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RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

HoOhLugia said:
I don't think Delta Emerald will be released because there was only one remake (sorry if my point is hard to understand).
There was no remake of Yellow or Crystal after the remakes of their other original copies, so Delta Emerald might not be real.
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It's not the same. There are no differences between the story of Red, Blue and Green (so FR/LG didn't need to cover for two stories), and Yellow was a unique game that tried to make you feel as Ash as possible. HG/SS are more like Crystal remakes than Gold's or Silver's; they're basically what Crystal should have been. However, the stories of Ruby and Sapphire are incomplete compared to that of Emerald, so technically a Gen III remake that uses the whole story needs to be an Emerald remake.
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

Chaos Jackal said:
HoOhLugia said:
I don't think Delta Emerald will be released because there was only one remake (sorry if my point is hard to understand).
There was no remake of Yellow or Crystal after the remakes of their other original copies, so Delta Emerald might not be real.
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It's not the same. There are no differences between the story of Red, Blue and Green (so FR/LG didn't need to cover for two stories), and Yellow was a unique game that tried to make you feel as Ash as possible. HG/SS are more like Crystal remakes than Gold's or Silver's; they're basically what Crystal should have been. However, the stories of Ruby and Sapphire are incomplete compared to that of Emerald, so technically a Gen III remake that uses the whole story needs to be an Emerald remake.
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I think that Emerald remake would be for Alpha Sapphire and Omega Ruby because you mentioned that Heart Gold and Soul Silver were possibally remakes of Crystal.
Sorry I made my point quite hard to understand... But you may be more correct than me.
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

From what we know until now, OR/AS seem to follow the plot of Ruby and Sapphire. Ruby and Sapphire each carry less than half the plot of Emerald.
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

Chaos Jackal said:
From what we know until now, OR/AS seem to follow the plot of Ruby and Sapphire. Ruby and Sapphire each carry less than half the plot of Emerald.
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Emerald in my mind is just about settling it between Maxie and Archie once and for all. If there was ever going to be a 'Delta Emerald', it should have a new team trying to awaken rayquaza and eliminate the weather for good.
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

That is a completely new idea and plot, which is even more unlikely than an Emerald remake. In anime, manga and Emerald, Rayquaza is shown to be a Pokemon unknown to the majority of people, uncontrollable, unreachable, without even an orb to use against it (the manga suggests that an orb was made, but failed, and Norman died after controlling Rayquaza without an orb). Having a whole organization look for it and worse yet, making them try to control it goes against Rayquaza's past image.
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

^There's the Jade Orb in HGSS... Not sure if it counts, but still...
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

Metalizard said:
^There's the Jade Orb in HGSS... Not sure if it counts, but still...
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I always thought that only summoned Rayquaza, but didn't grant the holder any sort of power over it (as opposed to Archie/Maxie controlling Kyogre/Groudon with the Red/Blue Orbs).

I mean... its not totally unthinkable that it could be brought back as an item in the same vein as the Red/Blue Orbs with another team that wants to control Rayquaza.

I personally think Rayquaza is best left as the 'third legendary no one really talks about' (ala Giratina/Kyurem/Zygarde) but when it needs to it can come and be a powerful force. Making it like every other version mascot (team wants legendary to get their way) would take that away.

I personally would love to see them do something completely radical with a Delta Emerald - now we're getting remakes for R/S it means that they don't have many limitations making it (not like if they were only releasing Delta Emerald and no ORAS) and it would be awesome seeing them go completely outrageous with it.

I do kinda expect a Primal Rayquaza since it kinda makes sense that Rayquaza does have some badass ancient forme to be able to realistically counter Primal Groudon/Kyogre. (in terms of the story, not competitively) Whether the item is the Jade Orb making a reappearance or a brand new item is the question.
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

I'm still thinking that, if there's no Delta Emerald game, they may do 2 primal versions of Rayquaza, one for Alpha, one for Omega, like Mewtwo and Charizard in XY (because it's popular) and like Kyurem in BW2 (because it's a third legendary and the boss of the trio)... Not that it makes much sense concept-wise but they kinda pull those things often...
 
RE: Delta Emerald [Unconfirmed Game] - Hopes and Expectations

My guess is it's just a trademark. I will laugh if it's real, but I highly doubt that they'd really go on for a chance to destroy the hype for Pokemon OR/AS...I'd find it really hilarious if they created all of the games they trademarked...
 
