the U.S. and other countries besides jeopardizing the world economy, but I think the bigger nuclear threats are Iran and possibly Pakistan. Of course Russia was a nuclear threat during the 80's but then we made peace with them later on that resulted in the end of the Cold War.
RE: Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong
I was kinda hoping that his eldest son (whose name I can't remember right now
) would get the country. He tried to go to Disneyland Japan and tried to introduce his son to pop culture from the West. He could have changed the country SO MUCH!!
I was kinda hoping that his eldest son (whose name I can't remember right now
) would get the country. He tried to go to Disneyland Japan and tried to introduce his son to pop culture from the West. He could have changed the country SO MUCH!!
RE: Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong
And that's exactly why he won't be the next ruler. He actually fled the country in hate of his father.
Akamu54 said:I was kinda hoping that his eldest son (whose name I can't remember right now
And that's exactly why he won't be the next ruler. He actually fled the country in hate of his father.
Um, ok. I'm half-Korean, (Mom is), and she is rejoicing. The South despised that man. Kim Jong Ill, (as in sick), was an arrogant and ignorant man. He had seventeen palaces. He starved his people. He twisted his country. Why does no one want to trade with North Korea? Because no one likes him.
Just wanted to bring this up, (I can't remember this exactly), but after North Korea lost in the World Cup a couple years back, he put the team and the coach on a press conference that lasted hours and asked why they were publicly embarrassed his country. The coach was then accused for betraying the country and forced to work as a laborer. WHO DOES THIS!?
Just wanted to bring this up, (I can't remember this exactly), but after North Korea lost in the World Cup a couple years back, he put the team and the coach on a press conference that lasted hours and asked why they were publicly embarrassed his country. The coach was then accused for betraying the country and forced to work as a laborer. WHO DOES THIS!?
Hoo boy.
Yeah, pretty much everyone should watch documentaries and stuff about North Korea and Kim Jong Il, and his father, who was no different. (was Kim Il Sung the name?) Kim Jong Il's funeral was the same as his father's. Now there's a third one... Those leaders are just criminal. They will actually put someone in a labor camp for listening to non-North Korean music!
Yeah, pretty much everyone should watch documentaries and stuff about North Korea and Kim Jong Il, and his father, who was no different. (was Kim Il Sung the name?) Kim Jong Il's funeral was the same as his father's. Now there's a third one... Those leaders are just criminal. They will actually put someone in a labor camp for listening to non-North Korean music!
^ This.
I watched a few of those documentaries on both people. They both were pretty gruesome and the stories were sad and downright crazy.
I say we're just waiting to see what happens. And I say brace yoursleves and prepare for anything. ANYTHING. We've already got issues on our hands and I feel this doesnt help at all. But you know what, it can't be undone so just, well, let's hope this doesnt turn into any WWIII.
I'd always thought that WWIII would be caused by killer robots and aliens, which seemed so far off that I didn't worry about it. But now it seems closer than ever.
I watched a few of those documentaries on both people. They both were pretty gruesome and the stories were sad and downright crazy.
I say we're just waiting to see what happens. And I say brace yoursleves and prepare for anything. ANYTHING. We've already got issues on our hands and I feel this doesnt help at all. But you know what, it can't be undone so just, well, let's hope this doesnt turn into any WWIII.
I'd always thought that WWIII would be caused by killer robots and aliens, which seemed so far off that I didn't worry about it. But now it seems closer than ever.
AnimeUSA said:
youd be surprised to learn that we train and do a ruckmarch 30 miles long, right NEXT to the DMZ.
if anything were to happen, it wouldve happened already. haha
It would've been funny if he was impaled on the pointy spike of a German helmet, but oh well. (Some TV show predicted the death of Kim Jong Il through a stroke in 2012. Does anyone remember what it was? That show was close with its prediction!)
Kim Jong Il also had the world's largest pornography collection (as far as physical media goes; can't say the same digitally).
I'd like to mention that China DOES trade with North Korea though, and they do so quite often. The reason why the country even exists right now is from revenue brought in from trading with China. In return, China tries to help put a positive spin on North Korean events. It doesn't really work though, as I, and most people I know, don't really trust the Chinese government to say anything honest.
There are actually many (besides his family) in North Korea who like him and are genuinely distraught that he's gone. For instance, the military is well-fed, and so are their families (at the expense of anyone not in the military or royalty). Obedient and efficient soldiers are greatly rewarded, with wealth pretty much thrown at them. This causes them to feel grateful to Kim Jong Il.
