Deck Rotations and the Effect on Decks

olimar1023 said:
I never told you what to play, I just said what I was gonna play.
Go ahead and play Darkrai EX, but it will lose to Straight Terrikion, so maybe use Tornadus or Tornadus EX to counter it.

I never said you told me to do that. I actually might run Tornadus or Tornadus EX. Thank you for that tip.
 
olimar1023 said:
^ both CMT and ReshiPhlosion get rotated out.

Read my first few sentences, when I say Durant is dead when DE comes out. I didn't mention anything about the rotation, but obviously Durant is dead by then.
 
EliGagerNorris said:
Read my first few sentences, when I say Durant is dead when DE comes out. I didn't mention anything about the rotation, but obviously Durant is dead by then.

Why would Durant be dead when DE comes out? The only new deck that should arrive is Darkrai.dek and Dark Toolbox. They both have no energy acceleration, so you can just Lost Remover/Crushing Hammer all their energy.

No one is going to play Heatmor, unless they have a really bad matchup against Durant.
 
alexmf2 said:
Why would Durant be dead when DE comes out? The only new deck that should arrive is Darkrai.dek and Dark Toolbox. They both have no energy acceleration, so you can just Lost Remover/Crushing Hammer all their energy.

No one is going to play Heatmor, unless they have a really bad matchup against Durant.
Why would no one play Heatmor? It only takes 1 colorless energy to OHKO a Durant. Using this card could be the difference between losing and winning against Durant. No one really prepares to fight Durant any more, just Mewtwo EX, which is how I lost a few games at States. It would be too easy to throw this one card in a deck and have an insta win against Durant, Its much more effective then even ReshiBoar because it only takes 1 energy. Then after some time Durant wouldnt be used then we could stop playing Heatmor, until then I know at least I will be teching a Heatmor in any deck thats not Straight Terrikion, even my fire type decks.
 
Because people just don't have the space. Even though it's just one card, you could use that space for something much more important.
 
alexmf2 said:
Because people just don't have the space. Even though it's just one card, you could use that space for something much more important.

Like what? I think this card is improtant enough since having just 1 in a deck can instantly win against Durant. If you fight Durant then as long as you have 1 Heatmor in your deck and are able to get it out then you just take a prize every turn.
 
It's just such a dead weight in every other matchup. I would only use it in decks with a very bad Durant matchup.
 
EliGagerNorris said:
Read my first few sentences, when I say Durant is dead when DE comes out. I didn't mention anything about the rotation, but obviously Durant is dead by then.
I'd like to add one thing to what you said.

You do bring up extremely valid points about what will happen to Durant upon DE's release. Durant will probably experience a very sharp decline in play due to what you just mentioned. However, someone I know brought up a very interesting point - the best time to play Durant is when everyone thinks it's dead.

So probably sometime after rotation, or whenever, when no one pays heed to Durant anymore as it's all but vanished, someone is going to perfect a Durant build and do amazingly with it. But yeah, it's still going to be in the minority.

Just an interesting thought. Now since this isn't a Durant topic, I'm going to step back for now from this discussion.
 
Deus: Nightmare Autarch said:
I'd like to add one thing to what you said.

You do bring up extremely valid points about what will happen to Durant upon DE's release. Durant will probably experience a very sharp decline in play due to what you just mentioned. However, someone I know brought up a very interesting point - the best time to play Durant is when everyone thinks it's dead.

So probably sometime after rotation, or whenever, when no one pays heed to Durant anymore as it's all but vanished, someone is going to perfect a Durant build and do amazingly with it. But yeah, it's still going to be in the minority.

Just an interesting thought. Now since this isn't a Durant topic, I'm going to step back for now from this discussion.

Yeah I get what you mean, fighting something that you never expected because its dead could beat you easily. But we lose a few of the main trainers that Durant uses like Junk Arm, and we also lose Sp. Metal energy.
Anyway, what about Six Corners? Does that deck stand a chance after rotation?
 
alexmf2 said:
Why would Durant be dead when DE comes out? The only new deck that should arrive is Darkrai.dek and Dark Toolbox. They both have no energy acceleration, so you can just Lost Remover/Crushing Hammer all their energy.

No one is going to play Heatmor, unless they have a really bad matchup against Durant.

What decks are those???
 
pokemonmbl said:
What decks are those???

Some of those decks are VVV (I've smashed all of them with Durant), actually mmost water decks fill this catergory. Straight terrakion might want it.
 
Blui129 said:
Some of those decks are VVV (I've smashed all of them with Durant), actually mmost water decks fill this catergory. Straight terrakion might want it.

VVV gets rotated, and so do water decks because we lose Feraligtr prime and Flotzel/Shaymin to excelerate energy. Straight Terrikion is called Straight Terrikion because it uses only Terrikion.
 
Once again, this is after DE gets released, not after the rotation. And straight Terrakion can add Heatmor if it wants, your reasoning is flawed.
 
EliGagerNorris said:
Once again, this is after DE gets released, not after the rotation. And straight Terrakion can add Heatmor if it wants, your reasoning is flawed.

This whole thread is about after rotation not after DE gets realeased.
My reasoning isnt flawed, its an opionion, if you dont like it thats fine.
 
The thread is about the rotation, but his scenario was after DE was released.

Your reasoning that Tetrakion can't add a Heatmor is that Tetrakion only runs Terrakion, so it can't add a Heatmor. I don't see the reasoning behind it.
 
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