First off, hello everyone once again. Sorry, if I haven't been around for a LONG time, but I was just occupied with a lot of things for a few months, and still am, but the load has lightened.

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Anyways, on topic.

If Delta Emerald were actually a true game and the first remake of a third version that normally comes after the two paired versions that we get each generation, I think its more likely that this "Delta Emerald" will rather be a sequel to the remakes of OmegaRuby & AlphaSapphire. I mean...GF already did the unusual with Black & White, introducing sequels to those versions instead of the expected "Pokémon Gray" so there is a low chance (again if the game is true....) that Delta Emerald will continue that trend.

In a way, it makes more sense, because why announce remakes of the 3rd Gen Pokémon Games, only to have it overshadowed by a possible remake of the third, most complete version that commonly follows after the usual pair of Pokémon versions? Like someone said eariler in this topic - Sales would hurt the R&S remakes, although how much I don't know.

In fact, any smart guy or girl would just straight up ignore the two 3rd Gen remakes and go for the Emerald version instead. I know I would.

Then again, we don't know what the 3rd Gen games will bring more to the table, aside expected features like Mega Evolutions, and possibly, Battle rematches with Gym Leaders, Elite Four and the Champion. I personally hope that the titular Legendaries can be caught both in one version similar to HeartGold and SoulSliver, yet the two versions each have exclusive lists of different Mega Stones/Mega Evolutions and Pokémon that you can capture depending on the version you have. Gamefreak did the latter with X & Y, so its likely they will do this again.

However, the idea of each version having access to catch both Legends (as I prefer much more) is a very low chance of happening due to the villain teams already being confirmed as exclusive to either version, so I'm not betting on this myself heavily despite me preferring both Legends in one game.

We will just have to see what the Gen 3 Remakes will end up giving us once they're released and more information has been revealed.;)
 
G-Panthera said:
First off, hello everyone once again. Sorry, if I haven't been around for a LONG time, but I was just occupied with a lot of things for a few months, and still am, but the load has lightened.

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Anyways, on topic.

If Delta Emerald were actually a true game and the first remake of a third version that normally comes after the two paired versions that we get each generation, I think its more likely that this "Delta Emerald" will rather be a sequel to the remakes of OmegaRuby & AlphaSapphire. I mean...GF already did the unusual with Black & White, introducing sequels to those versions instead of the expected "Pokémon Gray" so there is a low chance (again if the game is true....) that Delta Emerald will continue that trend.

In a way, it makes more sense, because why announce remakes of the 3rd Gen Pokémon Games, only to have it overshadowed by a possible remake of the third, most complete version that commonly follows after the usual pair of Pokémon versions? Like someone said eariler in this topic - Sales would hurt the R&S remakes, although how much I don't know.

In fact, any smart guy or girl would just straight up ignore the two 3rd Gen remakes and go for the Emerald version instead. I know I would.
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I think that the only way they'd avoid that with a possible Delta Emerald is if it was drastically different from ORAS... they'd have the much sought-after R/S remakes out the way so they could really do something completely different with Delta Emerald.

I personally don't think much will come of this, and they're just covering their bases by trademarking the name (ala WaterBlue & Pokemon Grey), but if it does turn out to be true I can see a lot of fans be annoyed by the reasons you said... I mean if they hyped up ORAS then said a few months after their release that they were remaking Emerald in the same vein as ORAS people would definitely be annoyed... I know I would.
Making it as a sequel to ORAS would be a good option... it would give them a reason to expand the storyline (although I can't see the basic plot be much different from original Emerald... I imagine it would be something along the lines of "Archie/Maxie try using Kyogre/Groudon again and Rayquaza stops them, except with a slightly updated Hoenn).

We have never seen a 3rd version remake before though... HGSS took elements from Crystal with Suicune, but since that fitted nicely as an on-the-side thing it didn't make too much of an impact on the story, whereas if they did that with Emerald it would be impossible without making Rayquaza the show-stopper in the climax... it would be more like making Emerald Minus Team Aqua and Emerald Minus Team Magma xD
 
His Goominess said:
G-Panthera said:
First off, hello everyone once again. Sorry, if I haven't been around for a LONG time, but I was just occupied with a lot of things for a few months, and still am, but the load has lightened.

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Anyways, on topic.