You see the peasants portrayed as miserable and constantly living in fear, with even the slightest slip-up punishabe by death. While the latter is true, this is not how the majority of North Koreans actually feel. The media in their own country portray all other nations (except China) as being even worse. The United States is a war-hungry nation whose military leaders are executed Blofeld-style for failing. France is full of elites on the streets who like to (literally) rub their cigars on poor people's noses. The UK consists of loud, violent people who are always drunk and have no sense of personal space. Japan is ready to drop bombs at any moment and will publicly decapitate any North Koreans who enter into the country. Germany is still a Nazi dictatorship. And all other countries have politicians who just kick people around for fun. Basically, North Koreans read newspapers (if they're literate), watch TV, or listen to the radio, and they hear these messages. The idea is to get them to think, "Wow! I may have it bad, but at least I have my farm." Or "At least they don't kill me for failure." Or "At least my government will protect me from foreign threats." The ones who flee the country are the ones who managed to hear about the outside world, which the North Korean government will spare no expense at trying to keep away from its populace. A lot (perhaps not most) are genuinely convinced they're living in a great country with a great leader and do feel sad that Kim Jong Il is dead.
(That's also why you haven't seen an uprising in North Korea the way you see in other countries with oppressive dictatorships like Iraq or Syria.)
Serperior said:
Kim Jong Il also had the world's largest pornography collection (as far as physical media goes; can't say the same digitally).
I'd like to mention that China DOES trade with North Korea though, and they do so quite often. The reason why the country even exists right now is from revenue brought in from trading with China. In return, China tries to help put a positive spin on North Korean events. It doesn't really work though, as I, and most people I know, don't really trust the Chinese government to say anything honest.
GREENMONKEYDUMP said:
There are actually many (besides his family) in North Korea who like him and are genuinely distraught that he's gone. For instance, the military is well-fed, and so are their families (at the expense of anyone not in the military or royalty). Obedient and efficient soldiers are greatly rewarded, with wealth pretty much thrown at them. This causes them to feel grateful to Kim Jong Il.
You see the peasants portrayed as miserable and constantly living in fear, with even the slightest slip-up punishabe by death. While the latter is true, this is not how the majority of North Koreans actually feel. The media in their own country portray all other nations (except China) as being even worse. The United States is a war-hungry nation whose military leaders are executed Blofeld-style for failing. France is full of elites on the streets who like to (literally) rub their cigars on poor people's noses. The UK consists of loud, violent people who are always drunk and have no sense of personal space. Japan is ready to drop bombs at any moment and will publicly decapitate any North Koreans who enter into the country. Germany is still a Nazi dictatorship. And all other countries have politicians who just kick people around for fun. Basically, North Koreans read newspapers (if they're literate), watch TV, or listen to the radio, and they hear these messages. The idea is to get them to think, "Wow! I may have it bad, but at least I have my farm." Or "At least they don't kill me for failure." Or "At least my government will protect me from foreign threats." The ones who flee the country are the ones who managed to hear about the outside world, which the North Korean government will spare no expense at trying to keep away from its populace. A lot (perhaps not most) are genuinely convinced they're living in a great country with a great leader and do feel sad that Kim Jong Il is dead.
(That's also why you haven't seen an uprising in North Korea the way you see in other countries with oppressive dictatorships like Iraq or Syria.)
RE: Death of North Korean Leader Kim Jong
Not gonna get into a political argument, but I'm just gonna say I heavily disagree with you here. You don't bomb and invade a country because they "might" have nuclear weapons. That's what happened to Iraq, and look:
[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs[/video]
Who made the US police of the world? Nobody. Stay out of other countries' business.
On topic, Kim Jong Il was a crazy man, and he's brainwashed plenty of his citizens into thinking he's a hero. Where his son will take the country, we don't know, but we can hope for the best.
Card Slinger J said:
Not gonna get into a political argument, but I'm just gonna say I heavily disagree with you here. You don't bomb and invade a country because they "might" have nuclear weapons. That's what happened to Iraq, and look:
[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs[/video]
Who made the US police of the world? Nobody. Stay out of other countries' business.
On topic, Kim Jong Il was a crazy man, and he's brainwashed plenty of his citizens into thinking he's a hero. Where his son will take the country, we don't know, but we can hope for the best.
I'm very pleased with the death of Kim Jong Il. The best possible scenario is that North Korea will now lose Chinese support, and then to attack South Korea. This would lead to the USA and South Korea crushing the North Koreans in war, and establishing only a single Korea under the democratic South Korean governmental system. Also, that would force U.S. leaders to pull troops out of Afghanistan and put them in Korea.