If Delta Emerald were actually a true game and the first remake of a third version that normally comes after the two paired versions that we get each generation, I think its more likely that this "Delta Emerald" will rather be a sequel to the remakes of OmegaRuby & AlphaSapphire. I mean...GF already did the unusual with Black & White, introducing sequels to those versions instead of the expected "Pokémon Gray" so there is a low chance (again if the game is true....) that Delta Emerald will continue that trend.

In a way, it makes more sense, because why announce remakes of the 3rd Gen Pokémon Games, only to have it overshadowed by a possible remake of the third, most complete version that commonly follows after the usual pair of Pokémon versions? Like someone said eariler in this topic - Sales would hurt the R&S remakes, although how much I don't know.

In fact, any smart guy or girl would just straight up ignore the two 3rd Gen remakes and go for the Emerald version instead. I know I would.
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I think that the only way they'd avoid that with a possible Delta Emerald is if it was drastically different from ORAS... they'd have the much sought-after R/S remakes out the way so they could really do something completely different with Delta Emerald.

I personally don't think much will come of this, and they're just covering their bases by trademarking the name (ala WaterBlue & Pokemon Grey), but if it does turn out to be true I can see a lot of fans be annoyed by the reasons you said... I mean if they hyped up ORAS then said a few months after their release that they were remaking Emerald in the same vein as ORAS people would definitely be annoyed... I know I would.
Making it as a sequel to ORAS would be a good option... it would give them a reason to expand the storyline (although I can't see the basic plot be much different from original Emerald... I imagine it would be something along the lines of "Archie/Maxie try using Kyogre/Groudon again and Rayquaza stops them, except with a slightly updated Hoenn).

We have never seen a 3rd version remake before though... HGSS took elements from Crystal with Suicune, but since that fitted nicely as an on-the-side thing it didn't make too much of an impact on the story, whereas if they did that with Emerald it would be impossible without making Rayquaza the show-stopper in the climax... it would be more like making Emerald Minus Team Aqua and Emerald Minus Team Magma xD
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That is basically the only way...if Delta Emerald were real and went the way with Black & White's sequel method, even though it has to be drastically different from ORAS, as just having a slightly updated Hoenn will still have people think "why buy ORAS, if I can buy Delta Emerald instead?" And yes, it would be highly annoying to people if GF would release Delta Emerald that is basically just a copy & paste of ORAS, only with Rayquaza's "primal form" being the star of the game.

Likely yes...Delta Emerald is just a trademark to cover their bases. We don't know much about ORAS yet, so maybe they did do some features of Emerald into these games, but I'm not putting my hopes on this.
 
ORAS sequel/Emerald hybrid.

I know I'm just going to be disappoiinted, but this idea is too perfect to let go now ):

It fixes both crucial issues I have with ORAS:
-being carbon copy remakes with extras YET AGAIN (if a sequel with sufficient amount of changes to justify making it on top of ORAS comes out, it makes up for all of it and is even better than just ORAS being slightly fresh takes on RS (which they aren't))
-telling the incomplete and odd plot of RS, leaving these games as a half assed remake set for sake of milking nostalgia (whereas a sequel remake hybrid again makes sense of it and has potential to top the original)

But I don't see how they would handle the villains behavior if it really was not a parallel story but a continuation...since Maxie/Archie already awakened the first mascot once.. nah, the only proper option is a parallel but fresh take on Emerald... :/

gamefreak, whatever they are doing here, I just hope they do surprise us in some way with all this. Anything but only an incomplete set of remakes by the end of the generation...
 
It might not be a videogame or even a TCG expansion/set/whatever it's named but it's this trademark, along with the looks that AS/OR will be a 99% copy & paste of S/R, namely the games' story, that stopped me from buying one of them when they get released! Even if Delta Emerald turns out to be true but also another copy & paste of E, I'll still buy DE and not AS!
 
I don't think taking the copy/paste approach increases the chances of DE, if anything, I think it decreases them. I think the reason they're copy/pasting ORAS mainly has to do with time constraints, I think Nintendo may have pressured them into releasing it in 2014 to help improve sales. Or maybe Game Freak wasn't enthusiastic about the game to begin with and this is just a nostalgic cash grab. At any rate, I'm fairly certain they have no plans on making DE, if they can't even handle ORAS without making them copy/pastes, what makes you think they have room for an extra game?
 
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